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Stillpink Sandgrain
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Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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10-30-2005 05:44
Yes im panic attacked! cause no one will talk about it and my CPU burning up here at 100% all day and NIGHT HELPPPP..thanks Use TASK MANAGER and look at PERFORMANCE people! Lots of folks running at 54% don't even have INTEL or NVIDIA???? Lots that do now have 100% CPU performance??? somebody smack me UP and explain please...thanks for your help (if any) - Stillpink Sandgrain
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Anamatronic Canetti
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Join date: 10 Oct 2005
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10-30-2005 06:24
I run a 3200 amd and ive always had 90-100% cpu useage in busy areas, Even pre 1.7,
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Stillpink Sandgrain
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Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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10-30-2005 06:32
thanks for that anyway...that's what I keep getting from others in SL However, no game should use more than 50% of my cpu in my opinion and I don't care WHAT size it is, I just don't want to burn out my machine! There must be an internal option in SL to control this for us all to save our pc from burnout..please consider this Linden Labs for all on slower pcs and to help save our new ones so precious to us all.
O the joy of being able to check my EMAIL while in SL without lagging machine or crashing out completely...I know, I ask TOO TOO much *dreams on* ![]() |
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Zonax Delorean
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Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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10-30-2005 06:41
LOL, your CPU won't burn out, it's just working as usual. The cpu doesn't need 'rest', it just needs cooling, but it probably gets that.
I've seen desktop-style processors in cheaper servers run at 1.0 load (100%), without any problem. The only problem you might get if you do overclock your CPU too much, that might lower it's expected life from 10 years to 3-4 years maybe. |
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Michael Martinez
Don't poke me!
Join date: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 515
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10-30-2005 07:51
You would really want a game to use 1/2 of your system?
So it will be slow, chunky while it could take advantage of your system and use 100% and run smooth and fast?? I for one would complain if I bought a game that ran crappy because they programmed to not use my machine. Also using 100% of your CPU would NEVER burn it out if the cooling in your system is good. My CPU runs at around 30 degrees celcius when doing nothing, and jump to about 44 degrees celcius when it is working (running SL or whatever)..and within second after it stops working it will drop back down to 30 degrees... Also how much memory do you have, how fast is the CPU? I have a Pentium 4 3 gig and 1.5G of ram, and SL takes 100% CPU with running, but when I run poser & photoshop (yes both at same time ) I see really no difference with the game at all or the apps. As my computer does not have to swap ram to harddrive for those to work as there is enough ram. |
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Elror Gullwing
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Join date: 6 Sep 2004
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CPU Usage
10-30-2005 08:40
Checked my Activity Monitor Utility. Even with another applicaton running in the background, several checks of while in SL displayed a CPU Usage of 45-55%.
I would have to d/l a temp check program, but my fans cycle as needed. Don't think there is a problem for those systems that have fairly significant resources. ![]() |
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Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
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10-30-2005 09:34
thanks for that anyway...that's what I keep getting from others in SL However, no game should use more than 50% of my cpu in my opinion and I don't care WHAT size it is, I just don't want to burn out my machine! There must be an internal option in SL to control this for us all to save our pc from burnout..please consider this Linden Labs for all on slower pcs and to help save our new ones so precious to us all. O the joy of being able to check my EMAIL while in SL without lagging machine or crashing out completely...I know, I ask TOO TOO much *dreams on* ![]() <raises eyebrow> You do know that 99% of all real-time games tend to use 100% of your CPU while running, right? They're DESIGNED to so that other programs will not cause the game to stutter when they're siting in the background. E-mail and office application don't do this because they don't need as much processing power AND because no one cares if hey stutter for a moment due to a background process requesting CPU time. And, if using 100% of your system's CPU burns it out, then you have one of hte following: 1. Faulty CPU. 2. Overclocked CPU. 3. Inadaquate cooling on your CPU. I've been in computers for 20+ years, and I have NEVER seen a CPU burn out from use while being properly cooled. They DO tend to die from overheating, but that's just a side effect of CPU use, not a direct causal relationship. Did that make sense? |
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Kathmandu Gilman
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Join date: 21 May 2004
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10-30-2005 10:49
I have a duel core processor 4400 and 2 gigs of ram and SL will take up 90-100% of one core when affinity is set or 50% of each processor is it isn't. This good and all is well with my system. As others have said, there is no problem here at all as long as the CPU is cooled properly.
