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Mina Welesa

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Join date: 19 Dec 2004

Posts: 228

05-15-2005 19:46

I spend more per month on things I don't even remember buying, so what I spend on SL is not a huge issue... I don't care about a refund.

I'm just anxious to have things work reliably again, and after reading the Linden's more comprehensive explanation in the forum tonight, I'm feeling more confident that they will resolve things. I'm excercisng more patience right now, playing when I get lucky and doing something else when I can't log in.

Magnum Serpentine

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Join date: 20 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,811

05-15-2005 20:18

From: Lordfly Digeridoo

The lindens know they have a problem. They are fixing it. They are aware that it is a bummer that you can't log in. Unless they're dumb as a box of rocks, I think they grasped that.. mm... 2 days ago. Continuing to verbally harrass them doesn't get their job done any faster.

Why are you? The problem is that SL is growing faster than they expected. The solution is to spend a LOT OF TIME rewriting the ENTIRE BACKEND of the system so that you and your friends can continue being blingy and dancy and bandwidthy.

It takes TIME. and EFFORT. And usually people work better when there aren't 400 angry, ignorant people threatening all sorts of verbal and physical attacks on you and your family.

People can do it in a more polite manner than they are doing now. A simple, concise, polite, non-condescending letter would get better mileage than "OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" on a public forum.

No, because if you're stupid enough to put water in your tank to begin with, maybe the gas station isn't the problem... you can't smell the gas fumes when you take the nozzle off the hook?

Putting water in your tank is a much more serious situation than not being able to log into an entertainment medium.

Perhaps, but I wouldn't be yelling at them, demanding some sort of compensation, blaming them for all available problems, and so on.

No, I'd probably laugh, because "try a different fuel grade" is a REALLY great response to "I filled my gas tank with water."

Patience in all things.

LF

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No where in the release notes for the repair tommorow, is there any mention of a repair for the Log In. Its not there. not at all.

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iDream Rebel

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Join date: 10 Mar 2005

Posts: 33

05-15-2005 20:43

I’ve never really liked these things like SL, they generate too much bull shit, but I still pop on them now and then to see if things change.

I believe in general if a person wants to complain they paid for the right to do just that ££$££, this is not a free prevlage we have here, we pay for this dumb thing.

Sadly I do not think the majority of people’s frustrations, and disappointment is directly related to just the bugs in SL, its SL as a whole, and these bugs are the trimmings on the cake, the cork on the bottle.

What needs to be done, is a damn serious look on SL community as a whole, and actually see why people are not truly happy.

I can pin point a few areas in SL world, that have a negative effect on people as a whole over time, but I just cannot be arsed to discus it, its so damn obvious I shouldn’t need too, and ill only get some bull shit, big headed attitude back about it.

I don’t normally talk this fluidly, but it fits in with SL's feel.

Anyway, that’s my rant..

Mike

Victoria Caligari

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Join date: 25 Apr 2005

Posts: 9

The Bottom Line is Money

05-15-2005 22:15

The bottom line here is money. Money that we pay/month to play at least some of us. Some of us pay more than others. But even if you are paying just the $10 a month fee you should get what you pay for. on the other technical difficulties are bound to arise. I believe that it would be a good idea to offer some sort of compensation to the problem if not real money then maybe in $L. It won't come out of anyone's pocket if you give it in $L The ranting and raving won't really get you anywhere and I've done my fair share of it as well. Oh well who really cares what i think anyway lol.

Chris Byrne

Broccoli Chef

Join date: 21 Mar 2004

Posts: 57

happy I logged into test and played...

05-15-2005 22:19

Happy happy, joy joy - think I might get in soon an find out what this tringo stuff is all bout lmao

YadNi Monde

Junkyard Owner

Join date: 30 Mar 2004

Posts: 189

"OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978"

05-15-2005 22:53

"OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978"

ROFLOLMFAOMUAHAHAH

I SO LOVE THIS SENTENCE !!! Makes me fold on my seat, head shaking over my keyboard, belly hurting like hell!!!

Erm, ok so, maybe just one thing to the unhappy people: If you are not sure, i mean absolutely sure that SL is the best place to be when you are online, just move on to a mmorpg, i m not sure we need you.

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Keman Dingo

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Posts: 24

05-16-2005 08:55

Translation:

I'm better than you are, hah hah hah! Oh look, someone else who thinks they're better than this other group is, I'm best friends with them now, together we'll be better than them, yeah!

... gimme a break. Making fun of hacks0r speak. Wow aren't you too cool!

