Why so many "no transfer" items?

I hope it doesn't end up that way. I have bought a ton of outfits from Mischief and most of her stuff is transferrable. I love that. I tend to give outfits away to new people when I am in a helpful mood. It would suck if I was stuck with a ton of outfits that I never wore anymore and couldn't give away. I am already stuck with a bunch of no trans hair styles that I would love to be able to give to the new people that ask about the "neat hair."

I wouldn't mind paying extra for the option of being able to transfer. I have seen this done with poseball sets. I forget exactly what the permissions were since it was awhile ago that I saw it, but for the ones with more permissions it cost more.

Could the designers consider that? I would gladly buy hair that was transferrable but priced more than no transfer hair for less.

Definitely!

While we are talking about fixing them too, why not make a few simple fixes first like the langauge they use?

Am I the only one who finds it confusing that everyone talks about transfer and *all* documents and help files (even the Lindens own stuff!) uses the "T" word, but in the UI, there is no "Transfer" option!

Why not take the ten minutes required during one of the many many updates to change that checkbox from "give away/resell" to "transfer"????

This would clear things up immensely for a lot of people trying to get their heads around the messed up permissions system and cost practically zero time and effort on their part.

If their argument is increased accuracy for describing what the function actually is or does, then shouldn't "no modify" be changed to "no modify but can re-size," and "modify" be changed to "modify but can't look at the textures."???

I wasn't being in the least sarcastic.

I used to not care much about the mod bit except in clothing, but now that I am familiar enough with the building system not to break everything I touch, I actually mod a lot of things . Of course, I mod a lot of avatar accessories like hair to have it fit just like it should or get those pesky side bangs out of the way for a photoshoot - but I have also taken to "fixing" things I bought. For instance, some furniture / house designers don't bother to fix the texture repeats on the smaller sides of prims, but if it's mod, I can actually fix it! Yay Plus it's a lot of fun to take a +mod prefab, rip it to pieces and use it as a building kit.

As for the original question - I sell everything as mod / trans / no copy simply because jewelry is a classical "gift" item, and it's just so much nicer when one can give a ring or such to their loved one personally, instead of having the designer or a website do a delivery. I don't get many requests for different permissions, so I guess they're OK in this case for most people.

I strongly prefer copy/notrans. I usually will avoid like the plague items which are set to nocopy/trans. Why?

I've had nocopy/trans stuff poof on me in the past; I mean, it's just GONE from inventory thanks to some mysterious glitch, and whee, since it's nocopy/trans, I'm out of luck if I attempt to get a replacement from the creator. This made me a big believer in copy/notrans FAST.

Also, I like to modify my stuff. Let me tell you, it's REALLY special when I unwittingly buy an item which is nocopy/mod/transfer. It's GREAT to be able to take the risk of modding the thing (to fit your weird head or whatever), knowing there's no way to rez a fresh copy if you screw it up completely, and with no recourse of a replacement from the creator since it's a transferrable item.

Also, I'm a big fan of the dragging-outfit-folders-onto-yourself method of changing looks/avatars; clicking to choose -->Wear on single items drives me bonkers. It's just not necessary.

Also, I like to mix and match between outfits, and also since I have many avatars, I often like having the same outfit on more than one! I'd rather not have to buy duplicates just so I can have the same look on as many different avatars as I wish.

Additionally, I keep the things I buy. I rarely have come across the situation where I didn't like something (or whatever reason, really; it doesn't necessarily have to do with displeasure with an item) and wanted to give a notrans thing away. It just doesn't come up that often. If I want someone to have a notrans thing, I buy them their own copy. Not a big issue.

So yeah. Boo to nocopy/trans stuff.

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And oh yeah, about no-mod vs. mod...I'd have to say I largely prefer moddable clothing, but I totally understand why some designers make outfits no-mod: they're going for a very specific look, and that's completely 100% acceptable to me.

For clothes, I don't like copy/no transfer. I may like something when I'm shopping but I generally don't after. Would designers rather me give it away to someone who would actually wear it or have it sitting in my inventory? Not to mention I buy gifts quite a bit and a lot of times its not marked as to what the permissions are, so I have to edit the sale box and check for myself.

For the poses I make, I have one vendor thats copy/no transfer and no copy/transfer. I'm about to take out the no copy one because no one actually uses it.

