News of the weird

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I just have one thing to say... WTF is wrong with that woman?

Is it not illegal for an 11 year old to have handguns in the States? I heard things were pretty loosey-goosey down there with guns but that's crazy!

No, it's (usually) illegal for an 11 yr old to have a handgun, but it does vary from state to state *sigh*

http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=pa


**EDIT** child lives in Pennsylvania, link changed to reflect that

sounds like this woman should be shot accidentally by her son. maybe that would give her the message it's not ok for 11 yr olds to have guns. now the fact that the school never had this woman charged kills me cause it just shows that they agree with the womans stupid retarded remark.
man i hope some accident happens where she or her other kids get hurt that way she smartens up and thinks twice about allowing this in her home. Lord knows i would give her a good smack in the head, take her children away from her and lock her up for being such a nutcase.
and she wants to call herself mom? pfffft

Just to contrast the Canadian experience....

Last year a woman I work with's son brought a *replica* handgun to school (fake). He was discovered with it in the hallway and immediately owned up to it being fake (it was not the best replica anyway).

As per policy, the police were called, the boy was cuffed and dragged off to the police station. He was expelled instantly and his parents made to come down to the police station to get him.

Because it was his first offense he was released and (eventually) not charged with anything. After a month of arguing and some mandatory counseling he was eventually reinstated in school. The parents got a *lot* of flak from the teachers and their neighbors and the boy smartened up considerably afterwards.

This reflects a larger issue that can be seen these days. Parents refuse to admit that children are children and most are not up to making the mature decisions. Who the heck thinks its not appropriate to parent their 11 year old child? If he wouldn't eat his brussesl sprouts, you wouldn't let him use the XBox 360 his nana gave him for Christmas.

Maybe she's afraid that if she forgets to lock one up, he'll blast her one in the arse.

10-yr old "Dang, Ma. Go fix me some vittles, bizzatch"
Mom "Yes, Jonny. You're mommies lil boy"
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Cop "Ma'am. Did you have any reason to suspect your son was a serial killer"
Mom "No, ossifer...hiccc....he was always so nice. I don' sees how dis happsened"
Cop "We have a warrant to search the premises..."
Mom "o...k..."
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[in son's room]
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Cop "Ma'am...how did a ten year old purchase all these weapons?"
Mom "His father got them for him before he went to prison"
Cop "Didn't you smell all the dead animals and body parts?"
Mom "Well, Jonny alwayzzz had a feets smellers prollem."
Cop "You didn't bother to come in and check?"
Mom "Oh, my, no. It's his room. I have no right to go in there"
Cop "Ahhhh. I see. So Jonny paid for this house with his crack sales revenue?"
Mom (confused) "nooooo....I hold down 3 jobs and escort on the side to pay the mortgage...."
Cop "Oh, I see"

This is why gun control activists get very vocal. We have a segment of society that does not take gun ownership seriously. Why in the hell would you allow an 11 year old unrestricted use of firearms? How did they become "his" guns? Did he buy them with his allowance, all by himself? Who is providing him with ammo? Has the mother ever tried whippin the kid's ass? I just don't buy that "its out of my hands" comment. In my time, If I ever pulled something like that, I got punished, and it wasn't some half-assed punishment like a "Time Out".

Guns are not toys for 11 year old sociopaths. Even normal 11 year olds should never be allowed unrestricted use of a firearm. Personally, I'm in favor of very restrictive gun control laws, but I know that in the US, it just ain't gonna happen. The cat is long out of the bag. Right now, I'm hoping for high penalties for dumbass parents that let kids roam the street with loaded guns.

Things that make U go huh?

*goes to check 9 yr old sons room*

<empty candy wrappers
<dirty clothes
<rocks picked up on the way home
<crayons, markers and pencil stubs
<cardboard boxes NOONE but he could find a use for
<my rolling pin that's been missing for 2 weeks........


Caleb go clean UR damn room!!!!!!

Holy crap, I'm glad I don't live in Canada. I understand being wary about guns and such in school, but if the kid admitted right away that it was fake, and it was obviously not a real weapon, the police should NOT have been called. He should've been given a verbal warning, and possibly like a day suspension, if that.

Take away my 11 year old childs hand grenade??? but it's his!!!

Billy, what you wanna do that for? Grenades aren't handguns.

if you become an american you automaticly have the right to own a gun, yea you must pass tru paperwork but i doubt the brady bill is going to dig up much dirt on a kid.

The problem isnt guns in the US (i have a cupple myself, good fun) its the problem of education, now obiously this idiot doesnt have a scrap of it to let their kid take a gun to school nor do they have the sence to educate their child in proper gun safty and approprateness.

If guns were banned here there would be some stupid idiot saying well i cant lock up his sword he is allowed to it ... or his composite bow or whatever it just goes on and on ...

guns dont scare me nearly as much as stupid peps... and the stupid will always have something to screw your life up rather its firepower or manpower... theres just no dealing with the truly ignorant.

This coming from someone who lives less than an hour from the hatfeilds ... sigh

I had a gun when I was 11 years old. It was my gun and I could do what ever I wished with it. I knew how to use it, care for it and when and where it was appropriate to take and use it. My parents made darn sure I was mature enough to have it before I recieved it and they also made sure I knew the rules. In the 31 years since I haven't shot anything with any of my weapons I wasn't intending to shoot, never injured or killed any living creature and never ever did anything stupid like bring it to school. It is both the parent's fault and the kid's fault, there is just a whole lotta stupid to go around. We had guns in the house but they were locked up and put away and us kids knew not to mess with them, period.