Still doesn't address the issue. I'm still paying money for a deliverable that isn't being delivered. You can tell me to shut up all you want, you can agree to disagree with my opinions all you want. You don't have monetary dollars backing up your statements, you don't have a financial department breathing down your throat because you don't have a business struggling to survive in a dog-eat-dog market. You're not LL, you're not part of the problem, you're not part of the solution. You are however the most saught after customer. If the market was full of people like you, I could make a killing selling absolute crap and you'd eat every bit of it with a smile.

So. Lets get back to addressing the problem.. of oh.. not being able to log in to the serivce we pay real money for.

Keman Dingo

From: YadNi Monde

"OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978"

ROFLOLMFAOMUAHAHAH

I SO LOVE THIS SENTENCE !!! Makes me fold on my seat, head shaking over my keyboard, belly hurting like hell!!!

Erm, ok so, maybe just one thing to the unhappy people: If you are not sure, i mean absolutely sure that SL is the best place to be when you are online, just move on to a mmorpg, i m not sure we need you.

For the others, the following signature

Dianne Mechanique

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Join date: 28 Mar 2005

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05-16-2005 09:45

From: Keman Dingo

... This is the driving force of the market... (lots of serious business stuff deleted)...

I would like to complain about this complaint about people complaining about those who are complaining to much. It's just too much.
And too complainy.

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Shelly LeMay

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First Of All Im Spending Real Money...

05-16-2005 12:44

Maybe The Complainers Didnt Have Their Biggest Dwell Day Interrupted By These Problems , Lose Money, Lose Vendors Etc. When U Post And Event And Not Even Ur Hosts Can Get In, Wth Do U Do?....complain Its All We Have,we Cant Storm The Lab, Or Fix It Ourselves,...so We Complain.....its Our Right...its Our Money That Is Being Lost
Someone With Big Dwell May Think Ohhhh Its Ok...but Not Me ,its Been Rough Enough.....gimmmmme My Game Baaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!! And What About Us That Are Adddictedddddd Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Cherry Wolfe

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Join date: 28 Dec 2004

Posts: 3

omg

05-16-2005 12:57

half of you are curssing the lindens half of you are defending them like they are your children...i believe a little forward thinking could have kept this from happening...and as to someone saying the cable and satalite companies dont compensate for loss of service i beg to differ if you demand it they do!

im annoyed like everyone else who cant log but i wont curse anyone out seeing as how im not one of the people who are paying real money for land fees, but if i were i would be lets say a bit hot under the collar and demanding compensation.

so this fix seems not to have fixed anything seeing as the highest count of people in world i have seen is 356 today *sigh*

and for you all you are defending the lindens dont bother attacking my post because i probably will never find it in the sea of posts lol

Red Mars

What?

Join date: 5 Feb 2004

Posts: 469

05-16-2005 13:10

From: Lordfly Digeridoo

The lindens know they have a problem. They are fixing it. They are aware that it is a bummer that you can't log in. Unless they're dumb as a box of rocks, I think they grasped that.. mm... 2 days ago. Continuing to verbally harrass them doesn't get their job done any faster.

Why are you? The problem is that SL is growing faster than they expected. The solution is to spend a LOT OF TIME rewriting the ENTIRE BACKEND of the system so that you and your friends can continue being blingy and dancy and bandwidthy.

It takes TIME. and EFFORT. And usually people work better when there aren't 400 angry, ignorant people threatening all sorts of verbal and physical attacks on you and your family.

People can do it in a more polite manner than they are doing now. A simple, concise, polite, non-condescending letter would get better mileage than "OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" on a public forum.

No, because if you're stupid enough to put water in your tank to begin with, maybe the gas station isn't the problem... you can't smell the gas fumes when you take the nozzle off the hook?

Putting water in your tank is a much more serious situation than not being able to log into an entertainment medium.

Perhaps, but I wouldn't be yelling at them, demanding some sort of compensation, blaming them for all available problems, and so on.

No, I'd probably laugh, because "try a different fuel grade" is a REALLY great response to "I filled my gas tank with water."

Patience in all things.

LF

Do you ever get tired of that patronizing superior attitude? Just curious.

BTW, complaining about problems does do a little good. If enough people do it long and loud enough LL might think, "Hey, maybe we can't string them along much farther with repetitions of 'Soon', we better fix this and toot quick"

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Lordfly Digeridoo

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Join date: 21 Jul 2003

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05-16-2005 13:45

From: Red Mars

Do you ever get tired of that patronizing superior attitude? Just curious.

