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Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-24-2005 13:37
Trying to start SL in linux. I get this error or w.e it is below. Any other linux user's getting this, kno howto fix it, or have SL working?

For language 'en' several language ids were found:
en_US - 0409; en_GB - 0809; en_AU - 0C09; en_CA - 1009; en_NZ - 1409; en_IE - 1809; en_ZA - 1C09; en_JM - 2009; en_ - 2409; en_BZ - 2809; en_TT - 2C09;
Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US
Karsten Rutledge
Linux User
Join date: 8 Feb 2005
Posts: 841
10-24-2005 13:51
No, I'm just getting 'You're not in 32-bit mode, even though 24-bit in Xorg really is 32-bit, so fuck you and fuck your pallette, how about some psychadelic colors?' This is under Cedega 4.4.2, it won't start under 3.3.2-1 like 1.6 did.
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Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-24-2005 13:56
Care to email me Cedega 4.4.2 @ [email]phoenixbyrd@gmail.com[/email], or a link where I can get it? I'll be ur sl slave :P
Karsten Rutledge
Linux User
Join date: 8 Feb 2005
Posts: 841
10-24-2005 14:01
You can download it from transgaming.org. Won't help you any, though. It just fucks your pallette and crashes. SecondLife has never worked under it, I always ran 1.5 and 1.6 under WineX 3.3.2-1.
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Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
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10-24-2005 14:06
yea, I been using winex too, that's the error or w.e it give's me when i try tho. The linden's need to hurry with that linux client.
Karsten Rutledge
Linux User
Join date: 8 Feb 2005
Posts: 841
10-24-2005 14:17
The sad part is I don't even get an error under WineX 3.3.2-1. It gets to allocating AGP memory then is like 'Whoops, I'm not running anymore. Ho ho.'
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Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-24-2005 14:51
well.. If I can't figure it out, no other linux user has yet, then w.e .. I'm not installing a shitty OS for a game where I might be losing the only thing that kept me there. A note to all the pussy's in SL... Don't hide behind other ppl's back's EXPECTING them to fight ur fight's. Finnish ur own shit or MUTE HER! Thanx alot buddy. If u ever read this. Fucking wanker
Karsten Rutledge
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Join date: 8 Feb 2005
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10-24-2005 14:54
Um, okay. That was random.
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Zonax Delorean
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Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 767
10-24-2005 16:27
Does SecondLife.exe -ignorepixeldepth help?

Running Second Life under WineX/Linux has been an inferior experience in 1.6, too (no full screen, many times crashes), but it was good not to always have to dual-boot to Windows.

I'm sad to hear if SL 1.7 doesn't even start up on Linux :-(

Linden Labs promised a Linux client for SL 1.7-1.8, but then they have promised a Linux client from almost the beginning (around 2004?), so it's probably NOT to be expected in a year or so. SL 1.7 is about 2-3 months late, which makes things even worse :-(
Osgeld Barmy
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Join date: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 3,336
10-24-2005 16:34
i saw a artile saying linux support by the end of 2003
Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
10-24-2005 16:35
From: Osgeld Barmy
i saw a artile saying linux support by the end of 2003

LOL! Where?
Heuvadoches Naumova
Equus Exoticus
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 174
10-24-2005 16:37
The original poster mistyped that, he/she meant to say "3003" not "2003".

That is all.
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Zonax Delorean
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Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 767
10-24-2005 16:56
Hmm I can swear I posted the following somewhere in the forums, but I can't seem to find/confirm it, lol :-)

Oh yeah, this is for version 1.6. I would try version 1.7, but the grid is offline/login problems prevent that. (It gets to the "logging in, please wait" screen, though)

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A revised guide to SL on Linux

Introduction
It's been a while since I last wrote my Linux Guide, and in the meantime, things have changed. LL's begun work in earnest with their own Linux Client. But, for the next 6 months, Transgaming's WineX still remains the optimal solution. In this guide, we hope to take you through the steps of getting SL setup on a Linux machine.