It's a little like saying, "zOMG my monitor is running at 100% capacity!" _____________________
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Osgeld Barmy
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10-30-2005 10:51
i never figured out the 100% cpu usage, i had alot of that druing the 1.6 release bogged my toon down couldnt work outside sl bla bla bla.. I keep hearing from the lindens well sl is an intense program, which may be true in casino land 2000, but i hardly expected it in dead sim B.
few patches and a week went by and i could run sl gimp psp flash firefox and the kitchen sink all at once with less than 60% usage in dead sim b.... last time i think it had to do with how they wrote something and it was giving win2k indigestion, this time i would point to the LOD ajustments or the texture issues, and just like last time it seems to only hit certian configuration of pc (altho not me heh) soooo send in some bug reports shrug off the page 48 speech from the ll tech for non techs book and once it all gets worked out ittl be ok ![]() |
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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10-30-2005 12:41
Stillpink don't worry! Everything's gonna be okeydoke!
If you wanna reduce SL CPU usage for awhile... just minimize it in windowed mode and it'll go dowwwn. It doesn't reduce as much as I feel it could (still hard to multitask for me), but maybe I just need (want) a faster computer. _____________________
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Kazuo Murakami
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Join date: 31 Aug 2005
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10-30-2005 12:57
Has always run at 100 percent usage for me, windowed or not. I agree that it makes little sense.
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Stillpink Sandgrain
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10-30-2005 14:28
WELL thanks for all the SAGE advice here in this forum AND yes I will try to relax however the question remains why 50% run at 50% and the rest of us at 100%??? yes, I'm on a need to Know Basis LOL.. burn baby BURN
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Torley Linden
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Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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10-30-2005 14:30
WELL thanks for all the SAGE advice here in this forum AND yes I will try to relax however the question remains why 50% run at 50% and the rest of us at 100%??? yes, I'm on a need to Know Basis LOL.. burn baby BURN ((( *runs to dry ice her intelligent box*Where's the stats on that? Who exactly is running at 50%? Get 'em to post here with all the juicy info! _____________________
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Bertha Horton
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Join date: 19 Sep 2005
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10-30-2005 15:57
The first game I played that went to the "dreaded" 100% was Ragnarok Online, even though it only needed about 40% of the resources. The reason was that RO was programmed in such a way so as to work with other OSes besides Windows XP. XP allows for better resource handling in multitasking, or so I hear.
With SL, I haven't actually checked the task manager, but even if it needed only 80% of my resources I wouldn't be surprised if it said 100%; it sure runs slow enough that I'd gladly begrudge the extra 20% in case it helped. |
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Chosen Few
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Join date: 16 Jan 2004
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10-30-2005 16:18
Don't worry Stillpink, SL will always use whatever CPU resources are available to it. It's perfectly normal. If you've got nothing else running, SL will use 100% minus whatever your OS consumes. If you've got SL and Photoshop running, SL will use 100% minus whatever Photoshop and your OS use. It's always that way.
As for your impression that half the world only has SL use 50% CPU cycles and the other half has it use 100%, I'm not sure where you're getting that. Everybody should be seeing CPU at 100% while SL is running. As others have stated, your CPU doesn't get "tired". It doesn't care if it's running at 100% capacity or 1% capacity. It just does what it does. All it needs is proper cooling and it will run forever. If you're really concerned it's gonna "burn", throw an extra fan on it. I doubt you need it, but if it puts your mind at ease, go for it. It certainly can't hurt. _____________________
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Travis Bjornson
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10-30-2005 17:08
I'm using a Toshiba notebook with Windows XP, 1 gig RAM and 2.8 GHz. The CPU usage doesn't go much over 60% (30% minimized), and SL runs quite well, depending on which sim I'm in.
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Allen Harrington
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Join date: 14 Jul 2005
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11-04-2005 14:03
FYI. The CPU of any system is always doing something 100% of the time unless it is in sleep mode. The moment you turn on the PC the CPU starts running the BIOS code and never stops but does share CPU time with the operating system code, which in turn shares its time with applications. When no application is running The CPU has not stopped running. It still is running the bios code and OS code in loops as fast as it can. So you see even if the Task manager is saying CPU usage is 50% it does not mean it is idle for the other 50% of the time.
