Denial of Service Attack

Im sorry but that is a huge crock of crap.

I came into this game with nothing. I have BUILT numerous very profitable items, I BUILD buildings for contract (3 NightClubs, Numerous SkyBoxes and tons of other clothing, jewelery, weapons, dance floors, Dj booths, Scripted games, Entire boxed buildings) Basically I could build you ANYTHING you could ever imagine including weapons that are better than ANY competition.

Like I said I came into this game with nothing and walk away with roughly 30 USD a week profit doing numerous contracting jobs and selling from my 3 different stores all under group land.

This also applies to my group of friends with free accounts that have done more than I bet 90% of the population has ever done contracting within the past two months with numerous casino owners and Club Owners.

So please dont give me that line of crap

I AM THE FUTURE OF THIS GAME

And it isn't possible for the criminal element to use payment info that aint theirs? Happens everyday RL.

How do you propose to do that. A scenario. Fake name, fake payment information, signup from a public computer.

That's called being a parasite. Making money off other people's work, their subscriptions, and their time.

Ok then if its crap ar you a full member now?
I assume so...........Free accounts are running amuck all over second life..........So please If you feel the need to insult Ai then think why all of use are upset......We need LLabs to put up some protection from griefting accounts. otherwise we will lose more and more older accounts. SInce these days freebie accounta are mostly Money Chair money eaters and Money Tree (Tree Farmers) alts picking 1000(s) of lindens moneies off ( what it use to be NEWBIE money ) is just a totally mess! We have the right to bitch aboutthe freebie abuse accounts maded........I sorry hun but maybe your looking too narrow of a view........

LL has stated several times that unlimited free accounts are here to stay. and as a big business owner i feel this is the right decision free accounts bring in people who ordinarily might not have tried Sl but come in for free and and stay and spend money. also the future of SL is dependant on people having free access to the service as we all do to the web. SL is the future of the web in my opinion. that said they are working on measures to limit this kind of attack on the grid. also there are many more attacks then make the head lines. most are shut down before they get out of hand. the next up date is supposed to have code to stop nearly any attack in its tracks.

send s big hugs to Mia Linden. being a live helper my self i am sure that live help was flooded with calls about the attack and she was simply trying to urge people not to call live help about the current attack. some times you need to raise your voice to get people to listen. If the Lindens knew of the attack already there was no need for more to call live help and bog down the system any further any way. I see her announcement very justified and i don't think she was screaming its more like she was putting emphasis on the issue of not calling live help about the current attack.


Also no matter what safeguards any company puts in there software there will always some one who will try and break it attack it or cheat it and these people will find bugs holes or workarounds to do what they do. the situation is only multiplied further when you consider the complexity of the code that second life is based on. we are on the bleeding edge of programing here with second life and no matter how well the code is written there will always be things that the programmers did not think of or missed and it will open the door to attackers.

Abolish the free register for SL is not answer....for every 100 people who sign this way 99 are good and 1 is bad...rough ratio....so you are say the a** who crash the grid the others should pay the price for it...NO that is wrong...Keep register open and free to all and every walk life wish join sl,there no law say anyone have a CC,many cannot afford one for various reason...so you people who complain ...shut up for once...

Hey I have a great idea. Let's make it so that only those with verified US bank accounts, US social security numbers, US car licence, and US addresses can play.
That should end all problems, as there would be a fully traceable way of stopping what are obviously foreign or teenage scum from ruining SL for the decent folks that will provide the requisite information.










/sarcasm

I agree this prob needs to be sorted out, I loved the old days of SL when we never had so many bugs, but now the smallest bug annoys me, i.e. Stretch texture bug and Making group land home, all small bugs but so dam annoying, and the attacks on SL are now getting beyond the joke, I say pull the free accounts go back to 7 day trials again, when I first come to SL over 2 years ago on the 7 day wonder I call it, with in the 4th day of my 7 day wonder I loved it so much I signed up full perm member, now I have my own private sim etc, but with all the down time etc my annoyance is getting the better of me, please LL go back to 7 day tests and give up with the free accounts please, I sure I speak for many residents, I am sure in the long run it will make a better SL.

