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Dazzo Street

Registered User

Join date: 1 Aug 2004

Posts: 71

12-16-2004 17:47

i was fine up until this.
i even updated all my drivers.
what are you guys doing? SL gets less and less stable with every update.

I cant play for more than 2 minutes now without crashing to desktop.
I'm sick to death of sending the crash report.
get new programmers. I'll be back when you get your $#@% squared away.

Hobonicus Engel

Uncouth Vagrant

Join date: 6 Nov 2004

Posts: 136

12-16-2004 17:56

1.5.9 IS junk.
What is wrong with this? Why can I only log in for 2 minute increments while others seemingly have no problem? I'd love to work on my sculpture, but I CAN'T.
I don't know what phantom "problem" 1.5.9 was supposed to fix; 1.5.8.3 worked fine for me.

Moleculor Satyr

Fireflies!

Join date: 5 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,650

12-16-2004 21:01

While I can't say that 1.5.9 is "junk" per se... I AM crashing when I teleport now. Joy overflows.

Basically, I appear in the new location, my attachments start appearing, land starts appearing, a few prims near me start appearing, then.... BAM. Crash. WHEEEEEE. Joy overflows!

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Ingrid Ingersoll

Archived

Join date: 10 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,601

12-16-2004 21:06

Same here. Crash crash crash... i can't move without crashing.

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Daverab Czukor

Second Life Resident

Join date: 19 Nov 2004

Posts: 6

Crashing fun time

12-16-2004 22:05

At least some of you can get into the program. I lock up completely when I try to get into SL now. At least with 1.5.8 I could get to the 2 minute before crashing cycle. I don't know if multiple monitors would have anything to do with it, but this is honestly rediculous. Everything seems to be broken now. Updates should improve upon base things and not require some massive overhaul of hardware interfacing (or some other major thing) to the point where it causes people like us to completely loose the ability to stay in the program.

Maybe we all have something in common. I'm using dual monitors on a Geforce 4 Ti4200 card on an AMD athlon system.

Ferran Brodsky

Better living through rum

Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

12-17-2004 00:49

I had it fixed in 1.58 after about 12 hours of crashing....

1.5.9 brought it back =\

switching from windowed to full screen and back to windowed fixed it for me last time....

Now it isn't =\

Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

12-17-2004 01:00

From: Ferran Brodsky

I had it fixed in 1.58 after about 12 hours of crashing....

1.5.9 brought it back =\

switching from windowed to full screen and back to windowed fixed it for me last time....

Now it isn't =\

ack

It's a Linden conspiracy, Ferran. Against you. See 1.5.9 only came out after you said you were finally ok with 1.5.8. They obviously felt the need to put out the anti-Ferran point release immediately in response.

I haven't installed 1.5.9 myself yet. If it brings back my 1.5.8 problems, I'll be coming to SF with you. Bring another cricket bat, will ya?

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Ferran Brodsky

Better living through rum

Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

12-17-2004 01:06

From: Kris Ritter

ack

It's a Linden conspiracy, Ferran. Against you. See 1.5.9 only came out after you said you were finally ok with 1.5.8. They obviously felt the need to put out the anti-Ferran point release immediately in response.

I haven't installed 1.5.9 myself yet. If it brings back my 1.5.8 problems, I'll be coming to SF with you. Bring another cricket bat, will ya?

Only the one cricket bat, I suppose I could dig up a golf club...

Im going to try turning off AGP acceleration and see if that does anything besides slow me way down =\

Ferran Brodsky

Better living through rum

Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

12-17-2004 01:08

Nope wasnt agp

edit -
trying full screen (may as well turn agp back on)

Ferran Brodsky

Better living through rum

Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

12-17-2004 01:18

ok changed 2 things this time.....

Full screen worked, I also turned down my fog distance from 4.0 to 3.2

it was up and running, switched to windowed... so far so good.

I dont want to have to do this everytime I log on

Ferran Brodsky

Better living through rum

Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

12-17-2004 01:28

seems stable so far, teleported fast no isues... relogging.....

Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

12-17-2004 01:31

From: Ferran Brodsky

seems stable so far, teleported fast no isues... relogging.....

Now you're just ASKING for trouble!!!

Seems stable.. teleported fast... no issues.. so what do you do?! LOG the hell out!!!

Haven't you learned ANYTHING yet?! Sheesh...

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Aritus Anansi

Registered User

Join date: 1 Jul 2004

Posts: 21

12-17-2004 01:32

I have been crashing a lot since 1.5.8 and am crashing a lot still with 1.5.9 this morning as well. Before 1.5.8 I didn't crash at all.

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Jason Keegan

Registered User

Join date: 20 Apr 2004

Posts: 26

12-17-2004 02:22

I keep crashing, Its very annoying. 1.5.8 was fine but this latest update hes been horrid.

- Jason

Lecktor Hannibal

YOUR MOM

Join date: 1 Jul 2004

Posts: 6,734

12-17-2004 03:28

This would be the LL favoritism conspiracy in action. All 3 of the updates have been fine for me

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From: Khamon Fate

Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !

Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

12-17-2004 04:51

Mah crash on tp problem is back courtesy of 1.5.9

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

12-17-2004 04:57

From: Kris Ritter

Mah crash on tp problem is back courtesy of 1.5.9

and when I talk, too...

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Lecktor Hannibal

YOUR MOM

Join date: 1 Jul 2004

Posts: 6,734

12-17-2004 05:02

From: Kris Ritter

and when I talk, too...

I did have that with the first 1.5.8, I thought that was the issue with the chat opacity slider. Kris are you logging in as last location or home ? I finally logged in at home and requested a tp from a friend to the location desired and it finally settled down.

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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net '

From: Khamon Fate

Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !

Jim Levy

Registered User

Join date: 18 Jun 2004

Posts: 24

1.5.9 makes me crash bad

12-17-2004 06:08

Sighs....ive never had problems, now 1.5.9 crash crash crash....sighs

Ingrid Ingersoll

Archived

Join date: 10 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,601

12-17-2004 06:18

It's Friday morning. I'm no where near SL but was wondering if people are having the same trouble this morning as they were last night. Anyone?

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paulie Femto

Into the dark

Join date: 13 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,098

crashes suck

12-17-2004 06:18

have yall tried clearing your cache? that sometimes helps when installing a new version. that or an uninstall /reinstall of sl. the cache folder is hidden under c:\documents and settings\username\application settings\second life\ (with username being your logged in username, natch).

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

12-17-2004 06:27

From: paulie Femto

have yall tried clearing your cache? that sometimes helps when installing a new version. that or an uninstall /reinstall of sl. the cache folder is hidden under c:\documents and settings\username\application settings\second life\ (with username being your logged in username, natch).

I always do a full uninstall/reinstall. Doesnt help.

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Ingrid Ingersoll

Archived

Join date: 10 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,601

12-17-2004 06:31

From: Kris Ritter

I always do a full uninstall/reinstall. Doesnt help.

crud. I guess it won't be any better for me then either.

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Ferran Brodsky

Better living through rum

Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

12-17-2004 07:08

Do you guys have fast UI checked on in the debug?

try turning it off, and starting in full screen, then switching back to windowed after about 5 mins seems to do it for me.... If you usualy start full screen try starting windowed then switching....

It may be a "superstition" fix, but doing that stopped my crash to desktop issues....

Failing that keep checking and unchecking stuff in the UI randomly, who knows, may get lucky

Andrew Linden

Linden staff

Join date: 18 Nov 2002

Posts: 692

12-17-2004 10:59

Yes. I agree 1.5.9 is junk. You can blame me.

I realized this morning that it is all MY fault. I messed up when moving some version tags around on files that the other developers turned in. Basically, the crash-bug fix that was supposed to be in 1.5.9 never made it. Unfortunately, I (and a few others) tested it for a while and didn't crash

so we released it. Then this morning I was crashing all over!