BTW, complaining about problems does do a little good. If enough people do it long and loud enough LL might think, "Hey, maybe we can't string them along much farther with repetitions of 'Soon', we better fix this and toot quick"

Yes, complaining and complaining and complaining does a fat lot of good, doesn't it?

Hey, look, everyone's been complaining flat out for 3 days now, and it's still not "fixed".

Boy, that worked wonders! Let's all march down to Sears and complain about their refrigerator arrangements!

My point is, everyone on this thread is either frothing at the mouth for monetary compensation, or for a linden to crawl on their hands and knees and kiss the customer's ass. I won't stand for it. The lindens are people too, they don't need to be yelled at like indolent children.

As for my superior attitude, I had no idea proper sentence construction made me elitist.

LF

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Jen Costello

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05-16-2005 17:19

It is true LL needs to be made aware of the problems with its game, especially when its something as huge as this login problem. But it does nobody any good to whine in pointless and just downright annoying threads. Write a nice polite post saying you are having problems. Also as has been said LL is not a mega-corperation, they are doing the best they can on a tight budget. They tried to make something great and they did, give them a break its nobodies fault, they had no way of knowing it would be so popular. Personally whiners would make me want to stop giving them the service at all

Derry McTeague

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Posts: 81

Negative Threads

06-30-2005 19:59

You know ive been reaing these forums occasionally when i come here searching for anwers to SL problems and have noticed this:
1.Someone or some people become angered about something or someone in SL (usually rightfully so).
2. They are so upset that they submit a forum to vent their anger in a civilized way.

3. People with the opposite view point get so enraged and intolerant of anothers view point and instead of submitting their viewpoint in a reply forum, they submit a thread to complain about the original negative thread that they say doesnt belong in the forums.

Is it their ego that they feel has been bruised? Is it that they are the ones that are just holding too much importance to SL in their lives? Or are they just intolerant and incapable of seeing others viewpoints?

I dont know what their reason are , but i wish people would understand that the forums are designed JUST FOR THAT! To openly discuss/debate problems, topics,relating to a thread. I know when i see something i dont like i reply with my view not openly attack the sender personally or complain they are being negative.

