Will LL loose any custumers during this "Weekend wait" ??
"Keep trying" is not working.. LOL so lindens better come up with a better excuse.
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Wuvme Karuna
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05-13-2005 21:35
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Sean Gorham
Stopped making sense
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05-13-2005 21:51
I think it goes without saying that for some people this will be the last straw.
What's worse are the new people trying to log in for the very first time who, upon dealing with all the frustration of just logging in, give up altogether and uninstall SL completely, never to return.  _____________________
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Elexor Matador
Jeweler Extraordinaire!
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
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05-13-2005 22:16
I think it goes without saying that for some people this will be the last straw. What's worse are the new people trying to log in for the very first time who, upon dealing with all the frustration of just logging in, give up altogether and uninstall SL completely, never to return. Well, it IS embarrassing for LL. My company, when we produce software we do this thing called testing. Regression, usability, acceptance....and wouldn't you know....our software works! Might help you clowns over here. |
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Delpha Deckard
Just a Geek
Join date: 14 Apr 2005
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05-13-2005 22:26
What is this 'testing' you speak of?
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Shenjii Engel
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Join date: 27 Aug 2004
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05-13-2005 22:35
I was borderline about to cancel my account this evening, just because of the fact that it took me 45 minutes to log in. Bear with me, I'm a patient person, but this was quite frustrating and if not for my friends that I have here, I would've given up. I'll keep my fingers crossed that these issues can be resolved, whatever they may be.
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Mina Welesa
Semi-retired
Join date: 19 Dec 2004
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05-13-2005 22:56
If I do leave -- and I may if they can't pull things together soon -- I'll make sure the people I want to stay connected to have my email address before I go.
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Merwan Marker
Booring...
Join date: 28 Jan 2004
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05-13-2005 23:10
If these problems are serious enough for you to consider scaling back, please consider letting LL know in this thread that has be ongoing since 1/5/2005.
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Wuvme Karuna
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05-13-2005 23:30
almost 8 hours with out SECOND LIFE!!! LOL
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Kim Charlton
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Join date: 9 Feb 2005
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05-14-2005 01:41
Yes, LL might loose customers ... like Sean said, its especially frustrating to newbies. Who might not come back after their first tries.
But, please, fellow residents, let's be reasonable: SL is a system which has been in a kind of constant 'beta' since its birth. And no matter what fans of other 3D platforms (whith 'better' graphics) might say, SL is really cutting edge. We are all (mostly) early adopters and most of us are willing to bear with the problems. Why? Because there is no real alternative. At least the systems I checked aren't  And I think with the current speed of development going on, it will NOT become not much more stable. Thats one of the reasons LL is NOT making a huge marketing campaign to get more users into the system. They want to perfect SL first. And if I look at whats already been planned for future releases, I dont expect SL to mature to an acceptable stability much earlier than middle of next year. Around version 2.1 maybe, After that point, problems like that in the last few nights won't happen as much as today. But development will slow down, too. We are guinea pigs, lets face it! And I still think it's fun (nearly) every day. |
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Parijanee Dragonfly
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Join date: 18 Aug 2004
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05-14-2005 11:32
I play other games online S/l might be groud breaking or not. We pay enough for our monthy renewal and land fees to get at least some standard of decent game play. Lately
I''ve just not even been bothered to log in, Hhahaha When you do you can't log in in.. Peak time on West Coast time been horrible. I tried now lol and not even heavey user peak time what a joke. Summer more or less around corner people be comming on less. With theses issues who can blame them . I rarely ever post on the forums,This continuing LOG IN bumff is a joke LOL.. and the other bugggy buggsssss... LMAO  Yes Ive waited waited LOL...Hope they soon sort all this outor S/l going have one less patron.. Parijanee.. |
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Victoria Caligari
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Join date: 25 Apr 2005
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I certainly will be quitting!
05-14-2005 14:53
Assuming that I can log on again at some point in this century. I have to sell my land first so I can get my money back for it. Then i'm outta this sorry excuse for a MMORPG. This is by far the worst I have ever seen log in problems. I played games like UO and Lineage 2 and NWN for years and they never once had problems like this. Somebody needs to figure out whats wrong or a lot of people will be high tailing it just like I am and soon.
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Mina Welesa
Semi-retired
Join date: 19 Dec 2004
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05-14-2005 15:32
When I first joined it was great. I guess that's why I'm waiting till Tuesday... I'd love to see SL fully functional again. Like everyone else here, I sure hope they can pull it together.
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Tyler Dillon
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Join date: 4 Mar 2004
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05-14-2005 15:46
None of you will leave, i would bet on it. 99.9% of you will still be here even if it takes a month. You spend outragiouse amounts of money to play this game and spend countless hours on it so logging on to this game becomes second nature. Lindens know this and thats why they can get away with treating you like shit and thats why most liason's in game dont do their job.
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Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
Join date: 11 Feb 2004
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05-14-2005 15:50
Hell, SL could go down for weeks, would I remain? Of course, there's nothing else like SL
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Nin Tyne
Nin
Join date: 11 May 2005
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05-14-2005 18:49
I just joined last week and upgraded to a premium account, bought land, a house, and some clothing and this is leaving a really bad taste in my mouth. I will hesitate to continue playing SL if this is how they address a login issue. Its not that you don't expect a problem but saying it will be fixed Tuesday? WTF take the servers down and fix it immediately...back out any other changes from Tuesday's patch that aren't related and bump it up a few days. I have tried logging in all day today with no luck. It takes so long to time-out too its so not worth the time spent. If this problem is really left until Tuesday and I can't login until then. HELL YEA i'm so out of here and SL will lose alot of new players I would bet. On a side note, I pay more for SL currently per month then I pay for my World of Warcraft account which is substantially more stable, less laggy, and when it has login issues for an extended period, Blizzard is very good about giving you the time back (so you aren't paying not to play) and keeping people updated as to where the issues stand.