Some notes

* ATI compatibility with WineX can be shaky. This is mostly due to the poor quality of availible drivers for ATI chipsets. We will discuss some workarounds later on.
* You should be running a 2.6 kernel with the latest ATI/nVidia drivers installed.
* Icculus Linden is the one doing the port to Linux, and no - he doesnt need testers yet, so dont bother him. LL will announce when they need testers. ;)
* I strongly recommend getting a copy of WineX 3.3 from Transgaming via Point2Play. This will require a transgaming subscription however (which is $5/month for download access). We will discuss another source for getting WineX 3.2 below, however installing Second Life will take another step, which we will not discuss in detail.

Requirements
What you are going to need to run Second Life on Linux, and still be able to play. (These are recommended, not minimum specs, it's possible to run lower)

* 2Ghz Pentium 4, or equivilent.
* 512MB Physical Memory, 1GB Optimal.
* GeForce 3 or higher
* Network connection, capable of 256kbps or higher.
* WineX 3.2 or 3.3
* With either Cedega + Point2Play, or WINE, or Crossover Office.
* 2.6 Linux Kernel or greater
* Latest ATI or nVidia drivers with GLX support
* XOrg6.8.1 or XFree equivilent
* 24-bit display (16bit and lower will not work)

Getting started
This section is going to assume you have a transgaming account, and Point2Play installed. If you have neither, skip down to the second part of this section.

If you have Point2Play installed

* Download the latest Secondlife-X-XX.exe from the website.
* Using Point2Play, install the latest version of Cedega and WineX3.
* Click 'Install' and point it to your copy of the Second Life install executable, select your latest version of Cedega to handle the install.
* When the installer loads (this usually takes about 30 seconds before anything appears), the release notes will be missing. This is normal. Click install, and follow the prompts as usual.
* Now that Second Life is installed, select 'Configure' and change it from Cedega to the latest version of WineX 3.3.
* Run Second Life once, it will crash or freeze on startup - let it go. It should now have created a folder in your WineX c_drive folder. (This is normally ~/.point2play/Second Life/c_drive/) called ~/.point2play/Second Life/c_drive/windows/Application Data/SecondLife/user_settings/ - inside here there is a file called 'settings.ini'. Search for the line marked 'Fullscreen = true' and change it to 'Fullscreen = false'.
* Restart Second Life, and try loading it again, it should now work correctly.

If you dont have Point2Play installed, and presumably dont have a transgaming account

* Download http://www.fetedinnercore.com/sl/winex-3-3-2.zip and unzip it into a directory of your choice. Run the following from a commandline, inside the directory concerned. (You will need to run the command as root, use su first)

./configure && make && make install && make clean
* Download and install WINE from http://www.winehq.com
* Download the latest SecondLife-X-XX.exe from the Second Life website.
* Install Second Life using WINE, transfer the data files to your WineX c_drive directory.
* Run Second Life once, wait for it to crash.
* Edit the C:\Documents and Settings\XYZ\Application Data\Second Life\user_settings\settings.ini file (inside your configured WineX C_drive), change "Fullscreen = true" to "Fullscreen = false" inside this file.
* Restart Second Life, and try loading it again, it should now work.

Troubleshooting
Sadly the above procedure does fail with frequency. It's now time to start debugging what's gone wrong.

"Second Life is running extremely slow". Run `glxgears` on the commandline, and check you are getting over 500fps. If you are not, your OpenGL accelleration isnt working right. Reinstall your drivers. With nVidia, check nVidia-GLX is setup right, and that Enable GLX is in your xorg.conf / XFree86Config.

Error message "Second Life must be run in 32-bit colour". This message most commonly appears with ATI drivers, add -ignorepixeldepth into your Second Life commandline switches. If it now crashes on startup, or still shows that message, double check you are running at 24-bit colour, then try upgrading your ATI / nVidia drivers, if this fails to work. Upgrade to XOrg 6.8.1 if it is availible in your distrobution.

My screen has gone into a myriad of funky colours! This happens when you try run Second Life in Cedega. Dont. Use WineX 3.X instead.

Second Life crashes on startup without any message, or fails to load. This one is a hard one to track down, however a few pointers can be checking you have a 2.6 kernel, have a recent version of WineX, and that you have appropriate permissions set. Running WineX in debug / verbose mode can give you some indicators. as to what's happening. I believe the issue has been fixed, however reports up to 1.6.5 have indicated renaming SecondLife.exe to newview.exe can sometimes allow Second Life to run.