To all the people who want the complainers to shut up.
Mina Welesa Semi-retired Join date: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 228	05-15-2005 19:46 I spend more per month on things I don't even remember buying, so what I spend on SL is not a huge issue... I don't care about a refund. I'm just anxious to have things work reliably again, and after reading the Linden's more comprehensive explanation in the forum tonight, I'm feeling more confident that they will resolve things. I'm excercisng more patience right now, playing when I get lucky and doing something else when I can't log in.
Magnum Serpentine Registered User Join date: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,811	05-15-2005 20:18 From: Lordfly Digeridoo The lindens know they have a problem. They are fixing it. They are aware that it is a bummer that you can't log in. Unless they're dumb as a box of rocks, I think they grasped that.. mm... 2 days ago. Continuing to verbally harrass them doesn't get their job done any faster. Why are you? The problem is that SL is growing faster than they expected. The solution is to spend a LOT OF TIME rewriting the ENTIRE BACKEND of the system so that you and your friends can continue being blingy and dancy and bandwidthy. It takes TIME. and EFFORT. And usually people work better when there aren't 400 angry, ignorant people threatening all sorts of verbal and physical attacks on you and your family. People can do it in a more polite manner than they are doing now. A simple, concise, polite, non-condescending letter would get better mileage than "OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" on a public forum. No, because if you're stupid enough to put water in your tank to begin with, maybe the gas station isn't the problem... you can't smell the gas fumes when you take the nozzle off the hook? Putting water in your tank is a much more serious situation than not being able to log into an entertainment medium. Perhaps, but I wouldn't be yelling at them, demanding some sort of compensation, blaming them for all available problems, and so on. No, I'd probably laugh, because "try a different fuel grade" is a REALLY great response to "I filled my gas tank with water." Patience in all things. LF To all the members of the Star Chamber No where in the release notes for the repair tommorow, is there any mention of a repair for the Log In. Its not there. not at all. _____________________
iDream Rebel Member Join date: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 33	05-15-2005 20:43 I’ve never really liked these things like SL, they generate too much bull shit, but I still pop on them now and then to see if things change. I believe in general if a person wants to complain they paid for the right to do just that ££$££, this is not a free prevlage we have here, we pay for this dumb thing. Sadly I do not think the majority of people’s frustrations, and disappointment is directly related to just the bugs in SL, its SL as a whole, and these bugs are the trimmings on the cake, the cork on the bottle. What needs to be done, is a damn serious look on SL community as a whole, and actually see why people are not truly happy. I can pin point a few areas in SL world, that have a negative effect on people as a whole over time, but I just cannot be arsed to discus it, its so damn obvious I shouldn’t need too, and ill only get some bull shit, big headed attitude back about it. I don’t normally talk this fluidly, but it fits in with SL's feel. Anyway, that’s my rant.. Mike
Victoria Caligari Registered User Join date: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 9	The Bottom Line is Money 05-15-2005 22:15 The bottom line here is money. Money that we pay/month to play at least some of us. Some of us pay more than others. But even if you are paying just the $10 a month fee you should get what you pay for. on the other technical difficulties are bound to arise. I believe that it would be a good idea to offer some sort of compensation to the problem if not real money then maybe in $L. It won't come out of anyone's pocket if you give it in $L The ranting and raving won't really get you anywhere and I've done my fair share of it as well. Oh well who really cares what i think anyway lol.
Chris Byrne Broccoli Chef Join date: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 57	happy I logged into test and played... 05-15-2005 22:19 Happy happy, joy joy - think I might get in soon an find out what this tringo stuff is all bout lmao
YadNi Monde Junkyard Owner Join date: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 189	"OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" 05-15-2005 22:53 "OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" ROFLOLMFAOMUAHAHAH I SO LOVE THIS SENTENCE !!! Makes me fold on my seat, head shaking over my keyboard, belly hurting like hell!!! Erm, ok so, maybe just one thing to the unhappy people: If you are not sure, i mean absolutely sure that SL is the best place to be when you are online, just move on to a mmorpg, i m not sure we need you. For the others, the following signature _____________________ ---------------=If It S Not Primmy It S Not A YadNi=---------------- -=In a MMORPG u levelup a Character, in SL u levelup the User.=- ----------------=Your only limit is Your imagination.=-------------- ------------------------------------------- Yours, Friendly, Yadni =)
Keman Dingo Registered User Join date: 3 Jan 2005 Posts: 24	05-16-2005 08:55 Translation: I'm better than you are, hah hah hah! Oh look, someone else who thinks they're better than this other group is, I'm best friends with them now, together we'll be better than them, yeah! ... gimme a break. Making fun of hacks0r speak. Wow aren't you too cool! Still doesn't address the issue. I'm still paying money for a deliverable that isn't being delivered. You can tell me to shut up all you want, you can agree to disagree with my opinions all you want. You don't have monetary dollars backing up your statements, you don't have a financial department breathing down your throat because you don't have a business struggling to survive in a dog-eat-dog market. You're not LL, you're not part of the problem, you're not part of the solution. You are however the most saught after customer. If the market was full of people like you, I could make a killing selling absolute crap and you'd eat every bit of it with a smile. So. Lets get back to addressing the problem.. of oh.. not being able to log in to the serivce we pay real money for. Keman Dingo From: YadNi Monde "OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" ROFLOLMFAOMUAHAHAH I SO LOVE THIS SENTENCE !!! Makes me fold on my seat, head shaking over my keyboard, belly hurting like hell!!! Erm, ok so, maybe just one thing to the unhappy people: If you are not sure, i mean absolutely sure that SL is the best place to be when you are online, just move on to a mmorpg, i m not sure we need you. For the others, the following signature
