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katykiwi Moonflower

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Join date: 5 Dec 2003

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01-18-2006 14:03

From: Chip Midnight

My advice is to politely talk to the club owner and ask if they could possibly cut down on the shouts. Maybe they can use repeaters instead. If he's still unhappy with the outcome he can offer his land for sale to the club to give them additional buffer room so they won't annoy the next person as much. The most important thing is to be polite. If you create an adversarial situation with the club your chances of a favorable outcome becomes nil.

Thats exactly what I did when I was faced with this situation. I had land and a club/casino/whore house moved in next to me that had scripts that shouted constantly every event that happened. The shouting announced arrivals and departures of patrons, announced who won the automatic random disbursement of one linden every minute; and even shouted the annoucement that no one was there when the place was empty. The shout script was so sensitive it picked up people on my land and shouted an announcement of their arrival and departure too. It waa very extreme.

I did talk to the owner, and he didnt remove the shout or reduce the frequency or range, but he did offer to be my pimp if I would agree to be a ho in his place. I got rid of the land and got out of that situation.

I do think, however, that cases where the shouting is like the situation I faced it is an extreme harassment. I could not sell the land because of this shouting problem and I ended up releasing it to just get rid of the problem because it was not worth the hassle.

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

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01-18-2006 15:12

From: katykiwi Moonflower

I do think, however, that cases where the shouting is like the situation I faced it is an extreme harassment. I could not sell the land because of this shouting problem and I ended up releasing it to just get rid of the problem because it was not worth the hassle.

Obnoxious, yes. Harassment, no. It would have to be done with the premeditated intent to specifically annoy you to qualify as harassment. People are being way too liberal in the use of that word these days. I don't blame you for being annoyed enough by it to move (or hit the guy in the head with a heavy blunt object) but I still wouldn't call it harassment.

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joachim Hauptmann

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Join date: 19 Dec 2005

Posts: 3

01-19-2006 15:57

I thank you all very much for your advice.

But Im affraid the subject has become moot, at least as I see it. The club in question as folded.

Siggy Romulus

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Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,711

01-19-2006 16:36

From: Chris Wilde

Just so we are clear on this, how far does a shout travel and how much land do you need to own to "contain a shout"?
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The entire sim.

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Argent Stonecutter

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Join date: 20 Sep 2005

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01-19-2006 16:45

From: Cocoanut Koala

Here's a question!

It seems to me that lately, regular talking just doesn't go as far!

For example, if I am on the roof of the second floor of my build in Orion, someone on the ground below can't hear me.

Pick up a copy of my Otter Monitor, wear it, and put it in "Chatty" mode. That'll tell you everyone in 96 meters, with the ones withing 20 meters (talk range) separated out.

Then check whether people you can't talk to are in the normal talk range or not. If they are, file a bug report.

Osgeld Barmy

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Join date: 22 Mar 2005

Posts: 3,336

01-19-2006 17:32

the mute option of their machines/employees has been brought up a cupple times but theres also the skybox option, which is super if your one to iron your land flat, but kinda stinky if you want to landscape ... thats for the person to decide but the main points of it is

if your (i think) within 300m of the ground ppl can and will be able to tp direct to the platform and you can set your landing point up there too

your up to 200m above shout range,from the ground, with a local teleporter (shout is a 100m radius sphere btw)

and usually your frames per second will dubble becuase theres not much up there

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katykiwi Moonflower Esquirette Join date: 5 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,489	01-18-2006 14:03 From: Chip Midnight My advice is to politely talk to the club owner and ask if they could possibly cut down on the shouts. Maybe they can use repeaters instead. If he's still unhappy with the outcome he can offer his land for sale to the club to give them additional buffer room so they won't annoy the next person as much. The most important thing is to be polite. If you create an adversarial situation with the club your chances of a favorable outcome becomes nil. Thats exactly what I did when I was faced with this situation. I had land and a club/casino/whore house moved in next to me that had scripts that shouted constantly every event that happened. The shouting announced arrivals and departures of patrons, announced who won the automatic random disbursement of one linden every minute; and even shouted the annoucement that no one was there when the place was empty. The shout script was so sensitive it picked up people on my land and shouted an announcement of their arrival and departure too. It waa very extreme. I did talk to the owner, and he didnt remove the shout or reduce the frequency or range, but he did offer to be my pimp if I would agree to be a ho in his place. I got rid of the land and got out of that situation. I do think, however, that cases where the shouting is like the situation I faced it is an extreme harassment. I could not sell the land because of this shouting problem and I ended up releasing it to just get rid of the problem because it was not worth the hassle. _____________________
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	01-18-2006 15:12 From: katykiwi Moonflower I do think, however, that cases where the shouting is like the situation I faced it is an extreme harassment. I could not sell the land because of this shouting problem and I ended up releasing it to just get rid of the problem because it was not worth the hassle. Obnoxious, yes. Harassment, no. It would have to be done with the premeditated intent to specifically annoy you to qualify as harassment. People are being way too liberal in the use of that word these days. I don't blame you for being annoyed enough by it to move (or hit the guy in the head with a heavy blunt object) but I still wouldn't call it harassment. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
joachim Hauptmann Registered User Join date: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 3	01-19-2006 15:57 I thank you all very much for your advice. But Im affraid the subject has become moot, at least as I see it. The club in question as folded.
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	01-19-2006 16:36 From: Chris Wilde Just so we are clear on this, how far does a shout travel and how much land do you need to own to "contain a shout"? . The entire sim. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	01-19-2006 16:45 From: Cocoanut Koala Here's a question! It seems to me that lately, regular talking just doesn't go as far! For example, if I am on the roof of the second floor of my build in Orion, someone on the ground below can't hear me. Pick up a copy of my Otter Monitor, wear it, and put it in "Chatty" mode. That'll tell you everyone in 96 meters, with the ones withing 20 meters (talk range) separated out. Then check whether people you can't talk to are in the normal talk range or not. If they are, file a bug report.
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	01-19-2006 17:32 the mute option of their machines/employees has been brought up a cupple times but theres also the skybox option, which is super if your one to iron your land flat, but kinda stinky if you want to landscape ... thats for the person to decide but the main points of it is if your (i think) within 300m of the ground ppl can and will be able to tp direct to the platform and you can set your landing point up there too your up to 200m above shout range,from the ground, with a local teleporter (shout is a 100m radius sphere btw) and usually your frames per second will dubble becuase theres not much up there

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