When you run SL the math section of the CPU is used to a heavy degree compared to most other programs. Use of math section of the CPU will generate a lot of heat because it occupies a majority of the CPU. So the more math operations a CPU does the hotter it will run. You can get different CPU temps when running at 100% usage depending how intensive to math is within the program that is running. So the final word is not letting the CPU reach critical temps. A cooler CPU will not improve performance but will last longer. 100% usage will not hurt the CPU. _____________________
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Kitten Lulu
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11-04-2005 17:27
Well, I do have a notebook and I don't like to hear it's fans running all the time and the keyboard so hot that I can't touch it comfortably.
So when I am in non-busy areas, I use a program to reduce the speed of my Centrino processor to 50%. The program is called SpeedswitchXP. |
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Melissa King
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Join date: 22 Dec 2004
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11-04-2005 17:35
How do you know what percentage of your CPU is doing what? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Striker Wolfe
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11-04-2005 22:02
Stillpink,
The answer is in dual processors and/or logcial ones which can use multiple threads at the same time. If you have a dual core or hyper threaded CPU it will run SL at 50% because SL only can use 1 thread. My laptop has a Pentium 4 HT which runs SL at 50%, nothing more, nothing less, and my gaming rig has an Athlon 64 which runs at 100% because its a single processor. Makes sense? |
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Kathmandu Gilman
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Join date: 21 May 2004
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11-04-2005 22:48
How do you know what percentage of your CPU is doing what? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Control+Alt+Delete brings up the task manager, its under performance. _____________________
It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
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Ivy Thatch
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Join date: 23 Mar 2005
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11-10-2005 20:04
I am not sure and SL is down now so I can't check, but I do NOT think SL uses that much of my resourses. However, I crash all the darn time. Could it be that I have some sort of issue where I need to tell it to use more of my resourses so that I do not crash so much? I will check and see how much of my resourses it uses when the grid comes up, but I know I have NO problems running adobe, yahoo, poser, AIM and SL at same time, with no apparent strain on resourses. No lag when switching back and forth between them for example. Only problem is occasionally when I switch to bring up a message box from yahoo or AIM it will lock up the system. But it never responds slowly as you would think would indicate low resourses. Ideas?
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Dyne Talamasca
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Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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11-13-2005 22:04
100% CPU usage is certainly normal (I understand the concept) but browsing my machine's drive (in explorer, firefox upload, whatever) while SL is idling in the background is SLOOOOOOOOW. Like 1 file or folder every few seconds. That's a bit unusual. I have to set the Explorer/FF process priority to AboveNormal (whihc doesn't seem to affect SL) to get my normal responsiveness.
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Hobo Saramago
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Join date: 23 Oct 2005
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11-14-2005 07:47
100% CPU usage is certainly normal (I understand the concept) but browsing my machine's drive (in explorer, firefox upload, whatever) while SL is idling in the background is SLOOOOOOOOW. Like 1 file or folder every few seconds. That's a bit unusual. I have to set the Explorer/FF process priority to AboveNormal (which doesn't seem to affect SL) to get my normal responsiveness. When SL is running, it's doing a lot of operations with the hard drive, as well as causing Windows to use more of its page file (even with 1.5 gb of ram, it still pages crap...).. That will cause things to slow down. Windows isn't really a true multi-tasking OS. If you want true multitasking, use BeOS. What Windows does is execute code and stuff in a linear fashion. It'll wait for one thing to finish before doing anything else, which is why it takes forever for a menu to pop up when another program is loading. I used to use BeOS, and it'll display menus and do whatever even while programs are loading. Games really shouldn't need to take up so much CPU resources, but they do, and it's because of the way Windows is. Windows doesn't allocate system resources quite as well as it should, it uses the page file way too often, even when there's a gigabyte of RAM left, the whole fragmentation of the hard drive is something almost completely unique to Windows, plus, since it contains so much legacy code (almost 25 years of it), it's far more bloated than it should be. Window's isn't really the most efficient operating system around. Though, neither is Mac OS X, but it's a little better than Windows, yet, for some reason, games run like crap on it, despite it being built on NEXTSTEP, which is what many of the 90's PC games were developed under. |
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Dyne Talamasca
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Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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11-14-2005 20:59
I've used BeOS. (I used to own a BeBox, even.)
I'm also familiar with the differences between various forms of multitasking, but I understood Windows to be just as true multitasking as Linux, OS X, etc. (in fact, that was one of 95's selling points over the MacOS of the same era, IIRC). Though inefficiency in how windows goes about it certainly makes sense to me. I mostly just figured the client was clogging the bus or something. Most games generally don't slow down things in quite this fashion on my system... _____________________
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