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Simon Au

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Join date: 29 Apr 2006

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07-24-2006 14:00

I got a new PC and Downloaded and installed SL with the latest patch, and it runs like arse.

Even waterhead can be a stutter fest when you look around, kind of annoying when my last PC ran it better, Is it this new patch or my computer, either way it's damn annoying to stutter like a dog

SPECS:

AMD 4200 939
2gb 3200 ram
650 PSU
Radeon x800xl 256mb

My specs should crap over this game, so why's it running like crap?

Katier Reitveld

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Join date: 13 Sep 2005

Posts: 412

07-24-2006 14:44

Is XP up to date and patched to the latest service pack?

Are you using XP Pro or XP Home?

Simon Au

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Join date: 29 Apr 2006

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07-24-2006 15:45

Yeah yeah im all up to date, although I doubt it's that

I've noticed with this new patch, when you turn around and look, you see objects dissappearing and re-appearing. So objects that you don't see on screen, are invisible, and when you look back, that object is rendered again, thus creating load time.

When loading LOTS of object, it creates stutter, which is what i'm getting everywhere

Must be all the object loading when looking around / rotating.

Wonder if you can turn off object hiding

Hok Wakawaka

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Join date: 9 Feb 2006

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07-24-2006 15:52

There is a known issue with AMD dual cores causing stuttering in SL. Contact Tech Support by email and they can help you.

Thili Playfair

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Join date: 18 Aug 2004

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07-24-2006 18:13

try this
amd dual core optimizer
AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core or multiple processor systems.

or set Secondlife to 1 core affinity in task manager.

some get this wierd studdering with dual core, some dont
im one who get it)

or is this a single core cpu?

Katier Reitveld

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07-24-2006 18:46

From: Hok Wakawaka

There is a known issue with AMD dual cores causing stuttering in SL. Contact Tech Support by email and they can help you.

hehe I was working towards that. It's an issue I THINK only with Home tho. I use XP pro without any issues.

Thili Playfair

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Join date: 18 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,417

07-24-2006 19:11

< has winxp pro, -.- studder on 2 pc's x2-4800, x2-4200, no biggie tho, saw little or no speed gain setting SL to dual core on either of my pc's when i used the amd core drivers fix.
(forgot if the fix actually stopped my studdering tho n_n )

Sidona Babeli

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Join date: 19 Mar 2006

Posts: 27

07-24-2006 22:30

With my Intel dual core in some games, I had to pick the cpu affinity through the Task Manager once I had fired up the .exe for that app. I would get warping, stuttering and so on.

Simon Au

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07-25-2006 04:12

I set one affinity and noticed no difference

Mason Rothschild

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07-25-2006 13:46

try turning off your firewall and see if that helps

Simon Au

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07-25-2006 16:42

I'd rather not

Alternatly I turned off my anti virus, still no change.

It's really unbearable this stutter

How longs tech support take to reply usually?

Thili Playfair

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Join date: 18 Aug 2004

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07-25-2006 16:48

never, havnt seen a Linden in here for months

(ducks)

Just checked my affinity its set to 2 no studder guess that amd thing actually worked for me, zero speed gain tho, oh well.

Got a screenshot of your task manager ?

Performance tab,

If you could fraps/ get any ingame video uploaded somewhere that would be nice to, see what you mean with studder, SL is -.- so slow latly.... urg, not sure what internet speed you have tho, unless everything where you are downloaded it will be ver...y....jerky..slow..

(that was a odd sentence)

Simon Au

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07-25-2006 17:51

Performance:

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2429/pic1qo4.jpg

Affinity

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3849/pic2jf3.jpg

I right click and choose one of them yeah, I do that and it makes no diff, then just changes back

Sidona Babeli

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07-25-2006 22:52

Uncheck one of those to force it to only run on one cpu. That has to be done everytime you run SL sadly.

What about vertical snyc, fast write etc? I cant remeber if AMD has it, but I always turn off Speedstep, thermal throttle etc on my Intels.

Simon Au

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07-26-2006 02:44

Right click secondlife.exe > Set affinity, and I've only got one ticked , Yeah?

