Then call them Civil unions for Straight couples also -
and let the Churches decide who is Married in their faith.
and let the Churches decide who is Married in their faith.
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06-07-2006 11:32
Then call them Civil unions for Straight couples also - and let the Churches decide who is Married in their faith. BINGO! _____________________
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so a goose is a large duck? and its not seperate really. think about it, you have a different name for alot of things than i do, are either name wrong? no. are they equal yes. IE i call all soda's Coke yall probably call them Pop or soda or w/e. they are still a carbonated beverage. the seperate but equal arguement doesn't even come into play here, that would imply different rules for each, i'm just saying a different name would make it less offensive to ppl Actually, the different name is what makes it MORE offensive to people. In fact, comparing people to carbonated beverages is a bit sad. But lets debunk you from the beginning of your comment, shall we? A goose neither looks, nor quacks, like a duck. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:33
Then call them Civil unions for Straight couples also - and let the Churches decide who is Married in their faith. Blessed be, she's nailed it on the head! _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:34
so we'll just call what you guys do "kenneling". That would be less offensive to me. and comparing child-rearing to dog's breeding is any less offensive? |
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06-07-2006 11:39
Actually, the different name is what makes it MORE offensive to people. In fact, comparing people to carbonated beverages is a bit sad. But lets debunk you from the beginning of your comment, shall we? A goose neither looks, nor quacks, like a duck. 1. geese do have a quack that is similar to a ducks 2. they have the same build but with longer necks and legs now when did i compare ppl to coke's? |
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06-07-2006 11:43
1. geese do have a quack that is similar to a ducks 2. they have the same build but with longer necks and legs now when did i compare ppl to coke's? Two of your posts ago. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:44
Two of your posts ago. i posted an example of what i was trying to relate, i never said ppl are like coke's did i? i don't put hidden meanings into what i type, you have to take it at face value because you can read w/e you want to believe into something |
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1. geese do have a quack that is similar to a ducks 2. they have the same build but with longer necks and legs now when did i compare ppl to coke's? Read your own post... Geese make a honking or bleating noise, they do not quack. They are typically much larger and slightly more aggressive than ducks, have longer necks and legs, and a slightly different bill. SO pwned. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:47
i posted an example of what i was trying to relate, i never said ppl are like coke's did i? If the first half of that sentance is true, the second half is false. _____________________
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what does the animal's attitude have to do with looks and sounds? and you don't hunt do you? in the wild ducks do make more than just a quack and geese do make more than just that annoying honk. same with dogs, they can make more noises than just barking
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06-07-2006 11:49
and comparing child-rearing to dog's breeding is any less offensive? Why should it matter to me if you're offended? You don't care if *I'm* offended. _____________________
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If the first half of that sentance is true, the second half is false. not really, when i compare the difference in names of one thing to the difference in names of another thing, where do ppl come into play? i am discussing monickers and/or slang terms, not ppl. |
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06-07-2006 11:53
not really, when i compare the difference in names of one thing to the difference in names of another thing, where do ppl come into play? i am discussing monickers and/or slang terms, not ppl. Except that your "monickers and/or slang terms" define what a group of people can do. _____________________
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Why should it matter to me if you're offended? You don't care if *I'm* offended. thats right i don't care if your offended by giving you what you wanted, the legal rights of a heterosexual married couple. so please enlighten me as to how me agreeing that it needs to be done is offensive? |
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what does the animal's attitude have to do with looks and sounds? and you don't hunt do you? in the wild ducks do make more than just a quack and geese do make more than just that annoying honk. same with dogs, they can make more noises than just barking The nasal passages of most geese are incapable of producing the quack noise you would hear from a duck. Ducks don't bleat, either. However, I'm sure you can get the sounds confused when the animal is plummeting 100 feet with a bullet in its heart. You're right. I don't hunt. I find shooting at things that can't shoot back the practice of insecure men with small penises and a bully complex, in a day and age where hunting is not required for food. However, I do go out and commune with nature for religious purposes, at which time I'm exposed to the sounds of animals and their variety for longer than you would be. See, I don't kill them, thus they keep making noise. _____________________
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thats right i don't care if your offended by giving you what you wanted, the legal rights of a heterosexual married couple. so please enlighten me as to how me agreeing that it needs to be done is offensive? Because I want to get married, asshat. Not civil-unioned. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:54
This whole same-sex marriage thing annoys me to no end. Mosly because most people aren't even arguing about the same thing. A lot of people don't support it because they don't support same-sex couples consciously or unconsciously. Really decent people who will tell you that they support gays, lebians, and "the family;" but don't support gays and lesbians being able to use the methods of civil contracts currently in place to aid in the creation of families. To call the union of two people of the same sex a civil union and not a "marriage" IMHO amounts to labeling these people as seondary citizens and thier vows as not as ligitimate just because you want to reserve traditional diffrent-sexed marriage and relationships as more ligitimate. Naming same-sex unions as something other "mariage" in my mind is only a cop-out to appease people who feel threatened.