Dianne Mechanique Back from the Dead Join date: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2,648	05-16-2005 09:45 From: Keman Dingo ... This is the driving force of the market... (lots of serious business stuff deleted)... I would like to complain about this complaint about people complaining about those who are complaining to much. It's just too much. And too complainy. _____________________ . black art furniture & classic clothing =================== Black in Neufreistadt Black @ ONE Black @ www.SLBoutique.com .
Shelly LeMay Registered User Join date: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 10	First Of All Im Spending Real Money... 05-16-2005 12:44 Maybe The Complainers Didnt Have Their Biggest Dwell Day Interrupted By These Problems , Lose Money, Lose Vendors Etc. When U Post And Event And Not Even Ur Hosts Can Get In, Wth Do U Do?....complain Its All We Have,we Cant Storm The Lab, Or Fix It Ourselves,...so We Complain.....its Our Right...its Our Money That Is Being Lost Someone With Big Dwell May Think Ohhhh Its Ok...but Not Me ,its Been Rough Enough.....gimmmmme My Game Baaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!! And What About Us That Are Adddictedddddd Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!
Cherry Wolfe Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 3	omg 05-16-2005 12:57 half of you are curssing the lindens half of you are defending them like they are your children...i believe a little forward thinking could have kept this from happening...and as to someone saying the cable and satalite companies dont compensate for loss of service i beg to differ if you demand it they do! im annoyed like everyone else who cant log but i wont curse anyone out seeing as how im not one of the people who are paying real money for land fees, but if i were i would be lets say a bit hot under the collar and demanding compensation. so this fix seems not to have fixed anything seeing as the highest count of people in world i have seen is 356 today sigh and for you all you are defending the lindens dont bother attacking my post because i probably will never find it in the sea of posts lol
Red Mars What? Join date: 5 Feb 2004 Posts: 469	05-16-2005 13:10 From: Lordfly Digeridoo The lindens know they have a problem. They are fixing it. They are aware that it is a bummer that you can't log in. Unless they're dumb as a box of rocks, I think they grasped that.. mm... 2 days ago. Continuing to verbally harrass them doesn't get their job done any faster. Why are you? The problem is that SL is growing faster than they expected. The solution is to spend a LOT OF TIME rewriting the ENTIRE BACKEND of the system so that you and your friends can continue being blingy and dancy and bandwidthy. It takes TIME. and EFFORT. And usually people work better when there aren't 400 angry, ignorant people threatening all sorts of verbal and physical attacks on you and your family. People can do it in a more polite manner than they are doing now. A simple, concise, polite, non-condescending letter would get better mileage than "OMFGWTFBBQ FIX IT OR I QUITZOR!!!!!!!11111111111111111234978" on a public forum. No, because if you're stupid enough to put water in your tank to begin with, maybe the gas station isn't the problem... you can't smell the gas fumes when you take the nozzle off the hook? Putting water in your tank is a much more serious situation than not being able to log into an entertainment medium. Perhaps, but I wouldn't be yelling at them, demanding some sort of compensation, blaming them for all available problems, and so on. No, I'd probably laugh, because "try a different fuel grade" is a REALLY great response to "I filled my gas tank with water." Patience in all things. LF Do you ever get tired of that patronizing superior attitude? Just curious. BTW, complaining about problems does do a little good. If enough people do it long and loud enough LL might think, "Hey, maybe we can't string them along much farther with repetitions of 'Soon', we better fix this and toot quick" _____________________
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	05-16-2005 13:45 From: Red Mars Do you ever get tired of that patronizing superior attitude? Just curious. BTW, complaining about problems does do a little good. If enough people do it long and loud enough LL might think, "Hey, maybe we can't string them along much farther with repetitions of 'Soon', we better fix this and toot quick" Yes, complaining and complaining and complaining does a fat lot of good, doesn't it? Hey, look, everyone's been complaining flat out for 3 days now, and it's still not "fixed". Boy, that worked wonders! Let's all march down to Sears and complain about their refrigerator arrangements! My point is, everyone on this thread is either frothing at the mouth for monetary compensation, or for a linden to crawl on their hands and knees and kiss the customer's ass. I won't stand for it. The lindens are people too, they don't need to be yelled at like indolent children. As for my superior attitude, I had no idea proper sentence construction made me elitist. LF _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
Jen Costello Registered User Join date: 15 May 2005 Posts: 4	05-16-2005 17:19 It is true LL needs to be made aware of the problems with its game, especially when its something as huge as this login problem. But it does nobody any good to whine in pointless and just downright annoying threads. Write a nice polite post saying you are having problems. Also as has been said LL is not a mega-corperation, they are doing the best they can on a tight budget. They tried to make something great and they did, give them a break its nobodies fault, they had no way of knowing it would be so popular. Personally whiners would make me want to stop giving them the service at all
Derry McTeague Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2005 Posts: 81	Negative Threads 06-30-2005 19:59 You know ive been reaing these forums occasionally when i come here searching for anwers to SL problems and have noticed this: 1.Someone or some people become angered about something or someone in SL (usually rightfully so). 2. They are so upset that they submit a forum to vent their anger in a civilized way. 3. People with the opposite view point get so enraged and intolerant of anothers view point and instead of submitting their viewpoint in a reply forum, they submit a thread to complain about the original negative thread that they say doesnt belong in the forums. Is it their ego that they feel has been bruised? Is it that they are the ones that are just holding too much importance to SL in their lives? Or are they just intolerant and incapable of seeing others viewpoints? I dont know what their reason are , but i wish people would understand that the forums are designed JUST FOR THAT! To openly discuss/debate problems, topics,relating to a thread. I know when i see something i dont like i reply with my view not openly attack the sender personally or complain they are being negative.

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