The problem with gun control advocates is there just isn't any law you can pass that would stop this sort of thing from happening because there are already plenty of laws and it hasn't stopped anything. You aren't going to confiscate the guns cuz no matter what laws you pass, they aren't going to be turned in and although you may stop the selling of new guns, most guns you see are 20, 30 years old or more. There are more guns in New York City where guns are outlawed than there are in the entire states of Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arkansas combined.

To be honest, I think every child should attent a shooting class and learn about guns, what they can do, when and where you can use them and how to handle them safely (I did in high school but it should be much sooner). Guns aren't going to go away and you ignore at your peril because gun accedents usually occur with people who aren't trained and have no respect for them. If all you know about guns is from movies, TV and video games, you are going to hurt someone the first time you encounter a real, loaded one.

well darling i'm glad you don't live in my country as well. we gladly take action and are serious about matters especially when it comes to things like this. yes parents should get flak, if they can't raise their kids right and teach them right from wrong then they deserve all the flak coming to them.
i say parents need to smarten their arses out big time. i still think we aren't tough enough where i live, yet i'm glad we have stricter rules than living where no action is taken and everyone gets away with a slap on the wrist.
plese stay in your country and allow your kids to own weapons. we don't need that here ty

I believe that even normal 31 year olds should never be allowed unrestricted use of a firearm.

Danged English, if it weren't for them we wouldn't have put the right to bare arms in our constitution. Then it would have been real easy to take away guns and disarm the public then. But no, they tried to take them away and our forefathers got a little testy about that and the idea that only the government should have guns. A governmet that wasn't too interested in the general welfare of its colonial citizens at the time.

Ol' Thomas Jefferson and his buddies had the right idea, an armed populace is a force to recon with and needs to be taken into consideration when setting policy, an unarmed populace is, well, target practice.

Massive, insane over-reaction is better than massive, insane under-reaction how, exactly?

This was how I grew up as well. I got my first real gun when I was I think... 10 or 11 as well, sometime in there. My father owned it technicly at the time, of course, but... It was just a rifle at the time, but I was *damned well sure* taught how to treat it with respect.

My parents didn't even let me buy toy guns (suction-dart guns and the like) until I had *clearly* learned how to respect a real gun, because they didn't want me to ever get into the mindset gun = toy.

That said, my parents would have kicked my ass had I even entertained *thoughts* of bringing a gun to school, and I wouldn't have seen anything more dangerous that *string* until I moved out.

The kid needed knives. It is obvious that people in school want to hurt you, and you want to hurt them bad enough that they will not get back up immediately, but kids need to learn that you don't quite want them to go down permanently. That is of course, unless you want to commit suicide as well, which is another very real option.

I really don't think that was a massive over-reaction, in the end he wasn't charged with anything, but is that kid ever gonna bring a fake gun or real gun to school ever again? Are his friends? Probably not. I grew up in a house with fire arms, and there was NEVER any problems. It always irks me to see people in the news with the accidental shootings saying "but I didn't think it was loaded" Rule #1 with fire arms: THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED - even when you're sure it's not, and then follow that with rule #2: DON'T POINT A GUN AT ANYTHING YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO SHOOT. That's it, how hard is that to remember? Unfortunately, being an idiot does not prevent you from purchasing a firearm. And in Washington state, you must be 21 to purchase/own a handgun and 18 to purchase/own a rifle/shotgun. (at least last time I checked)

While I am rarely in a situation that would warrant the use of a gun, I am regularly the victim of attempted muggings by very stupid people. See. I'm 6'2", well over 250lbs, and I usually have a backpack or large metal object in my hands when I'm out and about in broad daylight.
These last two factors are important to note, since a 'smart' mugger would at least bring something like, say, a big knife. The people that try to mug me either have really small knives (3" or less), or can't seem to hold it AND maintain a standing position. I'll give them a fair warning, but if they get to close I'll blame it on a stiff wind.

I am now living in a better neighborhood where there is statistically less crime and alot less drunked hobos, but now I have to worry about decently dressed people in expensive cars pulling up to me on the sidewalk and asking if I have any $FANCY_CONDIMENT.

For this reason I am looking to aquire this for the quick resolution of any threatening situations or annoying-ass rich people.

As for kids with guns, and parents that dont control them. Imprison the parents, and send the kid to boot camp.

I don't approve of using the police as a "scare tactic" to get kids to not be idiots, much less expulsion from school for the same.

Well I do know the schools around here make it pretty clear that there are no weapons allowed, real OR fake. If the kids are not smart enough to not bring one to school, what else is the school supposed to do? Expulsion doesn't really do a thing to curb anything imo. But of course we all do have our own opinions.

now i couldn't of heard a better answer myself, i totally agree with you here and i would be the first to take these kids and boot camp em and the parents.

possibly do what ever school should be doing, educate? oh ya thats right teachers these days just don't care anymore either. as for these kids not being smart enough to know not to take them.....it's the parent being more stupid to buy them in the first place.
wtf does a kid need to "play" with guns for even if fake. doesn't that just make the parent look even more stupid for allowing their kid to play with something thats not meant to take as a joke? same goes with swords & knives. you just don't buy them for kids. fake or not, they are not toys.
sighs......what happend to buying your kids games that are actually educational so they not only have fun but learn new things to?