TO my point of view it is called working alot harder to get alot farther than many people who pay for sl and/or buy L$.

It does not matter if someone is verified or not when the build is quality. Shoppers only see quality and bargains. THey don't give a flying crap about verified.

Of coarse it is. But that isn't the issue in the here and now. Removing the ease in which someone can commit a crime like this is. By having LL take responsibility and shut the greatest security hole that currently exists with SL.

It's about controlling the damage. Minimizing the frequency in which it arises. And requiring payment info does this. It gives LL greater ability to deal with abuse swiftly and with the least amount of disturbance to the userbase.

my point is the same crew that does the grid attack is probably also completely capable of faking all information getting more accounts even with required verify and continuing their attacks.

Stopping open registration and free accounts isn't going to solve anything

Personally I wish it would. But it will not.

I happen to be a premium member. I like owning property. I like having an absolutely huge house and a Stargate in the backyard.

But I also love working at the club I work at in SL. I love making people happy and entertaining them. I love the reactions I get when I alleviate some of their stress and make their day a little brighter. Sure the money is a great thing. But that isn't all I am in it for. I'm there for a good time and to give others a good time.

if I wanted to be a leech, I certainly would have a ton more money than I currently have in world. But that wouldn't be any fun for the people around me. And it would get old for me pretty fast. It would just be a totally hollow experience. No fun for myself or anyone else.

Verified or not verified is not the issue. Several of these attacks in the past, were, in fact, made on established, payment information used, accounts.

Technically, rate-limiting on prim spawning should be practical.

Quicker identification of the problem would help.

Better reporting tools, such as a button for quick report that you did not have to fill in on grid attacks?

I would like to know, myself, how the sender got labled "unknown?"

I know there is no perfect solution, and I did not intend to start . . . a class war.

And Linden attention would be nice.

I know many ISP's have spam bots, that automatically shut down an account when email goes out too fast in to short a time. It seems to me that there has to be a practical way for the SYSTEM to spot these attacks, and damp them down automatically. I work for an ISP, and I deal with SPAM complaints and appeals, so I know it is possible.

And no, nothing can stop little johnny from "borrowing" mom's credit card. I deal with that every day too.

So the answer is technical, software control, not budget control.

Peace to you all.
Tataniya

On A slightly different note. What exactly was this object called. On e o fmy family members told me that when they logged in this morning they had something unexpected that had been dropped on them. THey did not rez it but need to know what the name of the offending object is so it can be deleted if that is what they recieved.

Dearly Darlings,

There are some lovely people playing this game for free. There are folk who play this game paying money who are horrid. As old as I am, I'm sure you've all heard this one: "One must not throw out the baby with the bath water."

I honestly feel that the LL staff are doing their best to stave off griefers and hackers. The problem is that the Second Life is too big to be served by the staff that they have on hand. I don't know all that much about computer stuff, but I do know that the few staff members that are available are stretched very thin and may on occasion make errors in either manners or judgement concerning various aspects of the game. When you are trying to fix something and you have 100s of e-mails or notifications in a matter of minutes it can get just a tad overwhelming.

Everyone wants a nice experience here...sometimes it just cannot be. I do know that every time there's been a problem at my house with griefing or rude folk, it may take a while but ultimately someone gets back to me and what ever the problem is is resolved.

A fair number of us are paying quite a bit of money to be here, so yes, it is frustrating when things go off. But you must remember....things often work out the way they are supposed to.

For the love of Pete, I don't understand the nature of those who choose to ruin our experience here. To be perfectly honest I don't think there is any excuse for it. The people responsible for al these bad actions really needs to rethink their life plan and do some charity work instead. They are obviously very smart....wasting genius to me borders on the obscene.

I'm sure you will all have had enough of my soap bubbles so I'll get off my box.

You all have a very lovely evening.

Ever Yours,

Mrs. Showdog Tiger

PS:

Even with all the problems over the last few months, I'd be willing to pay more money to play so long as the funds in question went to more staff.