Makes no difference, is there another way to do it?

Simon Au

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07-26-2006 11:01

Hopefully this new patch will sort some things out

Simon Au

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07-26-2006 11:38

Patched, still stutters like hell. Not good lads

Simon Au

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07-27-2006 04:14

I got the AMD optimiser thing and the latests drivers , they also made no difference for SL

Kind of dissappointing that theres no end to this STUTTER.

Ron Overdrive

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07-27-2006 05:25

hrm.. call me crazy.. but what drivers are you using for the ATI and have you kept your dual core drivers up to date?

Simon Au

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07-27-2006 09:27

Got latests drivers for my processor yesterday, got new drivers for my ATI a week or two ago

Ron Overdrive

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07-27-2006 19:02

From: Simon Au

Got latests drivers for my processor yesterday, got new drivers for my ATI a week or two ago

Latest ATI drivers could be any of the many available drivers for ATI out there.. are they the Catalyst, Omega, NGO, or Wildcat (just to name a few)?

Simon Au

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07-28-2006 05:59

I got the catalysts from the official site

Torley Linden

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Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

07-28-2006 12:29

I am on an AMD dual-core system myself. You may wish to look at my past postings, such as:

/139/cd/124480/1.html

Best of hope reducing the stuttering.

_____________________

Simon Au

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Join date: 29 Apr 2006

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07-28-2006 14:09

From: someone

1) Download the ImageCFG tool and copy to required folders as described above.

2) Right-click the desktop and pick New -> Text File

3) Rename the file to SetAffinity4SL.bat (or whatever you want to call it, but make sure the extension is .BAT)

4) You'll be asked if you're sure you want to change the filename. Click Yes.

5) Right-click the batch file and pick Edit

6) It should open in Notepad. Copy & paste the following lines and save.

Code:

c: cd \Program Files\SecondLife imagecfg -u SecondLife.exe pause

7) After completing each Second Life installation, double-click the batch file icon to run the tool and automatically set the affinity.

I got lost on line 3, What file? I renamed the exe and notepad file

I didn't get asked about changing filename, no edit....Kinda bitty explanation....

Simon Au

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Join date: 29 Apr 2006

Posts: 138

07-28-2006 14:39

Got the bat working and it's runs with one affinity, but has made NO difference in game...

Loosing hope here...

