The Next Democratic Presidential Candidate?

Lets start with Free Speech....or do you recall Free Speech "Zones" prior to a Bush Presidency?

And, yet, here you are calling for the death of that same President here on the ol' internet with no Secret Service agents knocking on your door. Try that in China see what happens.

-Kiamat Dusk

The name is spelled Brianna. I can't help it if she spells it wrong.

It is of Irish, Gaelic and Celtic origin, and its meaning is "high, noble, exalted." May also possibly mean "strong." A contemporary feminine form of Brian, found occasionally in England since the 16th century. See also Brionna.

Sooooo are you gonna start a crusade to get urban b;ack parents to start spelling their children's names correctly, too? We could post you in the maternity ward and have you spell check all the birth certificates. Sheesh. Now who is curbing freedoms?

-Kiamat Dusk

This always makes me laugh. I shouldn't HAVE to compare the USA with China!

I'm amazed at how willing people like you are to throw away what our founding fathers fought so hard for during the American Revolution.

You would have no doubt been a loyalist torie.

I'd have stood with the patriot rebels.

wow --thats pretty racist of you.

The fact that you can say the things you do in a public forum like this prove that your accusation that the President has taken away your freedom of speech is false.

Simple enough for ya?

-Kiamat Dusk

But.....awwwwww nevermind.

-Kiamat Dusk

So in your opinion all free speech has to be gone to say the President is working hard at taking away free speech? Isn't that like putting out a fire after the house is burned down?

I would think you'd both at least admit that he has acted in a facist way and certainly has shown very little respect to the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Due Process.

If you and Briana really think Bush is honest and not corrupt and doing the right things for this country, then you are very adept at ignoring whole lists of facts and easily recognized behavioral signs.

Even a large percentage of die-hard neo-cons have finally admitted he's a crappy president, and is about as dishonest as they come.

But you keep on keeping on. President Bush has done one right thing in his entire time in office. He's made alot of folks, by his actions, wake up to just how rotten-to-the-core many Republican politicians are, and he's given the somewhat weak and disorganized democratic party a nice boost. Now if they will only take advantage of what's been handed to them...

Democrats Vow Not To Give Up Hopelessness

February 27, 2006 | Issue 42•09

WASHINGTON, DC—In a press conference on the steps of the Capitol Monday, Congressional Democrats announced that, despite the scandals plaguing the Republican Party and widespread calls for change in Washington, their party will remain true to its hopeless direction.

"We are entirely capable of bungling this opportunity to regain control of the House and Senate and the trust of the American people," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said to scattered applause. "It will take some doing, but we're in this for the long and pointless haul."

"We can lose this," Reid added. "All it takes is a little lack of backbone."

Despite plummeting poll numbers for the G.O.P nationwide and an upcoming election in which all House seats and 33 Senate seats are up for contention, Democrats pledged to maintain their party's sheepish resignation.

"In times like these, when the American public is palpably dismayed with the political status quo, it is crucial that Democrats remain unfocused and defer to the larger, smarter, and better-equipped Republican machine," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said. "If we play our cards right, we will be intimidated to the point of total paralysis."

Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) cited the Bush Administration's bungled response to Hurricane Katrina as a model for Democrats.

"Grandmothers drowning in nursing homes, families losing everything, communities torn apart—and the ruling party just sat and watched," Lieberman said. "I'm here to promise that we Democrats will find a way to let you down just like that."

According to Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Democrats are not willing to sacrifice their core values—indecision, incoherence, and disorganization—for the sake of short-term electoral gain.

"Don't lose faithlessness, Democrats," Kennedy said. "The next election is ours to lose. To those who say we can't, I say: Remember Michael Dukakis. Remember Al Gore. Remember John Kerry."

Kennedy said that, even if the Democrats were to regain the upper hand in the midterm elections, they would still need to agree on a platform and chart a legislative agenda—an obstacle he called "insurmountable."

"Universal health care, the war in Iraq, civil liberties, a living wage, gun control—we're not even close to a consensus within our own ranks," Kennedy said. "And even if we were, we wouldn't know how to implement that consensus."

"Some rising stars with leadership potential like [Sen. Barack] Obama (D-IL) and [New York State Attorney General Eliot] Spitzer have emerged, but don't worry: We've still got some infight left in us," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said. "Over the last decade, we've found a reliably losing formula, and we're sticking with it."

Dean reminded Democratic candidates to "stay on our unclear message, maintain a defensive, reactive posture, and keep an elitist distance from voters."

Political consultant and Democratic operative James Carville said that, if properly disseminated, the message of hopelessness could be the Democrats' most effective in more than a decade.