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slick McCoy
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Join date: 23 Apr 2004
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05-14-2005 19:51
I personally was thinking about upgrading to a premium account and paying per month for this game just so I could have a small plot of land, but these login problems really don't do good for me as I am very cheap and if I can't play, I won't even think about paying.
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Heidi Roo
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Join date: 11 Feb 2005
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05-14-2005 20:59
Hell, SL could go down for weeks, would I remain? Of course, there's nothing else like SL Sure, I'll remain, but I'll go to a basic account and stop paying monthly. Trying to sell my land anyway.. even though I know there's millions of m2 of land out there that nobody is buying. (For other reasons). maybe I should just release, cut my losses, and save myself some real $$ every month from here on.. |
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Dragon Steele
Artist/conservationist
Join date: 3 Jan 2005
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05-14-2005 21:23
This Will weed out the weak players from the more mature players, I hope it will at least If some one gets real upset over not getting onto a pretend world, then it is this kind of person who needs leave for a wile.
 BTW I have been known to log more then 8 hrs a day on sl And I'm Not that upset with the login issues. Just Board that why i have sunk to posting in here lol _____________________
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Keman Dingo
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05-15-2005 09:29
I "keep trying" for hours on end. It aint F****n workin. I want my refund. I suggest everyone requests the same.
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Tito Gomez
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Join date: 1 Aug 2004
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05-15-2005 09:35
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Essence Lumin
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05-15-2005 09:37
Then i'm outta this sorry excuse for a MMORPG. This is by far the worst I have ever seen log in problems. You obviously didn't play Anarchy Online when it left beta. |
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Random Calliope
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Join date: 5 Mar 2005
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05-15-2005 14:55
I got curious and read one of those For New Players postings that popped up all of a sudden. I'm as impatient as anyone else, but this helped:
Hi, Sorry for the load and login troubles. We are doing everything we can, and certainly going through some growth pains here. Nothing specific changed in 1.6 that is causing these problems - they are caused by SL's growth and specific types of in-world content that is being created. Here is an overview: Our database load is suddenly increasing and creating the observed login delays when there are both lots of people in SL and lots of people trying to log in. We don't know why the load is increasing so sharply, and we didn't predict failure at these load levels. While we are trying to figure out the specific cause of the problems, the next patch (1.6.5) has some changes that MAY provide some temporary help. The big change is an improvement in the efficiency of the way we check email for scripts. There are currently thousands of scripted objects in SL which are checking for email a total of several hundred times per second. This was something that we didn't anticipate - content creators in SL are way overloading the system with these email checks, so we need to redesign for a better approach. Hopefully this will drop overall database login load, because profiling suggests that this call is where the database spends most of it's time. Looking forward, there are two types of database load we are trying to rapidly fix. The first is inventory, and the second is in-world searches via the finder. Because we have put no limits of inventory, people have staggering amounts (terabytes) of stuff in inventory. The size of the data (again something we didn't anticipate in initial design) is going to force us to rapidly build a distributed system of many database clusters to store everyone's inventory. Right now, the queries that find things in inventory are putting severe load on the database. With respect to in-world (when you type something into the search bar in the find window), we are looking at ways to move this data to a secondary server so that the queries can be made against that server rather than the main database. We are working as quickly as we can to fix the problems - as you can see from above there isn't a silver bullet or a design error. We are just being stressed to the limit by some systems (scripted objects, inventory, and text searches) that are growing at a rate much more rapid than the growth of the SL user base. Obviously just asking everyone to delete stuff from inventory and not use objects that get email messages from outside SL isn't a sufficient solution - we need to quickly redesign to adapt to the conditions we are seeing. Obviously Tuesday's 1.6.5 isn't going to be the final fix, but there's nothing like the freedom of SL, so I'm going to stick it out. This episode is just thinning the herd |
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Vector Spaight
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Join date: 4 May 2005
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I was a customer, now I'm not.
05-15-2005 15:35
Yes, LL will lose customers. I'm one of the customers they've lost. After I upgraded to premium, this happens. Well, Linden Labs, I don't need to pay for crap; I can make enough of it on my own.
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Anjilla Alexander
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Join date: 26 Feb 2005
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05-15-2005 17:22
Will LL loose any custumers during this "Weekend wait" ?? "Keep trying" is not working.. LOL so lindens better come up with a better excuse. I have to completely agree with you. I pay for a service that I dont get to use. DOes anyone else find this a little disturbing? If youre not going to alleviate what this is doing by crediting our accounts for a couple of months (yea right.. Linden go without taking money) at least compensate us $L lol hell im game! But seriously guys. YOu make enough money from all of our accounts to hire someone to fix the problems.. One more note, I think as soon as we complain about it (and it's a valid complaint that you KNOW how to fix) WHY oh WHY do you make us wait for sometimes a week to month to have it fixed. If you KNOW how to fix it do it plz. I mean seriously why wait a week.. we're having the problems NOW. |
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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05-15-2005 17:29
One very interesting thing is to write down how you feel now, even if it's heated and tense, and keep a link to the thread in mind. Even if you leave SL, say you come back in a few months or a year, and if this Forum is still here, re-read it.
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