I will not touch religion. THIS ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION. The state connot force any church or institution to recognize civil law as part of thier dogma. However, it seems that the reverse isn't the truth. I don't understand why this isn't being picked up as an issue of gender equality. If we recognize that some women can take on all the roles of a man, then why is it so hard to believe that some men can take on a the roles of a woman? True gender equality means realizing that sex does not always decide gender, that the extent that gender influences personality differs, and that one's gender is not easily changed. A good friend once told me that they don't support same-sex marriage because, "There are only somethings that a man can give and only somethings that awoman can give." I do not agree with this and I think it's the basis for the support on the ban for gay marriage. As if making it into law would dictate reality. But the reality of these people who whould truly be affected by the law and are being mistreated as political poker chips at the moment is something tha most people don't understand or perhaps refuse to work through to understand. I belive in the far future gay marriage will be leagalized. Perhaps it will be called "Civil Unions" first, but I belive the American people will eventually work it out. I usually don't post about politics... It is very hard to covince anyone about anything. Religion and politics are deeply engrained and and asking someone to question them is likey to gather a negative responce and make people less likely to agree with you to begin with. But here's my 2 cents. |
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06-07-2006 11:54
Except that your "monickers and/or slang terms" define what a group of people can do. define what they can do? what the hell are you talking about. |
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06-07-2006 11:56
Because I want to get married, asshat. Not civil-unioned. oh you want to make this personal not intelectual, should have known this would come from you kendra. |
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06-07-2006 11:57
I find shooting at things that can't shoot back the practice of insecure men with small penises and a bully complex, in a day and age where hunting is not required for food. However, I do go out and commune with nature for religious purposes, at which time I'm exposed to the sounds of animals and their variety for longer than you would be. See, I don't kill them, thus they keep making noise. Getting off track a bit here, but I eat meat - maybe your a vegetarian, but I'm not. As long as I eat meat, I find it hypocritical to be able to buy it in the store but not stomach killing it myself. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:57
oh you want to make this personal not intelectual, should have known this would come from you kendra. You just told her she shouldn't be allowed to get married in an actual marriage. You're the one who made it personal. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:58
oh you want to make this personal not intelectual, should have known this would come from you kendra. It's spelled "intellectual." Of course it's personal. People like you wish to deny me even something so simple as a noun. You made it personal when you decided that you have more rights than I do, just because you like to stick your penis in a vagina. _____________________
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06-07-2006 11:59
You're right. I don't hunt. I find shooting at things that can't shoot back the practice of insecure men with small penises and a bully complex, in a day and age where hunting is not required for food. However, I do go out and commune with nature for religious purposes, at which time I'm exposed to the sounds of animals and their variety for longer than you would be. See, I don't kill them, thus they keep making noise. for the record, i only kill what my family and i will eat, never anything more. its also healthier and cheaper to do so than to buy meat from the store |
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06-07-2006 12:01
define what they can do? what the hell are you talking about. Somehow, I don't think you will ever get it, even if I do explain it, but I'll try one more time. Our government has long since struck down the "Seperate but equal" concept. Even if two drinking fountains are absolutely identical (which, granted, was normally not the case), you cannot make one "whites only", and one "other races only". It doesn't matter if they do exactly the same thing, exactly as well - you can't have seperate systems for two groups of people. _____________________
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It's spelled "intellectual." Of course it's personal. People like you wish to deny me even something so simple as a noun. You made it personal when you decided that you have more rights than I do, just because you like to stick your penis in a vagina. if you go way back to the beginning i said it would be the exact same. and i could live with having my marriage changed to civil union, however to say something as absurd as kenneling? thats just fucking retarded |