We're currently testing 1.5.10 which, in addition to the fix that was supposed to be in 1.5.9, has some stuff that I was trying to avoid including into 1.5.9. Not because they are dangerous changes but because I was trying to minimize the changes that went into 1.5.9.

The good news is that Steve removed some unecessary resorting being done on objects with alha which will boost a few people's render FPS a little bit.

1.5.10 will be out ASAP, probably around noon (Pacific) today.

Sorry about the inconvenience.

1.5.9 is junk
Dazzo Street Registered User Join date: 1 Aug 2004 Posts: 71	12-16-2004 17:47 i was fine up until this. i even updated all my drivers. what are you guys doing? SL gets less and less stable with every update. I cant play for more than 2 minutes now without crashing to desktop. I'm sick to death of sending the crash report. get new programmers. I'll be back when you get your $#@% squared away.
Hobonicus Engel Uncouth Vagrant Join date: 6 Nov 2004 Posts: 136	12-16-2004 17:56 1.5.9 IS junk. What is wrong with this? Why can I only log in for 2 minute increments while others seemingly have no problem? I'd love to work on my sculpture, but I CAN'T. I don't know what phantom "problem" 1.5.9 was supposed to fix; 1.5.8.3 worked fine for me.
Moleculor Satyr Fireflies! Join date: 5 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,650	12-16-2004 21:01 While I can't say that 1.5.9 is "junk" per se... I AM crashing when I teleport now. Joy overflows. Basically, I appear in the new location, my attachments start appearing, land starts appearing, a few prims near me start appearing, then.... BAM. Crash. WHEEEEEE. Joy overflows! _____________________ </sarcasm>
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	12-16-2004 21:06 Same here. Crash crash crash... i can't move without crashing. _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Daverab Czukor Second Life Resident Join date: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Crashing fun time 12-16-2004 22:05 At least some of you can get into the program. I lock up completely when I try to get into SL now. At least with 1.5.8 I could get to the 2 minute before crashing cycle. I don't know if multiple monitors would have anything to do with it, but this is honestly rediculous. Everything seems to be broken now. Updates should improve upon base things and not require some massive overhaul of hardware interfacing (or some other major thing) to the point where it causes people like us to completely loose the ability to stay in the program. Maybe we all have something in common. I'm using dual monitors on a Geforce 4 Ti4200 card on an AMD athlon system.
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	12-17-2004 00:49 I had it fixed in 1.58 after about 12 hours of crashing.... 1.5.9 brought it back =\ switching from windowed to full screen and back to windowed fixed it for me last time.... Now it isn't =\
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-17-2004 01:00 From: Ferran Brodsky I had it fixed in 1.58 after about 12 hours of crashing.... 1.5.9 brought it back =\ switching from windowed to full screen and back to windowed fixed it for me last time.... Now it isn't =\ ack It's a Linden conspiracy, Ferran. Against you. See 1.5.9 only came out after you said you were finally ok with 1.5.8. They obviously felt the need to put out the anti-Ferran point release immediately in response. I haven't installed 1.5.9 myself yet. If it brings back my 1.5.8 problems, I'll be coming to SF with you. Bring another cricket bat, will ya? _____________________
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	12-17-2004 01:06 From: Kris Ritter ack It's a Linden conspiracy, Ferran. Against you. See 1.5.9 only came out after you said you were finally ok with 1.5.8. They obviously felt the need to put out the anti-Ferran point release immediately in response. I haven't installed 1.5.9 myself yet. If it brings back my 1.5.8 problems, I'll be coming to SF with you. Bring another cricket bat, will ya? Only the one cricket bat, I suppose I could dig up a golf club... Im going to try turning off AGP acceleration and see if that does anything besides slow me way down =\
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	12-17-2004 01:08 Nope wasnt agp edit - trying full screen (may as well turn agp back on)
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	12-17-2004 01:18 ok changed 2 things this time..... Full screen worked, I also turned down my fog distance from 4.0 to 3.2 it was up and running, switched to windowed... so far so good. I dont want to have to do this everytime I log on
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	12-17-2004 01:28 seems stable so far, teleported fast no isues... relogging.....
