Supreme Court Rules Against Abortion Clinics

I agree.


I look at it this way:
I would not have an abortion again UNLESS my child was going to be born with some huge defect, such as water on the brain.
I do not judge people that have had abortions.
For those that believe in God, He will sort it out in the end. It is not up to you to pass judgement on a woman for her actions. Oh, and there is that little thing called forgiveness that seems to be forgotten by most. (this is my view and is no way being judgemental..meaning people will burn in hell for having an abortion, because if that were the case I would be there myself)
I see the need to work together to eventually get to a place where we don't even need laws for or against abortion. Hopefully that day will come, but realistically it's doubtful.

Protest all you want, I don't care. Just don't touch people or eventually one of them will hit back harder. It's true you can catch more flies with honey......in this case that would be compassion and not being judgemental.

I think if you have a look at my first post, you'll see no mention of anyone. I state an opinion about certain actions, but not people, two very different things.

I'm not judging anyone and am quite able to separate action from the person.

I'm offering what is, in fact, a reasoned, non-emotional, non-judgemental way to look at the issue, one of the few you'll see.

Remember, I didn't say abortion was murder. I said it can be argued as murder and that the argument cannot be disproven. The same for the other side. It can be argued as not murder and cannot be disproven.

I think my point is this: It's common for someone to say "I better be careful here, I might get someone killed." We do this with driving drunk, driving too fast, building buildings too close to tolerances and having them collapse, etc. The list is endless.

All I'm saying is that one way to look at the problem is just that: Be careful, you may be killing someone. The fact whether you are or aren't can't be proven one way or the other.

Do you see?

I'm not judging anyone. I dislike it as much as anyone else.

And what work are you doing exactly to prevent abortions? I think standing outside the clinic in protest is one way. And I wasn't saying this ruling is going to make abortion illegal, I'm saying its a harbinger of future actions.

And this, "I wouldn't do it myself, but I think others should have the choice" argument doesn't hold water, either.

Let's apply it elsewhere: "Personally, I wouldn't drown my kids in the bath tub, but I believe that people should have the choice."

I believe women have a choice...I just believe it's back a few steps right about the time when she is consenting to sex knowing that no contraceptive method is 100%.

The biggest rankle in this whole argument is the issue of late-term abortion. No where is the intractible zeal of the Left more clear than this point. Why is it a fetus if the head is inside or the cord is still attached and then magically becomes a baby once the head is removed or the cord is snipped? What changed in those 2 seconds? If the child could be removed from the mother without killing it, shouldn't it be?

-Kiamat Dusk

It sure does hold water. I mean just cause I don't eat lutefisk, doesn't mean somebody else shouldn't... it also doesn't mean I should be forced to eat it, or that it should be kept away from people...I mean sheesh, what part of that don't you get? Please, we don't need laws to govern a personal situation here.

Now you are going way out into left field with that statement.

Sometimes a woman has no choice, did you ever think about that? And where is the man in that decision? AGAIN, this is about not needing laws to govern a personal and private situation.

Oh, and show me where in any of these arguments that anybody says that they want everybody to have abortions? Or where somebody says that they think late-term abortions are the coolest things around? Please, show me...

Show me where they are arguing against them. Show me the thread where you and Kendra, and the rest are rallying against this despicable act.

And you always want to remove the father from the equation, but I don't see you advocating the removal of laws forcing an unwilling father to pay child support. Where's the privacy in that decision?

-Kiamat Dusk

I do not think late-term abortions are performed for anyone's "convenience". I read an article about one just the other day. It's a very sad story. While I don't know what I would do in her circumstance, I'm sure not going to judge her for making her decision. And, yes, it is an old article, but it does have merit.

http://boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2004/01/25/my_late_term_abortion/

No, THIS would be Danielle Steele:

....while gazing into her daughter's eyes on her wedding day, she remembers the protester who saved her daughter's life was a goodlooking Roman Catholic billionaire industrialist, who was also pretty darn good in bed, and on that long ago day he swore to her that if she kept the child he would marry her and raise the child as his very own...

I really really really needed that laugh - THANKS!!

....but the lying bastard was already married to another woman and they had 12 kids. He left her in a lurch after sending two child support payments of 1.00 each and then moved to a town full of polygamists, where he married a set of twin sisters who each bore him 3 kids.

The woman found out and sent the geriatric mafia after him to get her money and his penis in a jar for her mantle.....

Holy shit, Stephen King got added to the mix!

Well I never was a big fan of Danielle Steele. You should know who my favorite author is by all my random PM's about my freezer

I am sure I could work in some Koontz also.

There's spectrums for abortion, there's the people who use abortion as some kind of secondary birth control and there's people who got raped and pregnant and do not want to have the child of a knife wielding maniac who can't keep his pants on.

I think i'm willing to forsake the first to stop the latter.

If you're having more than 3 abortions a year, then they could just have the state politely inform the person that this isn't an easy way out of responsibility and that abortion isn't a drive-thru sort of deal.

I'd rather have a fetus killed in the womb, if you can even call it that, then have it starve to death later because the parents can't afford to have a baby in their life and aren't allowed to have an abortion because some christian fundamentalists think they know best.