-Adam
Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-24-2005 17:43
THANK YOU! I changed SecondLife.exe to newview.exe ... works. thanx man
Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-24-2005 18:18
Even tho I can't login just yet, the client itself seem's extremly slow when I open it (without trying to login) :/
Karsten Rutledge
Linux User
Join date: 8 Feb 2005
Posts: 841
10-24-2005 19:01
Sadly, I've tried all of that already. Been running SL since 1.5 in Feb. When 1.6 preview came out it wouldn't work at all, but 1.6 final worked fine. I couldn't use 1.7 preview either, sadly the trend stopped there. With WineX 3.3.2-1 it gets to the point of allocating AGP memory, and I get the little 'Loading Second Life...' dialog pop up and go away, and then nothing. It's just not running anymore. No error messages or anything.

As a temporary solution, I'm loading up an unused P4 3ghz HT/1gig DC RAM machine I had in a closet downstairs to run SecondLife until this gets sorted. Going to need a new video card for it though, crappy builtin Intel graphics is all it has right now.
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Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-24-2005 19:44
bleh. I won't let the linden's force me to use window's or a mac. They need to get a friggin linux client out like they've promised forever now. Quit f-ing with our head's and just give it to us or tell us ur not doing it. No more, oh, maybe this update, no ... next update. How about giving linux user's they're own forum as a sign of good faith??? Mac user's can play sl now, they got a forum. We've been playing longer before them WITHOUT any support. Atleast give us our own forum so us user's can help each other out. Since you've long since decided linux user's aren't important enough for a linux client...
SR Puff
Future Vulpinist Dictator
Join date: 14 Jul 2005
Posts: 22
10-24-2005 21:06
After upgrading my client code to 1.7, SL didn't want to load for me at all. But after changing my winex config to emulate "win98" instead of "winxp," I can now load the client. I'm still having trouble logging in; I'll let you know if/when/how I get through this problem.
Karsten Rutledge
Linux User
Join date: 8 Feb 2005
Posts: 841
10-24-2005 21:24
I tried that also, but got the same result. If you're using Point2Play, mind posting all of your options from the General and Graphics tabs in configuration?
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Karsten Rutledge
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10-24-2005 21:40
Oh, I have the client launching now. I'm expecting the login problems are not our problem currently.
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TheCrypto Doctorow
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Join date: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 6
Some Progress
10-24-2005 21:42
I am currently using Wine from Gentoo, version 20050930. I don't know if one of the patches they apply is what's helping but the program is starting. I can log in. It's just that after being online for a few minutes, the bandwidth usage drops to 0. My avatar can't move anymore and if I click on Friends or Find or anything that looks up stuff on the network it crashes hard.

The main problem that wine seems to be reporting is from the FMOD subsystem. It's seems to be trying to play the stream even though I have audio set on mute. The exact error I get is

WARNING Could not load data 'c:\windows\profiles\thecrypto\Application Data\SecondLife\cache\4c8c3c77-de8d-bde2-b9b8-32635e0fd4a6.dsf': This command failed because FSOUND_Init was not called

It seems to be looking better now so I hope to start seeing some more linux users in world. Can't wait for an offical client thought.

UPDATE: I have been in SL almost an hour, talked to people even and moved around without dropping. I just hand to enable sound support in Wine. Vanilla wine with the gentoo patches does work. Along with -nopixeldepth
Phoenix Byrd
Monkeh
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 77
10-25-2005 01:43
I was able to log in too, but nothing loads, can't move, button's take a full 30 seconds to one minute after being clicked to respond, typing is like having local chat lag :P What did u ppl do that screwed it up for us linux user's?
cream Bailly
Registered User
Join date: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 12
yuck!
10-25-2005 05:31
after a whole day of waiting to return to SL 1.7 they give me an extra thing that should be installed. Yep! I got on alright BUT...If I take one step I crash...continually...bring back the old version least I could play the game. 1.7 is of NO use if you can't walk
cream Bailly
Registered User
Join date: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 12
cmon
10-25-2005 05:39
7 crashes within minutes is taking it's toll here, can I get some help?
cream Bailly
Registered User
Join date: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 12
thank you
10-25-2005 09:00
thank you harry linden for all your patience and helping us. You are an asset to Second Life! *kudos*
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