PC purchase help.

My PC is pretty much on it's last legs and going out of date spec wise, and so I decided to have a look around for a replacement. After stumbling around on the net for a few hrs, I came across the following PC that I am seriously considering...

http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/review_nov05_matxtremepro.htm

It's fairly high endish, and so not too cheap. Is it worth paying out this much for a PC? If it is, is there any reason why I shouldn't go for this particular one? Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated

omg thats expensiveee

1. AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4800+ Dual Core Processor
   
2. yes very nice i have one ;P, they are also very quiet with qfan on.
   
3. Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
   
4. O.o s'ok
   
5. ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Mainboard
   
6. <3 Asus
   
7. 2048MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
   
8. 2 gig is very decent now, 1 gig is min nowadays!
   
9. 300GB Serial ATA (150Mb/s) HDD
   
10. \o approved
    
11. 256MB nVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX - PCI-Express
    
12. Your eyes will bleed ^^
    
13. 19" Viewsonic VX912 TFT Flat Panel LCD Monitor
    
14. warning for games especially the one wich has loots of movement (fps's) 12ms lcd isnt to good, 8> recommended, but not really thaaat big a deal unless you like to spazz very fast like i do in fps
    
15. -----------everything under here dont really matter that much they are ok--------
    
16. SONY 16x DVD-ROM
    
17. SONY 16x Dual Layer DVD-RW (R/W all standard formats)*
    
18. 5.1 Surround Sound 6 Channel Audio
    
19. Creative Inspire T7900 - 7.1 Surround Speakers
    
20. Internet Ready V.92 56Kbps data/fax/voice modem
    
21. Network Ready integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
    
22. Logitech Cordless Keyboard & Rechargeable Mouse
    
23. logitech eat batteries for breakfast ~.~ vary tho depends wich one they mean
    
24. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force Joystick
    
25. Microsoft Works 8.0 + CyberLink Video Editing (oem)
    
26. MESH Praetorian 732 Aluminium Midi Tower Case
    
27. Premier Warranty - 3yr Onsite (UK mainland only)
    

I gotto say tho, thats alot more then id want to pay for one, build one yourself youll get it cheaper, but if you dont have spare parts laying around, and got the money,,, youll love it

Thnx for your reply Thili The monitor, keyboard and mouse are not a problem, as I would use the ones I currently have

Do you mean it's expensive because it's pre-built, or expensive for a pre-build? I have a looked around, and I can't find cheaper for these specs. Maybe it's expensive as you're in a different country, and you have generally lower prices? It's possible to get PCs here for like a third of the price, but they're pretty much the same spec as I have now ie crap lol.

Aye we have nearly the same prices on computer stuff, im in norway, so we're taxed up the ying yang.

That cpu is pretty costly and 7800 GTX is also expensive, both are very very nice.

The x2-4800 cost like mad its over twice the cost as a x2-3800 where i live. (3150 vs 7495 ~.~in my currency)

Doesnt say what psu it has, but it better be 500w+ hehe , psu nowadays are sooo quiet when i changed mine i couldnt belive how i lived with the old i had, 32db vs 10-16db, buut then the vid card make more noise then anything now tho ~.~

Im pretty sure you could shave of quite abit building that self, cause of software / hardware / casing , you already have.

Lcd's are nice i use one myself, but my "old" 19"crt from samsung is heck ofalot better with colors and fast motions (weigh like a ton tho)

I could buy either one of these here:
2x19" Crt ::150£
1x19" Lcd 8ms :: 283£
1x21" Crt :: 310£

The thought of building it myself sends shivers down my spine tho

Sorry, but can you explain what psu is?

I also found a review on the PC..

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/77684/mesh-matrix-xtreme-pro.html

PSU - Power Supply Unit , the power for your entire pc, they eaat power thanks to PCI-e and AMD it has lowered tho, but im pretty sure they put in one that can run it ;P

Googler!

PSU ; Also called a power supply unit or PSU, the component that supplies power to a computer. Most personal computers can be plugged into standard electrical outlets. The power supply then pulls the required amount of electricity and converts the AC current to DC current. It also regulates the voltage to eliminate spikes and surges common in most electrical systems. Not all power supplies, however, do an adequate voltage-regulation job, so a computer is always susceptible to large voltage fluctuations.

Power supplies are rated in terms of the number of watts they generate. The more powerful the computer, the more watts it can provide to components.

im guessing 450-500w.

/shoot that webpage for giving me : In order to continue to view this site, we ask that you spend a few minutes to register with us.

I haaate having to register to post and read pages, i have like 500 aliases ;_;

Thnx Thili I'll look into what power supply it comes with. Usually if it's left off specs, it's for a reason hehe.