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-17-2004 01:31 From: Ferran Brodsky seems stable so far, teleported fast no isues... relogging..... Now you're just ASKING for trouble!!! Seems stable.. teleported fast... no issues.. so what do you do?! LOG the hell out!!! Haven't you learned ANYTHING yet?! Sheesh... _____________________
Aritus Anansi Registered User Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 21	12-17-2004 01:32 I have been crashing a lot since 1.5.8 and am crashing a lot still with 1.5.9 this morning as well. Before 1.5.8 I didn't crash at all. _____________________ RCR Racing Dosojin 124,15: Race radio controlled cars around specially designed circuits. Visit the Pit Shop to buy your own RC cars and accessories. Also available for purchase on-line: SecondServer Want to resell RCR products with a 10% commission? Contact me for details of my RESELLER VENDOR
Jason Keegan Registered User Join date: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 26	12-17-2004 02:22 I keep crashing, Its very annoying. 1.5.8 was fine but this latest update hes been horrid. - Jason
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	12-17-2004 03:28 This would be the LL favoritism conspiracy in action. All 3 of the updates have been fine for me _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-17-2004 04:51 Mah crash on tp problem is back courtesy of 1.5.9 _____________________
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-17-2004 04:57 From: Kris Ritter Mah crash on tp problem is back courtesy of 1.5.9 and when I talk, too... _____________________
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	12-17-2004 05:02 From: Kris Ritter and when I talk, too... I did have that with the first 1.5.8, I thought that was the issue with the chat opacity slider. Kris are you logging in as last location or home ? I finally logged in at home and requested a tp from a friend to the location desired and it finally settled down. _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
Jim Levy Registered User Join date: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 24	1.5.9 makes me crash bad 12-17-2004 06:08 Sighs....ive never had problems, now 1.5.9 crash crash crash....sighs
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	12-17-2004 06:18 It's Friday morning. I'm no where near SL but was wondering if people are having the same trouble this morning as they were last night. Anyone? _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	crashes suck 12-17-2004 06:18 have yall tried clearing your cache? that sometimes helps when installing a new version. that or an uninstall /reinstall of sl. the cache folder is hidden under c:\documents and settings\username\application settings\second life\ (with username being your logged in username, natch). _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	12-17-2004 06:27 From: paulie Femto have yall tried clearing your cache? that sometimes helps when installing a new version. that or an uninstall /reinstall of sl. the cache folder is hidden under c:\documents and settings\username\application settings\second life\ (with username being your logged in username, natch). I always do a full uninstall/reinstall. Doesnt help. _____________________
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	12-17-2004 06:31 From: Kris Ritter I always do a full uninstall/reinstall. Doesnt help. crud. I guess it won't be any better for me then either. _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	12-17-2004 07:08 Do you guys have fast UI checked on in the debug? try turning it off, and starting in full screen, then switching back to windowed after about 5 mins seems to do it for me.... If you usualy start full screen try starting windowed then switching.... It may be a "superstition" fix, but doing that stopped my crash to desktop issues.... Failing that keep checking and unchecking stuff in the UI randomly, who knows, may get lucky
Andrew Linden Linden staff Join date: 18 Nov 2002 Posts: 692	12-17-2004 10:59 Yes. I agree 1.5.9 is junk. You can blame me. I realized this morning that it is all MY fault. I messed up when moving some version tags around on files that the other developers turned in. Basically, the crash-bug fix that was supposed to be in 1.5.9 never made it. Unfortunately, I (and a few others) tested it for a while and didn't crash so we released it. Then this morning I was crashing all over! We're currently testing 1.5.10 which, in addition to the fix that was supposed to be in 1.5.9, has some stuff that I was trying to avoid including into 1.5.9. Not because they are dangerous changes but because I was trying to minimize the changes that went into 1.5.9. The good news is that Steve removed some unecessary resorting being done on objects with alha which will boost a few people's render FPS a little bit. 1.5.10 will be out ASAP, probably around noon (Pacific) today. Sorry about the inconvenience.

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