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If you had 1 question for Linden, what would it be?

Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 649
12-29-2006 13:24
From: Sindy Tsure
My question would be: will land owners ever be able to ban based on something like MAC address or some other kind of hard(ish) ID? Some kind of "ban this user and everybody else who is on their hardware" type deal.

It's just too easy for people to create an alt (or 20) and come right back. If LL wants to enable people to do their own enforcement of community standards, I think something like this is a must-have. It might not be a perfect solution but it would go a long way towards cutting down on how much work land owners and admins spend dealing with the same bozos, over and over.


They do. I know. Nuff said. My friend had alot of explaining to do to get her account back. LOL

EDIT ack nvm though you mean LL have this. Most likyl residents never will cause it would violate the TOS and cause discrimination by association. Which is what happened to my friend kinda. LL banned them by accident cause ONCE they share the same IP (equal to griefer visitng her in RL.) Once LL determined they were in not only seperate states, timezones, and coasts they reactivated her account which had a clean record.
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
12-29-2006 15:56
sighs when will flamers get the treatmenat they deserve?
looks pointedly at strife

pay no mind to jaques and the other one, then haven had thier pablum ie SL all night and are just as irritated, they feel acting superior makes them more important. ignore them and dont respond to them and they will go away.


as to my question, i would probably ask the same thing: When will LL actually take the time to fix or just repair the main bugs, meaning bugs that are consistant and have been for a while, and stop with adding unneeded and unasked for features?
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There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 4,103
12-29-2006 17:27
Part of the problem with these "bugs" that we keep seeing over and over is that they're not really bugs - they're symptoms.

They might have fixed 20 different bugs that can all cause a TP failure in the last few updates.. Until the fix all of them (unlikely to ever happen on something as big as SL) we're going to still see them. The best that can be done is to get the ones that cause the TP failure symptom to happen a lot.
Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
12-29-2006 19:53
From: someone
Ok my question is why can't they fix what is wrong?
There comes a point in some software development where the code has gotten so complicated and intertwined that:
  1. No person can fit the whole system in their head
  2. Changes here have mysterious effects there
  3. The system begins to exhibit emergent properties that no one understands or even knows about
etc. SL has been in that state for years. Software in this state often cannot be salvaged but must be re-written based on all the experience gained from the first mess.

Recommended reading: The Mythical Man Month. Of note this book, first published in 1975 has a picture of animals ensnared in a tar-pit on the cover. SL has always been a Pilot Plant as described in the link above:
When designing a new kind of system, a team will design a throw-away system (whether it intends to or not). This system acts as a pilot plant that will reveal techniques which will subsequently cause a complete redesign of the system. This second smarter system should be the one delivered to the customer, since delivery of the pilot system would cause nothing but agony to the customer, and possibly ruin the system's reputation and maybe even the company's.
Alas, this is probably not required reading at LL.
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Jacques Groshomme
Registered User
Join date: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 355
12-29-2006 22:41
From: Bannock Ogg
Ok my question is why cant they fix what is wrong?

And if you think I am a spoiled Brat and making threats you need to get a life. And yes there is a way to fix it right and yes the bugs can be fixed all at once. And if they can not, since you know so much, why is it that games like the ones owned by Blizzard or NCplaysoft have combined together over 300 million residence and not 1/2 they issues that are in SL.



I agree they need to fix what is wrong. Everybody agrees. It's obvious.

Unfortunately, things take time to develop. The system is so out of whack now that major portions of it are in the process of being completely rearchitected. This doesn't happen over night. It's been in the works for months.

Ultimately, I see this as a business failure rather than a technical failure. At 5,000 concurrent residents, they new they had a stability problem, so they took steps to fix it. They planned and are still developing and nearing rollout of major new processes. Unfortunately, in the meantime, Philip and the C-Level business/marketing/VC guys decided to open the floodgates. The result was an exponential growth that the sytem couldn't support. At that point, it became inevitable.

And to bring Blizzard and NCSoft into this is unfair because those worlds aren't nearly as technically demanding as SecondLife. They only need to track avatar movement. Textures and landscape are already local. And there is no way in hell those games have 300 Million residents. 5% of the Earth's population simply does not play WoW and Lineage and CoH/V.
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