Horrible Performances makes me want to quit SL

I dont know if anyone else has performance issues with this new update.
i went from running 40-50fps to 4-5fps. Making it near impossible to walk, let alone build or run a business.
I dont understand how a 10fold decrease in performance could happen...
even with 64 view distance the fps are no higher then 10!!


My system is
AMD64-3500
1GBDDR Ram
ATI 9600XT ultra 128mb
winxp prosp1a

does ANYONE have any advice? any lindens out there who can help me out, i feel like all my work has gone to waste in SL :\

Sorry, this is my first major "update" in SL and I find it HORRIBLE I've had ppl tell me it'll get better, but each day so far it's not been any better. Rezzing items is about IMPOSSIBLE, shopping is OUT, taking a snapshot and saving as a texture is about impossible and when I do, it's blank so I've wasted 10L on a pic or texture that is useless making creating pics impossible for me or building anything is not fun not to mention the beautiful scenery and imagination ppl have created in world. I'm hanging in there, but have to say am HORRIBLY displeased with the performance so far of 1.7 How long til we do see an improvement in performance? When is the "fun" coming back to the world? Can't we get the previous version back til all these glitches are fixed or are these things that need fixed as 1.7 is running? Would someone(any linden) give us some answers to these things? As a fairly newbie,of two or three months "in world", I'm not sure how long or what can be done.

Tomorrow's 7.1 patch should fix all the probems. If not, I'm going to be crying in a corner. =P

there going Patch for that also..
I think the Owe alot for all this probs

How on earth were you running 40-50 fps? I have an over the top PC and never got much above 30. With the upgrade it sounds like you are now about in the normal range.

I have to say, I just signed up today and I thought it was just me having problems. A little bit of reading around and I find that everyone seems to be experiencing performance issues.

Anyways, I'm sure it'll get better... at least I certainly hope it does. I look forward to exploring more of Second Life!

Each day so far? It has only been three.

I used to get 40-50 FPS on occasion too. But I more averaged 20-30. Now I average 1-2. That's on a 3.6Ghz P4 with 1 gig of memory and an nVidia 6800 256mb. That's emulated on Linux, but I get the same results on a 3ghz P4 with 1 gig running Windows XP Pro. I know everyone said that 1.7 Preview was fantastic, but, I'm seriously having trouble with the concept that Preview was perfect and yet obliterated the main grid.

Some people have said the smaller patches have helped them a bit, but I've not gotten any improvements out of any of them so far. According to the sim stats, my home simulator is also fucked too. It used to be 0.99-1.0 time dilation consistently, now it's 0.50 - 0.75 more often than not. Or worse, as it just hit 0.40 while I'm watching it.

I'm holding out hope for 1.7.1.

Ditto!

Susie, you just need a top-of-the line PC (or a Dual G5 on a Mac) to get 40-50 fps very easily. Yes, I know, it's uncanny, but SL actually works that fast! I had to see that to believe as well You can't imagine how interesting it was to watch the Welcome Area with 30 fps...

And indeed, the 1.7 Preview (not to be confused with the "current incarnation" of 1.7) increased the FPS even further, around 20%-50%, depending a lot on the machine it was running in (faster machines seemed not to get as big as an improvement as slower ones). I guess that this is what we can expect 1.7 to bring us, as soon as all problems are fixed.

I'm also experiencing a 5-to-10 fold decrease in FPS, and it's hard to find anyone not reporting the same, although there is quite a big difference on the sim you are. If you have been lucky to have uploaded all the textures on the sim you're building, you quite likely will have much better performance, up to just a 50% decrease since 1.6.12 — definitely not "good" but "less worse". The trouble seems to be with people having uploaded textures on one sim, but used them on others. In this case, textures have to be transferred acrosss sims, failing wit dramatic results in some cases.

The minor updates so far havent been of much use to me either. Things take forever to load if they do at all especially textures on people, attachments, vendors, etc. Yeah i've only got a 3000+ sempron emachine with 512ram, but it looks as if those with more ram arent fairing any better. So i guess we all cross our fingers and hope 1.7.1 will make up for all the damage done by the 1.7.0 series.

Well, 1.7 definitely has some problems. I'm going to be watching over the next coupla weeks to see if LL gets them ironed out. They've fixed a bunch of glitches... but as would be expected (and infact, was forecast by many of us)... 1.7 was bound to have its own quirks. There are definite texture handling problems and I see evidence of some internal problems that are not showing up in the stats box-- indicating that we are still yet not provided with the tools needed to properly evaluate system/sim performance.

