My Own Objects Returned To My Inventory?!?!?!?!

Okay, maybe I missed it, but can somebody please explain to me without doublespeak why the f*** my own objects on land that I "own" including my skybox are being returned to my inventory because of some jackass script kiddie who probably couldn't write real production code if his life depended on it?

Seriously... I have "run other scripts" and "create objects" turned off, yet the objects from the current grid attack are clearly running and propagating just fine. And they do not belong to anybody in *any* of my groups, but they clearly take priority over my own damned objects on my own damned land.

How the hell does a live production system come to have such a serious and crippling issue as this, especially one that's been there for as long as this one has? And what is going to be done about it?

How long will SL continue to be at risk of being crippled by just any freakin' ignorant idiot who learns about 10 minutes worth of LSL?

Ha ha ha

Maybe because LLabs found screwedup ( lets hope not ) but it seems that this is happening to many of us.............

Asian Please repect others!!!!!!!!!!!

Im sure the guy who did it will get a hardware ban just like the others that will try.

SL Offers lots of possibilities which is good, unfortunately because it is a game with such large possibilities there are lots of exploits there as well.

Im sure this can be blocked form happening however it will in the end limit our own possibilities in game.

That is precisely what I mean, Asia. Clearly people with little more intelligence than what is absolutely required to feed themselves can easily feel important and powerful because lsl and the SL Forums give them the ability to make themselves a really big pain in the ass to more than just the thankfully limited number people who have to tolerate their inane bullshit in real life.

I really hate to say this, because I know it's not what people want to hear, but the hardware ban is worthless and simply doesn't work

It's sufficient to keep honest people honest, but is easily circumvented.

WE NEED TO END UNLIMITED SIGNUP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LLABS WAKEUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At the very least we need some way to keep these unimaginative f**ktards from bringing the grid to it's knees every couple of days.

If that means cc-verification only, I would certainly support that!

I'd rather tell my friends and family "you can't get in because you don't have a credit card" than say "why don't you wait a while, because it's still too immature for prime time".

Always pay pal or gift cards are in small alotments....gesh 9.95 for a game is alot? If people have black hearts to start with then why even botehr with them in game

so was it peoples objects being returnd are just 1 object that was copying its self, i was 1 of the lucky ones who this didnt happen to, but if it was peopels objects, wow sims are goin to look like disaster zones, but i was just wondering if it was peopels objects are just the same object copyin its self

I'm not a fan of the gift card idea, I think it should be something with more credibility and the ability to have the law enforcement agencies trace it to a real person in case of a Denial of Service investigation.

But there are smartcards, credit cards, SMS, all kinds of ways that are possible.

Clearly that is not what LL wants, and I strongly believe that no matter how much people cry out for verification, no matter how many people quit because unverified jacktards abuse the poor SL security measures, no matter what, it will never ever happen.

Unless there is drastic and obvious attrition, nothing truly effective will ever be done. And I have full confidence that there will not be a mass exodus on that kind of scale.

We have had the same thing happen. Older items that should never be returned according to how the return process works ... has been sent to lost and found just as you spoke of. We have also had things completely vanish off land with no recovery as to where they went. The things returned to our inventory can not be rezzed out either due to data missing in system. Letters were sent to abuse and to support with a reply saying we do not support any loss you might experience in the SL game. Please possibly contact designers for a replacement as it doesn't cost them anything??????

Who is going to believe we took these losses .. would you???? with the amount of scamming that goes on.
Tis very sad not being able to keep our own inventory on our own puters ... in turn we become subject to these attacks and screwups. In the long run any loss we take .. were on our own..

We all can relate to the real money we spend as premium members along with thousands of dollars invested in the linden currencty .. Lndens turn off to any help or support in these situations without batting an eye.
Our inventory becomes an expensive commodity that over time is established thru real dollars ... I hate the fact that someone has that much control to run away with our hard earned money as Lindens do with us.

Wow .. we are the priviledged ones to join in a greatly advertised game .. that everyone seems to be dying to play. We lose to any flaws or screwups or attacks .. they can't protect their own servers from . And that is called FUN !!!!

We might as well put aside a certain amount of money each month and just flush it down the toilet. and then say... thank you Second Life .. I had a wonderful time !!!!!
I wonder how things would be run .. if the table was turned and no one paid lindens ...
Should we all send them an e-mail statng we do not support any loss you might take in the Second Life Game???? Maybe Contact a designer and ask them .. as it doesn't cost them anything !!!!!!

How much more will we endure ??????