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Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-24-2006 14:00 I got a new PC and Downloaded and installed SL with the latest patch, and it runs like arse. Even waterhead can be a stutter fest when you look around, kind of annoying when my last PC ran it better, Is it this new patch or my computer, either way it's damn annoying to stutter like a dog SPECS: AMD 4200 939 2gb 3200 ram 650 PSU Radeon x800xl 256mb My specs should crap over this game, so why's it running like crap?
Katier Reitveld M2 News Manager Join date: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 412	07-24-2006 14:44 Is XP up to date and patched to the latest service pack? Are you using XP Pro or XP Home?
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-24-2006 15:45 Yeah yeah im all up to date, although I doubt it's that I've noticed with this new patch, when you turn around and look, you see objects dissappearing and re-appearing. So objects that you don't see on screen, are invisible, and when you look back, that object is rendered again, thus creating load time. When loading LOTS of object, it creates stutter, which is what i'm getting everywhere Must be all the object loading when looking around / rotating. Wonder if you can turn off object hiding
Hok Wakawaka Registered User Join date: 9 Feb 2006 Posts: 371	07-24-2006 15:52 There is a known issue with AMD dual cores causing stuttering in SL. Contact Tech Support by email and they can help you.
Thili Playfair Registered User Join date: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,417	07-24-2006 18:13 try this amd dual core optimizer AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core or multiple processor systems. or set Secondlife to 1 core affinity in task manager. some get this wierd studdering with dual core, some dont im one who get it) or is this a single core cpu?
Katier Reitveld M2 News Manager Join date: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 412	07-24-2006 18:46 From: Hok Wakawaka There is a known issue with AMD dual cores causing stuttering in SL. Contact Tech Support by email and they can help you. hehe I was working towards that. It's an issue I THINK only with Home tho. I use XP pro without any issues.
Thili Playfair Registered User Join date: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,417	07-24-2006 19:11 < has winxp pro, -.- studder on 2 pc's x2-4800, x2-4200, no biggie tho, saw little or no speed gain setting SL to dual core on either of my pc's when i used the amd core drivers fix. (forgot if the fix actually stopped my studdering tho n_n )
Sidona Babeli Registered User Join date: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 27	07-24-2006 22:30 With my Intel dual core in some games, I had to pick the cpu affinity through the Task Manager once I had fired up the .exe for that app. I would get warping, stuttering and so on.
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-25-2006 04:12 I set one affinity and noticed no difference
Mason Rothschild Registered User Join date: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 9	07-25-2006 13:46 try turning off your firewall and see if that helps
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-25-2006 16:42 I'd rather not Alternatly I turned off my anti virus, still no change. It's really unbearable this stutter How longs tech support take to reply usually?
Thili Playfair Registered User Join date: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,417	07-25-2006 16:48 never, havnt seen a Linden in here for months (ducks) Just checked my affinity its set to 2 no studder guess that amd thing actually worked for me, zero speed gain tho, oh well. Got a screenshot of your task manager ? Performance tab, If you could fraps/ get any ingame video uploaded somewhere that would be nice to, see what you mean with studder, SL is -.- so slow latly.... urg, not sure what internet speed you have tho, unless everything where you are downloaded it will be ver...y....jerky..slow.. (that was a odd sentence)
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-25-2006 17:51 Performance: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2429/pic1qo4.jpg Affinity http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3849/pic2jf3.jpg I right click and choose one of them yeah, I do that and it makes no diff, then just changes back
Sidona Babeli Registered User Join date: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 27	07-25-2006 22:52 Uncheck one of those to force it to only run on one cpu. That has to be done everytime you run SL sadly. What about vertical snyc, fast write etc? I cant remeber if AMD has it, but I always turn off Speedstep, thermal throttle etc on my Intels.
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-26-2006 02:44 Right click secondlife.exe > Set affinity, and I've only got one ticked , Yeah? Makes no difference, is there another way to do it?
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-26-2006 11:01 Hopefully this new patch will sort some things out
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-26-2006 11:38 Patched, still stutters like hell. Not good lads
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-27-2006 04:14 I got the AMD optimiser thing and the latests drivers , they also made no difference for SL Kind of dissappointing that theres no end to this STUTTER.
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	07-27-2006 05:25 hrm.. call me crazy.. but what drivers are you using for the ATI and have you kept your dual core drivers up to date?
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-27-2006 09:27 Got latests drivers for my processor yesterday, got new drivers for my ATI a week or two ago
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	07-27-2006 19:02 From: Simon Au Got latests drivers for my processor yesterday, got new drivers for my ATI a week or two ago Latest ATI drivers could be any of the many available drivers for ATI out there.. are they the Catalyst, Omega, NGO, or Wildcat (just to name a few)?
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-28-2006 05:59 I got the catalysts from the official site
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	07-28-2006 12:29 I am on an AMD dual-core system myself. You may wish to look at my past postings, such as: /139/cd/124480/1.html Best of hope reducing the stuttering. _____________________
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-28-2006 14:09 From: someone 1) Download the ImageCFG tool and copy to required folders as described above. 2) Right-click the desktop and pick New -> Text File 3) Rename the file to SetAffinity4SL.bat (or whatever you want to call it, but make sure the extension is .BAT) 4) You'll be asked if you're sure you want to change the filename. Click Yes. 5) Right-click the batch file and pick Edit 6) It should open in Notepad. Copy & paste the following lines and save. Code: c: cd \Program Files\SecondLife imagecfg -u SecondLife.exe pause 7) After completing each Second Life installation, double-click the batch file icon to run the tool and automatically set the affinity. I got lost on line 3, What file? I renamed the exe and notepad file I didn't get asked about changing filename, no edit....Kinda bitty explanation....
Simon Au Registered User Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 138	07-28-2006 14:39 Got the bat working and it's runs with one affinity, but has made NO difference in game... Loosing hope here...

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