Think Login Issues will Make ppl not want to play SL?
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Keman Dingo
Registered User
Join date: 3 Jan 2005
Posts: 24
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05-15-2005 17:52
You can't quit something that you can't log in to.
Everyone here has "quit".
The brief times I've managed to log in before crashing, noone was online.
It's sad to realize that even if I manage to log in ... there's nothing to log in to.
Keman Dingo
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Sumar Morgan
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2004
Posts: 9
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Will I quit
05-15-2005 18:21
I can remember when I first, or actually twice, came into Second Life. Land was limited and the cost was very high. There was no lag and no crashes. You could teleport to where ever you wish and there were lots of fun activites to participate in. Changing clothes meant dragging a folder onto yourself. Then whoever the powers in this game are got a wee bit on the greedy side. They started expanding, not upgrading the server as they went. Now the prices of land had been dumped into the sewer never to recover. What about the nice people who spent hard earned money buying it, unstable as it was. Who cares - they do. New things appeared. Lag, login problems, loss of inventory, and the inability to teleport. Then came all the new rules. Now for activities we have Tringo and Slingo - boring, very boring!!! Go and gamble and lose what small pitance of money you are given each week. No one and no place can afford to have unsponsored events that used to make this so much fun. Heard the saying, "all work and no play....". This is what the new rules are trying to force people to do and a lot of the joy of the game is gone along with a lot of talented people who were a real addition to the game because they could not afford to exist. We are all poorer because their absence.  Failure to upgrade equipment while accepting more and more members has brought us to the sad stage in which we now find ourselves. Unable to log in and unable to enjoy. If it were not for the good friends I have made in here, especially at The Shelter, I would dump this game into the trash.  To allow the servers to become so pitifully incapble of handling the load is unacceptable. It is time to let someone in to handle these problems that know what they are doing and spend the money from the huge grant so that the servers are capable of handling what the owner themselves have allowed. No more excuses - it is not the members of SL who have caused this problem. It is the unknown owners who have and we are the ones who are suffering from their lack of foresight. SU
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Keman Dingo
Registered User
Join date: 3 Jan 2005
Posts: 24
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05-15-2005 18:27
I'd be willing to give up all the "new features" made in the last 6 months if this place was really put back to the way it was.
Honestly, I think we're looking at the death rattles of SL.
Noone can dispute that this place has become less and less stable.
At what point is it so unstable that you can't use it at all? Right now.
Keman Dingo
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Amanda Fauna
Creatively pondering
Join date: 21 Mar 2004
Posts: 72
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05-15-2005 18:44
Hehe! It just strikes me as funny how Lindens don't really seem to care that no one can get on and play SL
We have to wait til a set date for a chance to fix this problem, why cant they go down for maintance early and get it over and done with. whats so special about tuesday.
Anyway. it's a shame people can't get on and play and then when you do you get logged out again and they automatically send a report.
Oh well.... Life (sl) must go on.
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Treacly Brodsky
Pixel SLinger
Join date: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 186
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05-15-2005 18:48
Thin the heard 
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Francois Jacques
Francois Jacques
Join date: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 51
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OK Until Linden Asked For Log File
05-15-2005 18:55
Trouble logging on for three days. Instead of acknowledging responsibility and going down for repair, Linden suggested the logon problem might be my (isolated) fault and asked me to go to the trouble of contacting their technical support with my log files.
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Amanda Fauna
Creatively pondering
Join date: 21 Mar 2004
Posts: 72
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05-15-2005 19:02
From: Francois Jacques Trouble logging on for three days. Instead of acknowledging responsibility and going down for repair, Linden suggested the logon problem might be my (isolated) fault and asked me to go to the trouble of contacting their technical support with my log files. *sigh* It's such a shame. I find that happens alot. Everyone has the same problems but when I report it... it's my fault or my pc's or something and I should try such and such. I don't even bother reporting problems anymore, I don't get anywhere...
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Mina Welesa
Semi-retired
Join date: 19 Dec 2004
Posts: 228
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05-15-2005 19:20
That helped.... a real explanation was all I wanted, and now things make more sense. From: someone Because we have put no limits of inventory, people have staggering amounts (terabytes) of stuff in inventory. The size of the data (again something we didn't anticipate in initial design) is going to force us to rapidly build a distributed system of many database clusters to store everyone's inventory. Right now, the queries that find things in inventory are putting severe load on the database. With respect to in-world (when you type something into the search bar in the find window), we are looking at ways to move this data to a secondary server so that the queries can be made against that server rather than the main database.