The stat tools are flaky too. Our sim jumped from supposedly 550 active scripts to 2,750+. Linden Lab claims it's because they were not priorly counting scripts in child prims. While this seems to me to be an amazing programming oversight... I at the same time have a hard time swallowing the claim of 2,750+ active scripts. This would equate to a total of 42+ active scripts per 1024m... which is a ludicrous figure.

Speculation has been stated that the new "Stat Page" is skewed to focus on client content rather than server issues; I see evidence of this. Our "objects" figure is constantly changing (how does object count change every second when there is one avatar on the sim and no building being done?). The number of active scripts is constantly changing too... which tells me that someone monkeyed with the measuring system-- and blew it.

We have argued in other forums (and wound up with evidence) that LL has a vested interest in presenting their servers as running just peachy. The readings from 1.7 bring questions of impartiality/reliability of data that is being presented to end users and a lack of basic trust is ensuing. Not a good way to run a business. All of these things are visible and being considered by clients, and I've seen several postings on these forums from people who are already deciding to leave SL or are strongly considering that option.

Of course, this is always the case at any major new update. However, these discrepencies in system performance and stat readings is causing a new awareness of possible tampering server side and yet more LL finger-pointing / blame game at user content as the culprit rather than more obvious server-side / programming issues. Clients don't like that-- especially at the prices we're paying.

Not grousing-- just stating the facts.

(As a note: I have a Intel dual-core processor, 1 gig of ram, a very nice FX6600 256meg PCI-x graphics card-- and I still am experiencing pattern-based excessive lag. There are definitely some server-side issues going on).

I was having a ton of problems (low framerate) on Monday/Tuesday until I turned Shiny/Local Lighting off.

This morning, I was able to turn them back on in 1.7.1 with no problems.

Turning shiny and local lighting off does nothing to improve my FPS. And neither did 1.7.1. This is ridiculous.

I'm going to give this more time and hash more things out! Looking forward to see what happens... hang in there guys... keep walking forward.

You mean keep jerking forward, getting slung back every few steps as lag struggles to keep up, then attempting to cross a sim border and ending up at -20 coordinates because the sim didn't hand you off, and having to relog. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I'm waiting as long as it takes for my new video card to arrive for my Windows XP Pro desktop. If it still suffers the same performance problems as it does now, and as my Linux machine does, then I'm going to get real bitchy. I suspect it will, too.

Scripts often flip flop between active and passive, depending on how they are scripted.

For example, call llSetTimerEvent(10.0), and watch as your script suddenly becomes active for the next 10 seconds. If you put a llSetTimerEvent(0.0) in the actual timer { } event, it will become passive again.

There's also a lot of other ways this can happen.

Edit: Also, I believe that scripts that are running on avatars are counted in the active scripts stat as well.



Likewise! ^_^

Don't give up! You made Greedy Greedy after all!

I didn't say I was giving up! I said I was going to get bitchy. I even spent a long night getting reminded of how much I despise Windows as I was setting up an officially supported machine to try SL on. Sadly, it sucks too!

Not to mention buying a $135 video card for it.

We can get bitchy together, then.

Sounds like a plan!

Chaos is supposedly running 1880 active scripts... which since we build and control the whole thing is ludicrous.

Yup. That's what I'm having a hard time accepting. Our sim is showing 2750+ active scripts... a whopping total of 42+ per 1024m. I don't know if I could load that many valid active scripts on a sim if I were doing it on purpose.

Wow, I tried to run SL under vanilla WINE and it's freaking fast, but a little bit on the buggy side. So something in the new version makes it incompatible with older versions of WineX I guess. That's hope that the new Cedega 5.0 due out in 11 days will be a possible solution, if they managed to fix whatever they did that broke SL in 4.0. That or I can figure out why WINE is displaying some parts of SL weird, like buttons and not showing random characters.

As for my Windows XP box, I blame Intel and their inability to produce anything vaguely resembling a video card. I hope my nVidia 6600 arrives soon.

Hmm, the poor performance of WineX 3.3.x seems to be related to having to tell it to emulate Win98 to run 1.7 instead of XP. Switching vanilla WINE to 98 from 2000 ruined my performance again but fixed the graphical bugs. Hmm.