500,000 Mexicans & ReallyRick

How does a city take care of that many people? That is a lot of port a potties, a lot of solid waste ie garbage. What about their medical needs? Just the math makes it likely that someone will require medical attention. How about transportion, how did they all get to the asseblly area. Then there is the question of food.

heheheh

Irony:

120,000 Americans in Iraq from a shaky-legal war: evil colonialism.
11,000,000 foreign nationals in the USA illegally: "just seeking what we're entitled".

Difference: We're bombing the bejeezus out of them. The immigrants are doing all the icky manual labor that Americans seem to have grown a mass aversion to.

Double edged sword that is...Americans will do the work, but want/need more money, because living with another family (or 3-6 of them) isn't something we want to do anymore. Hell, how many of us actually KNOW our neighbors. ( I do, but have lived in neighborhoods where I didn't.)

Yes, the immigrants are doing the icky work, for pennies...which means American's get their goods cheap...or do they? What's the cost really? Pretty big I think.

I am all for immigration, but strongly against illegal aliens having jobs in america. Be legal, be welcome, get those t's crossed, and THEN be working.

Nationalism is outdated.

Yay for illegal immigrants that allow corporations to continue to get dirt cheap labor instead of paying a fair wage with benefits that could help families desperately trying to make ends meet!

I know for a fact, (first hand knowledge), that many companies will hire illegals while bypassing a large stack of actual american citizen's applications, just because they know they won't have to pay unemployment, health or other benefits.

It's not jobs that people won't take. It's jobs that corporate America prefers to keep dirt cheap.

The United States is all about immigrants. They formed this country. But there has to be laws and work visas and such in place, if for nothing else, law enforcement and fair economical trade-offs.

And, as unpopular an opinion as it might be, our national language is indeed a butchered form of English, and not spanish.

I've worked with many folks from Mexico, and found most of them to be hard working and decent folks, but things have gotten carried away.

And a huge amount of folks marching around that are in the country illegally (yes..I know some of them are also here legally) demanding equal rights doesn't really impress me or sway me to their side.

people are great and life is good. Lets enroll them all into our public schools since the kids we have in the schools now dont seem to want to do the school work we give them. It'll be great all the extra farm hands pickin oranges and lettuce. The price of veggies should go way down. I think its just great. I'm so happy. So we'll have tons of new blood in the country, sounds like we need a draft for the new Iran war. Thats right its time to fight for your new country. You want rights, you want freedom? Fight for it. Draft all the new Americans and send them to war. Who said Bush was dumb. Quite frankly its a brain storm of an idea. gg bush

omg

I wonder if they're going to try and open up those Donkey/girl shows like they have in Mexico. Won't that be great, OMG

viva las wtf ever

I say get rid of the illegals. If the children wer eborn here and are citizen, take them into state homes. let the legal citizens stay, kick out the illegals.

Yes. Airplanes, trains, cars, trucks, and global electronic communication do make it seem passe by a hundred years or so.

Austin had it's own turnout too. Will there be an SL mexican march? Or would that just crash sims?

Let's see. I'm a bit confused.


What other country, other than the US, would ALLOW a huge demonstration and have many of its own citizens actually organize and otherwise encourage thousands of illegal aliens who are self-identifying as such?

I am going to bet that someone is going to say that even suggesting that this demonstration should have been used as a "round up" by authorities, complete with buses, prosecutors and temporary customs/detention facilities at the ready is a bigoted point of view. Well, that is EXACTLY what I am suggesting should have been done.

That someone would proudly "stand up" in the forums and suggest that this demonstration, or any similar one, was justified due to "ethnic pride" or any other reason boggles my mind.

This was ILLEGAL activity by what is reported to have been MANY people. If the laws aren't enforced, what is the point of laws? If the CITIZENRY doesn't like them, then there are legal avenues for changing them - this was not one of them.

I am disappointed in the political figures where these types of parades occured for not taking action. I realize it would have been difficult to have identified citizens from illegals, perhaps. Yet, courts have ruled that random testing of drivers for DWI is legal -- random citizenship checks may have been legally justified due to the nature of the (illegal entry to the US) problem and the event itself.