I was referring to the fact that because the imbecile script kiddie's self-replicating objects had filled my parcel's prim limits, MY OWN objects were being returned to my inventory to make room on the land for SOMEONE ELSE's bullshit attack vector objects.

Is that bass-ackwords or what?

It was outlined by LLabs taht there is no really belief the CC system works.... But that reason to open up the flood walls and let all the jerks, anti socials, under 18 agers in the game?!!!!! Whatthe sence of even having a signup here if all you put in is BS information..........Hell just push OK fly in do your griefting and let the game die!.............I been a long time users of sl and like many i getting sick and tired the bs.

Ummmm, wtf!?!? That is what they say? what about the stuff we are trying to create for this so-called "user created" world? I can tell you right now that if the new products I was working on are gone and cannot be recovered, and that is the response I get from the Lindens, I am flat-out done.

That is an honest reponse we got in our e-mail I have kept it so I might be able to show it if anyone asks!!! Tis very sad ... I still do not understand how Lindens can turn their heads to ppl who spend real money here ... seems to be more and more of a one way street.
I work with public everyday in real .. it not easy sosmetimes to please everyone .. no matter how hard you try .. but we respect our customers and go to great lengths to accomidate them even if we have to give them a free service to show them we are concerned. After all they are the reasons we get our pay cheques.

I am also weary of this game .. and grow closer to giving up at times also. what can we do ??? except just quit ... would that change anything??? Probably not !!! We are one of thousands and probably for every one person who quits 5 noobs join !!!!

I am sure in the past 4 yrs of running this game the owners of it have made their money 20 fold !!

It is extremely bass-ackwards.

I have been working 5+ hours a day for WEEKS on creating some new stuff for SL that I am really excited about, hoping to make a measly amount of $L to help justify the hundreds of USD I spend on SL.

I simply cannot imagine ever logging in again if that work is gone and will not be recovered and I get a bs response like that. Oh man, that is the worst imaginable outcome.

I agree hun !!!! 100%
I am sick of the loss we have taken also .. I too have projects pending
I am tired and frustrated at it all and yes these are the justification I got straight from lindens and have the proof to show it,

I guess they could point the finger back at us sating we should be backing up often to we would have a recent copy of our work but .. like most designers you get beyond that when the creativity flows and excited to create the next step ... not easy to junk up your inventory with needless back ups of each piece in duplicate either

BUT !!!! again .. we are at a loss ... which ever way you look at it... Must be nice to be flawless ... or maybe just a Linden !!!!!!

/me sighs with relief....

Well, my initial checks do not show any obvious losses... I feel the stress reducing some

Backup up where exactly? They do not give any viable options for offline backups I backup all of my scripts religiously, but what about prim-based builds?

Well it appears that I did in fact lose several hours worth of work I am most unhappy. I'd rather lose hours than weeks, but then again I am not done checking

I am sorry for your loss ... wish these things didn't happen
backing up prims as in taking them into inventory as copies ... possibly naming them backup (item name) 1 then 2 then 3
but this just adds to the mess our inventories are in now !!!
Since this last attack and them rolling back .. my inventory is more freightning then ever.. as things I have sorted for hours are now spewed about the inventory and not even in folders any more...

this is another problem... spending the time to organize only to find it distorted and flung around once again.. the painful hours fighting lag and sorting the inventory .. is another loss .. when does it end ?????

We can't accept a few hours loss nor a few weeks... if we do it justifies their non support .. as they think we don't mind the abuse or grief they are causing us.. because we love the game so much and the more work and time we spend .. keeps us more bonded to it.. I think this is why they don't bother helping in many ways
They don't have to and they aren't fearing anything losing a few ppl because the addiction is stronger then the anguish !!!!

A catch 22 .. damned if ya do !!! damned if ya don't !!!!!

There are scripted objects littering the sim where I live, but those of us who have auto-return set (I keep mine to 1 minute) haven't been affected.

The best thing to do is turn off create, all scripts, and set auto return for 1 minute...

Having a little 'headroom' helps as well, aka pick up some prims yerself that you can replace later without too much difficulty.

This is a long standing bug where when a plot gets massively overloaded and the objects have already moved on, it somehow triggers the 'cleanup' routine, the routine runs but the 'offending' pile of spam objects has moved on, and it goes to delete the 'newest' object, but thats now the last thing *you* placed, or something like it...

The simplest way is give enough headroom that it won't overflow the plot and trigger the cleanup routine, and set autoreturn of a minute so there isn't too much chance of a buildup in the first place.

Though long term the cleanup code probably does need to be revised to make it less easily damaged.