"For the first time in a long time, we're really connecting with the American people, who are also feeling hopeless," Carville said. "If we can harness that and run on it in '06, I believe we can finish a strong second."
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/45793/print/


-Kiamat Dusk

It is my opinion that the Liberals in this country have become so enraged by the constant reminder of their irrelevance to the national debate that they have completely divorced themselves from reason and fact and have retreated to rhetoric and baseless accusations. You have no idea what is going on because you get your information from the same outlets that brought us Memogate and for that same reason you have zero credibility.

In the same breath that you call Bush an imbecile you swear that he is some diabolical mastermind trying to take over the world. You don't make sense. The Liberal argument has devolved into rabid vitriol.

As has been demonstrated time and again in these forums, the only thing the SLeft knows how to do is condemn and shout down all the while never offering any concrete alternative solutions.

All the Left has anymore is hate and negativity and the Big Bush Bogeyman.

-Kiamat Dusk

This is true of both the Left and the Right.

Google returns 4,280,000 "Briana" results.

ALOT of us spell it with one "n".

Is that all you got, you wanna be? :

Briana Dawson

Google returns 4,280,000 "Briana" results.

Google returns 3,960,000 "BriaNNa" results.

ALOT of us spell it with one "n".

Is that all you got, you wanna be? :

Briana Dawson

why do you make up numbers?

7,590,000 for brianna
7,750,000 for briana

haha --I'm 90,000 more better!

Uhm, i used "" around the name... duh.

Briana Dawson

baseless accusations??? I take it you live in a cave somewhere? Calling the hundreds of accusations baseless is a bit..well...out there..



I don't think he's anything other than a puppet for corporate america, well..and incredibly corrupt and dishonest. I don't think he's a very bright bulb, but a president could still do a pretty good job even without being overly smart, if he was trying to do the right thing for the American people. Bush is simply doing the right thing for greedy, power-hungry corporations, and himself of course.

As far as rabid goes, I guess you haven't listened to political rhetoric for too long, since Republicans are masters at it. They have always been trash talkers, smearers and Bush is THE spin and distract and mislead President.

The Liberal arguement has been, and continues to be, one of common sense for the most part. And thus far, the liberals have been right on target and proven right again and again as more and more lies and deceptions and scandals and corruption is uncovered.

It's a simple and ridiculous way of arguing to call anything negative found out (and proven with documents and testimony) just those damn liberals being rabid and spouting baseless accusations.

Talk about living in denial...



Yes..you are pretty guilty of that, but perhaps you can change your ways. There is still time.



Naw..Karl Rove is on your side, not ours. You need to keep your parties straight.

-The number of accusations does not equate to veracity of those accusations.




-And we're all waiting with bated breath to hear what all these "common sense" approaches are. Do you mean surrender...sorry-uliateral withdrawal"-in Iraq, or Hillary's "redistribution of wealth idea, or socialized healthcare cuz that's working so well in Canada and Europe, maybe the diplomacy that has saved so many lives from genocide in Darfur...oops...can't call the slaughter of tens of thousands "genocide"...but you get the idea. Iran wants to go nuclear, and by the way, wants to wipe Isreal off the map...what's your common sense plan for that? China is planning on drilling for oil 45 miles off the coast of Florida. Have you seen *their* environmental record!? What's your plan for that?

Thus far the plan of the Democratic party and of most of the hard Left in this country can be summed up as "Blame Bush". But that doesn't solve anything.

-Kiamat Dusk

Kiamat if you have ever read any of my replies then you have to admit that this entire post is not correct.

Entirely incorrect or not entirely correct?

-Kiamat Dusk

yes. That trope is often used by the right wing. It's not really true you know.

trope
n.

1. A figure of speech using words in nonliteral ways, such as a metaphor.
2. A word or phrase interpolated as an embellishment in the sung parts of certain medieval liturgies.


I'm not sure, but I don't think either of these fit the quote.

-Kiamat Dusk

sure it does. That phrase was tattooed on your forehead by Hannity and Limbaugh.

Hmmm.....

met·a·phor (mt-fôr, -fr)
n.

1. A figure of speech in which a word or phrase that ordinarily designates one thing is used to designate another, thus making an implicit comparison, as in “a sea of troubles” or “All the world's a stage” (Shakespeare).
2. One thing conceived as representing another; a symbol: “Hollywood has always been an irresistible, prefabricated metaphor for the crass, the materialistic, the shallow, and the craven” (Neal Gabler).


No, it's not a metaphor. Lessee....liturgy....

lit·ur·gy

1. A prescribed form or set of forms for public religious worship.

Ummm...no. Wasn't a liturgy either. Oh, I know! Maybe you meant this:

tripe
n.

1. [snip]
2. Informal. Something of no value; rubbish.