Then for AOs, they are all copy/no transfer. I have a lot of thank-yous on this one because of past experience of losing this small itty bitty AOs and the merchant not being helpful about the situation at all.

For what it's worth, I won't buy anything (except by accident) that's set to "No Transfer". Nor will I sell anything I make as "No Transfer". I don't want to be stuck with something I can't resale or give away, if I don't find it useful.

Is her stuff copyable *and* transferable though? That's the issue.

I can't think of any designers that won't switch the permissions around if asked, but to make something copy and mod is crazy, especially if you sell clothes at a reasonable price. Someone will just set up their own store selling your stuff at a higher price, ruining your reputation and cutting into your meagre business.

I sell my products (99.9%) of the time as "Transferable/no copy/No mod" for certain reasons.

1) I like to make it easy for gift giving purposes.

2) If a refund is reasonably warrented, i can ask for the item back to check before i give a refund rather than tell people all sales are final.

3) If minor adjustments are needed, i would need to have the item transferred to me to fix is another reason.

Transferability automatically disables the ability to make copies of course.

I try to keep the prices of my products within a reasonable price that people could buy multiple copies if they like to put them into folders to compensate for the No Copy issue.

My products now are all No Mod for the same reasons as others may have pointed out as well as learning from a past bad experience from selling my things with mod.

Early in the morning. Sorry for misunderstanding and trying to be helpful, I'll try to not let it happen again.

I used to have my items marked copy,mod,trans.. Untill I found that they were reselling my objects below what I sold them for. Putting many of my objects at zero value. So I started just giving them away. If you see anything made by Catherine Cotton being sold, remember it was a freebie.

Cat

Must still be early...are you cranky?

No, they are no copy/trans

There are a few things in her store that are no trans, but they are usually mutilple packs of an item.

I just like being able to give things away when I have no desire to use it anymore.
Some of the free clothing folders I was given when I first started kind of sucked, so some people get excited when I give them stuff like they have been seeing around. I have no desire to hold a yard sale for the stuff I no longer use.

Item aliasing... vote for it! (This is the oldest one I could find in a quick search... I think it's been submitted a few times)

https://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=573

Depends on the item... I'll give copy or trans - but never both.

I'll try and work out what is most beneficial to the end user - which is better to have... usually its transfer.

I'll never give a script with mod either.

Some things I make NEED to be a specific size or shape - if you mod them they will break (waterslides as a prime example).

I get far less custom texture requests than I did 'I broke xxx' IM's

Torley if you are reading, do you think maybe this might make a good sticky subject?

This is not directed at the OP, she had a question and just wanted an answer, but doesn't it seem like we get some incarnation of this exact same question once a week?

Perhaps a sticky post that merges the best answers to why content makers use the permissions they do? Pro and Con? Then perhaps if it doesn't satisfy at least educate?

Dunno, am feeling a tad hormonal today, so take it with a grain of salt.

Bottom line...LINDEN LABS GIVE US A BETTER, MORE FLEXIBLE PERMISSION SYSTEM!

I feel better now..carry on.

What I'd really like is to be able to control-drag or something in the inventory and create a "link" or "alias" for the item. That way I could keep the item in my "vault" directory and still have it loaded with a bunch of different outfits.

Oh yeh, I wish Wolf Abramelin would sell his anims copy/no transfer so I could stick a copy in each outfit folder instead of having to remember to reload my AO when I change.

(of course, shortcuts/links/aliases would fix that)

Because I prefer items Copy/No Transfer.

That yeah, most of those custom dresses have gone to new homes. I am hoping people will get the chance to see them and pick them up. Why? Because I had them made. =D

I love being part of the creative process. Oh yeah, Ceera, that dragon one that goes from the leg to the back and over the shoulder. That bugger is never leaving my inventory, I think it is one of your best.

P.S. I prefer no copy/trans myself, being a builder, I tend to give away a lot of stuff, so I don't like old items clogging my inventory. (Help I am pushing 8K items TT_TT)

I think this is a fantastic subject--as well as similar threads I've seen in the past. Insofar as "sticky" tho, I think this is part of a greater "permissions rework" discussion, and like the recent talks on groups and convenants and whatnot, may have its own special place in the future--including corresponding inworld meetings focusing on this.

Thank ye Torley.

I'm sure our forum warriors will look forward to those renewed discussions.