FWIW, I'd say the same thing regardless of the ethnicity of the illegals involved.... That is, I have nothing against "Latinos" as a group.

I threw my asbestoswear away long ago. Flame away.

Yes you are confused.. look at your history as to what was illegal yet rallied in the streets about.

It's illegal yes... but it's millions of LIVES not illegally parked cars.

So what should the USA do now.. deport 11 million people?

Fine... but you pay for it.

Perhaps you feel that we all fail to understand how we could allow foreign people to come in, move in, and act as if this is their home.

I'll be sure to ask a Native American.

Why ask a Native American? You admit, by implication, that the issue being demonstrated about is based on the status and future of those who illegally entered and have remained in the country.

What's your justification? You deride my position without justifying your own.

Native Americans, per se, have no more "opinion status" than any other citizen of the US - notice I said citizen as many Native Americans not only are not citizens of the US but do not and never have resided in the US. Consider the descendants of the Mayas, Incas and Aztecas who remain in Latin America.... the tribes of the Amazons and lands further south.. and even the Eskimos of Canada....... All these can be considered "Native Americans" by many definitions.

And should the Native Americans you so "slyly" refer to actually BE citizens of the US, guess what? By being citizens, they have the exact same "weight" for their opinion as I do mine... one person, one vote.

Non-citizens don't get to vote... ergo, their opinions don't count.

Okay, I'll flame.

There is a world of difference between random road checks for DWI and rounding up thousands of people at a political demonstration to check their citizenship/residence status. DWI checks are legal because driving on a highway isn't a right, it's a privilege, and it's solely for public safety.

Participating in a legal political demonstration is a right. It's covered in the Bill of Rights under the "Petition the Government" clause. So, rounding up and detaining people who are exercising a legally protected right is simply unconstitutional.

I am sure, though, you would support rounding up anti-abortion demonstrators to check their legal status. They could be wanted for murdering doctors. And I'm sure you would support rounding up everyone who attends a Republican fund-raiser and checking to see if they've been bribing public officials. Maybe if you don't assume that everyone at the demonstrations is an illegal immigrant, I won't assume that pro-lifers are all violent criminals and that all Republicans are just plain criminals. Agreed?

I do have even more trouble with the following though,



What illegal activity? I'm not sure what you mean there. But the rest of your statement is simply wrong. It is a legal avenue for the citizens to petition their government for redress of grievances. Perfectly legal, absolutely protected behavior under the constitution.

Sure ok, we'll just tear apart families and permanently traumatize children. Thats the solution. And a large portion of a generation raised in state homes with no family ties and little love and affection.... that shouldn't have a detrimental impact on society at all.

I take the position that illegals within the border of the US DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to demonstrate here. They didn't earn it and were not born with that right. Citizens have the right to free speech within our borders - illegals do not.

Yes, I would separate families if that is what it takes to get illegals out of the country. I didn't ask them to come here. It was their choice to be in a position where they might be separated due to legal proceedings. They are responsible for being in that position - not any US citizen and not any local, state or Federal offical, office or other entity.

Those who are here illegally have zero sympathy from me. Call me heartless if you must. It's the way I feel.

The illegals have the chance to get their children back: become a US citizen lawfully.

Whats so hard to understand about ILLEGAL immigrant status?

Call me an ass if you want, I don't care, every illegal should be deported and every border land owner be allowed to put no trespassing signs up and defend his land!

Millions of dollars a year in losses and damages from illegals crossing the border..fences, cattle, landscaping, irrigation, pollution.. far more than if they had simply done it the LEGAL way.

Interesting. Considering that "nationalism" is an emotion-based concept, are you also "against" any other emotions?

Considering that "illegal immigration" is a human activity, are you also "against" humans?

I am against humans who are not citizens violating the law in my country. Period.

Klar?

RICK!

welcome to life in DC. it is really cool to be a part of a large-scale demonstration. regardless of the issue, it's an awesome thing to see, feel, experience, etc. glad you got to take part...and meet up with some old friends. ;P

I am against humans. Period.

Thank god I'm not one!

Kris is a Zeta-Reticulan.