I've always had questions about the unlimited inventory we're allowed to carry around with us. (I get this visual image of a small girl carrying around a purse containing the entire Pacific Fleet plus the Queen Mary.) I would have no problem at all with limits on inventory. I don't know much about scripts so I cannot comment on that.
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Nisa Stravinsky
Danger Mouse
Join date: 16 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,238
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05-15-2005 22:35
I'm actually considering leaving for good...even though I just recently tiered up myself and my alt...and bought land...it's just no fun paying for something I've not been able to play but once in 2 weeks, when I could log in it was after spending hours of trying, and then having to log because it was now time to do something Real life.
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Nisa Stravinsky
Danger Mouse
Join date: 16 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,238
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05-15-2005 22:37
Another thing to think about, those poor new folks signing up for the 7 day trial...and then spending 6.5 of those days trying to log in
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"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. Will you leave me breathless?"
"I'm beginning to think the human psyche enjoys victimizing itself. " - Sezmra Svarog
"Film critics said I gave a voice to the fear we all have: that we'll reach a certain point in our lives, look around and realize that all the things we said we'd do and become will never come to be -- and that we're ordinary." - Anne Bancroft (2003)
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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Rofl What A Stupid Question
05-15-2005 22:57
Yes, all the people who dont know why they are in SL will move, bye bye. All the others will stay, sweet. And u always have big mouthes full of marmelade trying to do much more noise than they can really do, who promiss they will leave this time and finally dont, heck. Stupid question isnt it ? ROFL 
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Vestalia Hadlee
Second Life Resident
Join date: 19 Oct 2004
Posts: 296
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05-15-2005 23:08
From: YadNi Monde Yes, all the people who dont know why they are in SL will move, bye bye. All the others will stay, sweet. My feelings exactly.
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Chrestomanci Bard
likes cheese.
Join date: 27 Jun 2004
Posts: 27
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05-16-2005 11:32
From: Random Calliope I got curious and read one of those For New Players postings that popped up all of a sudden. I'm as impatient as anyone else, but (snip) Obviously Tuesday's 1.6.5 isn't going to be the final fix, but there's nothing like the freedom of SL, so I'm going to stick it out. This episode is just thinning the herd  That post was informative, Random...thanks. Same here re: not leaving...and I agree with Yadni, further down. If people are going to drop everything that SL has to offer because of a few lost days and some nasty lag from time to time--which, in my experience, ANY MMOG is going to experience at one point or another, for one reason or another--then I'm glad to see 'em go. I enjoy my time in SL (which, for the record, does not include attaching obscene amounts of overscripted bling, zoning out at dance clubs, or gambling my hard-earned Lindens at *ingo), but when there are problems such as we had this weekend, it only serves to remind me that I've got a First Life, too, that needs some attention every once in a while. And anyone who came here from TSO like myself can remember the battle cry "Custom Content!" Yeah, there are bugs in SL, and there always will be bugs of varying severity...it's the nature of an online atmosphere where the game creators don't have complete control of the objects' designs. (And hell, even when they do, things go wonky. It just happens.) But personally I'm almost considering tiering UP just to take advantage of all this land that's apparently about to be dumped so people can run away to...what, World of Warcraft? Heh. Enjoy.
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Dnate Mars
Lost
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,309
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05-16-2005 11:37
From: Nisa Stravinsky Another thing to think about, those poor new folks signing up for the 7 day trial...and then spending 6.5 of those days trying to log in I think they may have stopped the free trial... I know some people that tried to sign up lately, but they couldn't. Got some message about not being able to sign up.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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05-16-2005 11:40
Yes, some will leave, but you know what -- that points to personal choice as much as SL is about personal choice and extension of your First Life in a number of ways. More reasonable in some cases, especially for those on a Basic account, would be to take a prolonged break (as opposed to altogether cancel) but I leave that up to the individual.
It says something about someone willing to brave the storms of frustration and go through all the crap to dig in the diamond minds of lollipops on the other side of the inversed rainbow.
Hey, even I stopped trying to login after a point yesterday. It's alright. 
Time to expand and breathe... that's progress.
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Spooky Caligari
Registered User
Join date: 10 May 2005
Posts: 145
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05-16-2005 11:51
Not leaving, as this is most likely just a temporary issue. I have confidence that the Lindens are working their butts off to fix this bug.