BTw, how much attention to you pay to forum reviews? I mean they can obviously be gamed pro and anti. But this thread seems pretty bad, certainly given me the jitters...

http://www.romulus2.com/feedback/company.php?33

edited to add: have also found 2 websites, not 2 domains that lead to the same pages. Is this normal?

http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/review_nov05_matxtremepro.htm

http://www.meshplc.co.uk/updated/review_nov05_matxtremepro.htm

ouch those where bad , 420watt is not acceptable for a pc this powerfull, id sure never go under 500w on that one you are looking at.

Sounds like if you plan on getting them incase pc goes belly up its hopeless O.o

""Mesh claimed to have replaced the video card and PSU (in actual fact they installed a PSU incapable of powering all the devices resulting in the machine often not booting)""


Aiieee... thats why i build pc's myself, i dont trust people with my parts o.O (whaaat)



They got slaughtered in the pages i read

As much as i dislike name brand pc's (they are usually very low on diffrent spec for some reason) the name brand usually has a staff that responds faster, the thing i read here where like : shoddy support, bad delivery dates, things missing from pc, rude staff : O.o

some oddities i noticed
lcd 8ms advertised (the info i could find says its 12ms)

Some company over here in norway have the same thing, 2 diffrent names, but same "group" so they have identical sale and warehouse, but diffrent webnames, i have no idea why they do that, i bought from them from years and never had problems with them tho.

Yeh I am pretty gutted. The major PC magazines over here gave it rave reviews, so didn't know if I should be trusting them or the forums i found. I'll do a little more research before buying anything I think lol.

Thnx for your time Thili, really appreciate it

OK another quick question to everyone

Whats the diff between an AMD 64 X2 4800 + and the FX-57?

I purchased a new comp not too long ago i went through alienware though. I pretty much just called told them my budget and what i would be using it for and on my doorstep showed up a duel p4,4 gigs of ram monster that heats this room up to well over 95 degrees (yea no a/c in germany) it is a beast and can handle anything i throw at it but it sure does run hot. i also have duel 19" 8 or 9ms response time lcd's although alienware is really overpriced and your pretty much paying for the name they do create some pure works of art.

biggest diffrence

64 X2 4800 ; new 2 cpu
FX-57? ; old (it is!)

For multitasking and well...everything X2 , fx57 is overhyped, i have a fx55 behind me, x2-4800 beat it a mile


" If you must sink a grand into the purchase of a new CPU, for Pete's sake, let it be the X2 4800+ and not the FX-57. Your multithreaded performance will be better, and your quotient of creamy smoothness for multitasking will rise exponentially"

Cool thnx for that. For some reason the fx57 is an optional upgrade from 4800, and costs more!

Looking at these guys atm, but the prices are making me feel ill.

http://www.evesham.com/PCs/List.asp?e=D37E7ECA-3616-45FF-B6C2-70E05D102098

edit to add: from some research, apparently the customer service and build quality are top notch

yar the fx57 is taaad faster then x2-4800 however no dual cpu, (point to my other thread) so i say its a waste of time to spend thaaat much on one.

Whats with that webpage O.o tiny text

lol I know. *almost* made my eyes bleed, but the gut wrenching feeling of the prices took my mind off that

one that cought my eye

x 256MB NVIDIA 7800GTX GDDR3 PCI-E graphics

Can we say overkill? ~.~ 1 is veeeery fast, 2 um what games are you playing that need 2 of those and x2-4800?.


try this
http://www.evesham.com/PCs/Info.asp?e=14C534C4-F259-40CE-9277-F216FDC16E18

and Configure it how you want, i noticed they have 2 ! dvd' one normal and one to burn with ..why o.O?

was just checking, can do away with the 2nd dvd drive for a whopping reduction in price of £21!! lol

still no word what the heck psu they use, ;_;

I noticed a funny thing - configure and remove the dvd drives, like this
and you pay more for taking out the drive and put it in other slot -21.96£ and cost of it is 29.78£ ,, hehe

I was pointed to http://www.komplett.com/ when I was looking at PCs, they sell componants as well as prebuilt stuff, and you can customize the options.. Their prebuilt stuff is a lot more expencive than the components are seperatly from what I can see though..

yeh but in the 'before' option you also get an additional basic dvd drive

edit: *slaps head* see what you mean now hehe

I am a little put off by them having no info on when they were established. Well as far as I can see anyway..

They have copyright on the name from 2000- , but no other info

Komplett is the people i buy from, ( www.komplett.no ) anyway, yeah they are very fast , and usually dont have to much crap in store ( their cpu fan's are bit blaah but )

Ah yeah but they been around very long in norway now, best online store or second usually on prices.

OK ill go check it out

PS, someone kick Lee for pushing our PC discussion down

No info on cooling at evesham. What would I need as a minimum for a 4800+/7800 GTX

edit to add: or motherboard