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Max Case
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Join date: 23 Dec 2004
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01-07-2006 00:19
Do you have a copy of "Use of Weapons" I can borrow? I've been looking at stores for years and ordering books on the internet seems weird. Yes. I have it with me actually. email me and I'll pass it over. It was the first Banks book I bought actually. and thanks for the marain ref. I think when I have some free time I may work on an SL xlator for it :> _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
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01-07-2006 00:46
Yes. I have it with me actually. email me and I'll pass it over. It was the first Banks book I bought actually. and thanks for the marain ref. I think when I have some free time I may work on an SL xlator for it :> The only reason I even know of Banks is that a mentor of mine recommended that I read Use of Weapons after I read Simmons' Hyperion. Read the latter, but damned if I couldn't find the former to thumb through it. _____________________
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Max Case
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01-07-2006 01:03
Dunno about Hyperion. I was never able to get into that.
But with the banks Culture series, I was hooked. After I got Use of Weapons, I tore through all the rest. Lucky for me I was in the UK at the time, so I could easily buy all of his books. If you haven't read any of his stuff, maybe start with Consider Phlebas - the first in the series. Not essential to read them sequentially, but I know i always like to when possible. _____________________
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kornation Bommerang
cant spell, wont spell
Join date: 13 Jan 2005
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01-07-2006 03:24
star trek simply puts this down to universal translaters for speach
The text - while there are other types used - uses basic americanisation scripture as the federration is based in san fransisco and therefor uses that localisation as the universal - althou seeing the world try to learn german and its male/female/higher/lower etc words or even the japanese or chinese texts - american is simpler and easier to learn (various studies on languages show that to be true of written form - whereas spoken form still has problems) the extra types of lettering not truely used to much might have been dropped as the language evolved to be more simplyfied for world knowleadge - look how much the english language alone has changed in 200 years - let alone 2000 If i was to be a captian or crew member of a ship in the modern day world - wouldnt they make sure i could speak or a least read the language most commonly used aboard? ------------------------ to hazzard a guess at stargate type scifi..... for the series that uses a modern day setting with other worldly creatures - this may be down to simplified translation - what we have written down in 'us english' type may mean in guaold 'all your base are belong to us' maybe one day i will finally learn my first language properly and use proper grammer - spelling and pun.tu-a'tion _____________________
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Creami Cannoli
Please don't eat me....
Join date: 17 Jul 2005
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01-07-2006 09:04
Silly, that's because punctuation is exotic and sexy. Is'nt i't o'bviou's? Is that why some babies were named Aa'Niyah, Ce'Qwoia, Jo'El, Rach'El, A'Driannah, Cha'Nce, Ka'Ren, Se'Heira, An'Gelez, Cour'Tez, Ky'Lee, Tai'Lor, A'Ngelina, De'Liberately, Ma'Kayla, Ty'Rece, Bles'Id, God'Iss, Myr'Acle, X'Zavier, Cam'Ren, Jer'Miah, O'Livia, Zy'Eire Why do people do this to their kids? Doom them to a lifetime of people not being able to pronounce or spell their names? Your kid isn't going to grow up to be the next American Idol because you picked the spelling of their name when you were smoking crack people. (or whatever drug/drink of choice you were having) (and it's not cute either.) |
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Amber Stonecutter
Bruxing Babe
Join date: 13 Sep 2005
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01-07-2006 09:16
Is that why some babies were named... That or their parents read way too much Anne McCaffrey? |
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Ghoti Nyak
καλλιστι
Join date: 7 Aug 2004
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01-07-2006 15:32
But you nevvver see any Russian letters. You never see any umlauts. You never see any æ or Hebrew or wingdings or even a phonetic symbol like the shwa. No one ever uses  either.  -Ghoti _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
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01-07-2006 16:49
Star Trek gave us every combination of normal letters, vulcan, romulan, klingon, blingon, blingoff, etc... so these days the REALLY COOL SCI-FI THING TO DO is use apostrophes. Yeah, I'll see your M'Toth and raise you a G'Kar and a Goa'uld. Like w'tf. It's like they just discovered the friggen things!!! But you nevvver see any Russian letters. You never see any umlauts. You never see any æ or Hebrew or wingdings or even a phonetic symbol like the shwa. Well, Hebrew figures largely in this one SF story I've read titled "Seventy-two Letters", but that's because it deals with the kabbalistic holy names that empower golems being turned into a science. _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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01-07-2006 17:10
Well, Hebrew figures largely in this one SF story I've read titled "Seventy-two Letters", but that's because it deals with the kabbalistic holy names that empower golems being turned into a science.  ~Ul'rika~ _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
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01-07-2006 17:44
Interesting point Ali'asi. Like Ch'ance, I'm fascinating with unusual scifi spellings. ~Ul'rika~ fnord. _____________________
Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?”
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Chance Abattoir
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01-07-2006 18:17
fnord.  _____________________
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Rax Jessop
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Join date: 24 Dec 2005
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01-08-2006 00:48
that isn't a hebrew thing i don't what it is but it isn't hebrew
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Chance Abattoir
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01-08-2006 02:26
that isn't a hebrew thing i don't what it is but it isn't hebrew What the f- choo talkin' bout, WILLIS?!!! _____________________
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Simon Metalhead
Rock Star
Join date: 26 May 2003
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01-09-2006 17:45
I think the dark elves used apostrophes way before any aliens did <nod>
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