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Chrestomanci Bard
likes cheese.
Join date: 27 Jun 2004
Posts: 27
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05-16-2005 11:56
From: Torley Torgeson Yes, some will leave, but you know what -- that points to personal choice as much as SL is about personal choice and extension of your First Life in a number of ways. More reasonable in some cases, especially for those on a Basic account, would be to take a prolonged break (as opposed to altogether cancel) but I leave that up to the individual.
It says something about someone willing to brave the storms of frustration and go through all the crap to dig in the diamond minds of lollipops on the other side of the inversed rainbow.
Hey, even I stopped trying to login after a point yesterday. It's alright. 
Time to expand and breathe... that's progress. Well said. I only hope that the people working on the issues haven't gotten too browbeaten...and I hope the moderators are passing on the fact that there are a *few* of us out there who aren't screaming and ranting and raving and demanding some type of reimbursement. The rest who gave up after a few tries probably wandered off to...oh, I dunno, read a book, play with the dog, make a dinner that didn't involve a microwave oven or mini-bagels. *hands ya a red lollipop from somewhere in the fields...*
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I didn't jump. I took a tiny step and there conclusions were. You think you've seen all of SL? Plywood. What you didn't know was missing.
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Patryk Under
Registered User
Join date: 3 Mar 2005
Posts: 45
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05-16-2005 11:59
No question about it... also it's gonna be intrresting seeing gom rate when (read if) ppl manage to get in.
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Wuvme Karuna
..:: Spicy Latina ::..
Join date: 6 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,669
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05-16-2005 12:01
wow the moved this thread.. LOL they did not even mentioned... LOL
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Apple Pinkney
Registered User
Join date: 11 Apr 2005
Posts: 98
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Also can't get in
05-16-2005 12:03
This is far beyond frustrating. I am on my fifth attempt to log in after waiting for and downloading the update. Something needs to be done to improve service very soon.
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Luminia Olsen
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jun 2004
Posts: 50
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05-16-2005 12:08
 ) oh well when something bad comes, somethinng good comes from that, everyone learns from the past mistakes meaning sl will become even better because of all this trouble  because if any when it happens again if it ever does LL will know how to fix it in future 
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Deekay Xavier
Registered User
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 24
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05-16-2005 12:17
Lum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nisa Stravinsky
Danger Mouse
Join date: 16 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,238
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05-16-2005 23:58
Well as soon as my land sells I will leave or rather no longer be a land holder or some one that regularly logs in...this is the 3rd try for me in SL. I just don't feel in tune with it anymore...and it is a personal choice, the login troubles I've had over the last couple of weeks just gave me time to think about the whys and whyfors of my presence in SL. To be honest when I first joined I thought SL was the greatest thing since sliced bread - innovative - unique and a world of possiblities as time went by I became as jaded about SL as I am about real life...my only reason for staying was my partner, he's left the game and moved on to another, so my visits became more about the forums, where quite frankly I enjoy socializing more. I bought land to build things - I like the way SL allows me to do 3d modelling with no real training..just align some basic geometric shapes and poof! I have a carrot the size of Texas. What the Login Issues and the teleport issues have done, is it's given me time to think about my purpose here in SL and it's given me time to join the real world again. My frustrations with the technical issues made me not want to play, but I'm smart enough to know that these will pass, albeit they will be replaced with others, but these will pass. So! I've written this to alleviate my earlier statment about leaving because of these issues. I'm actually "leaving" SL the game voluntarily because of personal choice and not because of some temporary techinical issues...my first post was a frustration post and this is my printed retraction. My second post was completely un-informed if the 7 day trial is no more.
Re-cap REAL reasons for tiering back down and selling land (SOMEONE PLEASE BUY IT):
No longer getting the enjoyment out of the game I once did Technical issues and Login issues gave me time to get involved with Real life again Partner no longer in world (he and I are now real world) Tired of building HUGE Carrots really tired of paying tier for both myself and my alt
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"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. Will you leave me breathless?"
"I'm beginning to think the human psyche enjoys victimizing itself. " - Sezmra Svarog
"Film critics said I gave a voice to the fear we all have: that we'll reach a certain point in our lives, look around and realize that all the things we said we'd do and become will never come to be -- and that we're ordinary." - Anne Bancroft (2003)
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