While I'd have to disagree with you, at least it would make some sense. Boy, that public school education is really paying dividends isn't it, Kendra?


-Kiamat Dusk

And let me guess. In your opinion, evidence backing up the accusations, and the administration even admitting to some of them doesn't verify them in your mind either? Do you watch any news programs (other than Fox News), or read any papers?






Umm..Bush wants OUR oil companies to drill 45 miles off the Florida coast, and have you seen their environmental record?? My plan would be to start full-scale funding of alternate energy sources and funnel all of this money spent on supporting wars for oil and benefiting oil companies into alternate sources. Then the whole oil thing will be moot.

Iran wants to go nuclear. Let them. Lots of countries already have that are just as nutty, ours included. They would know it would mean instant and total destruction if they ever used one, and if they want nuclear warheads bad enough, they can buy one, probably from ebay these days. You will realize, if you think about it, what we are really interested in in Iran is that yummy old black gold..texas tea...oil..

We are NOT the world's keeper. We do have a thing called the United Nations. Let them go to work for a while.
Iran has been spouting off for as long as I've been alive, which is quite some time.

As far a socializing healthcare. yes..it's working a better in Canada than our system is working in the U.S. Those that have corporate healthcare plans through HMO's get crappy health care in the U.S., and there are tons of folks that have NO health care. So yes, I'd take Canada's system over ours any day of the week.

As far as redistribution of wealth goes, I say quit making it far easier for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer. Give the folks that are hurting and suffering some help, and let those that can and do take care of themselves just fine, do so. Give tax breaks to the poor, not the rich.


Ok. Some common sense suggestions from a liberal:

1. Tell the American people the truth about why a war is needed, not just the information that supports your case. The entire truth. Don't lie about them and suppress facts.

2. Use and exhaust all other methods of solving conflicts before going to war.

3. If you HAVE to go to war, go to war in places that will help the most innocent civilians, not the most oil company and Halliburton CEO's. There's plenthy of countries suffering and some real genocides going on. But of course, those countries don't have oil...

4. Blame Bush for what Bush is at fault for. Don't blame him for things he's not at fault for. The buck does stop at the President supposedly.

5. Use Due Process, allow human rights, allow legal representation, don't sink to, or below, the level of "evil dictators" and call it doing the right thing.

6. Don't fight every investigation that comes your way if you have nothing to hide.

7. Don't hire an evil sociopath for your Chief Advisor.

8. Don't allow no bid contract after no bid contract to get awarded to a company that the vice president recieves dividends from. It reall is a conflict of interest and appears really corrupt, and is really against the set rules of conduct for those cases.

9. Don't intentional lie in almost every speech you give to the American people. The examples are too numerous to name off here, but easily found if you look. (African-Iraqi uranuim, Iraq involved in 9/11, Didn't have anything to do with Mission Accomplished Banner, Didn't leak..opps..declassify any information, No one in this administration had anything to do with this, that or the other thing, etc..etc..etc).

10. If you have a real reason to tap a phone, then get a court order.

11. Don't start threatening the press for reporting news and/or facts.

12. Stop taking money from huge energy companies. And don't block investigations into them, or lie about them, or have top-secret meetings with them.

13. There are plenty of alternate energy sources out there. Use them.

14. Don't use fear to govern. use honesty, respect and decency.

15. If you are going to force schools to adopt a lame and ridiculous set of requirements, actually fund them instead of just pretending to, and using it for speech purposes.

16. Don't bankrupt the country, and don't shuffle the burden off on our children's children.

17. Quit giving the richest 1% of the country the biggest tax breaks.

18. Learn how to talk and hire better speech writers.

19. Don't advertise giving corporate america more money as "Saving Social Security".

20. Save Social Security by funneling some of the billions you are wasting in Iraq (for the benefit of certain corporations) into Social Security. Taxing energy companies, fining pollutors and taking away tax breaks from folks that have more money than they can ever spend would also be ways of helping save it.

21. Making health care more expensive and calling it your plan to make it "affordable" is a bit nuts.

22. Don't have secret prisons and don't allow torture and quit acting like Nazis.

23. Don't dismiss the entire scientific community. Those are some smart guys, and usually worth listening to.

24. Stop breaking, dismissing or ignoring every treaty and international agreement we've ever worked hard to put into place. Most of the time they actually serve good purposes and are for the betterment of the world, even if they do cause some energy company CEOs to only make $100 billion a year instead of $200 billion.

Anyway, there's a few...but the list is almost endless.



Well..there's soooo much to blame Bush for, and he makes it so easy. But I think we also spread it around to congress, Cheney, Rove..Rice..Exxon..etc. Throwing him in prison for his crimes, along with any other political crooks (republican and democrat alike) would certainly be a good step toward helping solve some problems.