NOW what is the problem???

Ok... it seems the grid is supposedly "down for maintenance" however those who were in when this latest problem occurred are still in. Yet it won't allow anyone else to log on.

Does anyone know wtf is wrong now? Or when the rest of us will be able to log in with the other 1800 people still left in there?

This is really pissing me off... it's pissing me off even more there's once again no announcement telling us what is wrong or how long the grid will be fubar'd this time.

Take a blood pressure pill...
and take a look here:
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/3/2e/101009/1.html#post992434
theres your reason, its at the top of the forums like always

ETA ja ok (sry not laughing at you) i dont think they could give an ETA even if they traveled into the future and back

Just a supposition, but this is probably continuation of what we saw over the weekend. There was no patch, and really, reasonably, Linden couldn't be expected to engineer a restructuring that fast.

They're probably either trying to save face, or not give the little moron causing the DDOS attacks the satisfaction of acknowledgement.

This'll get solved. There just may be some annoyance before it does.

Ten dollars to join and every single day since this account opened there's been a break down of the system. So I'm thinking that it's something that happens on a regular basis I really wish someone warned me before I invested in the bodyshape, skins, clothes, hair, clothes, months rent on the apartment and on and on and on.

That is the most uninformitive post I have ever read


talking about the lindens post, not yours.

Calm down lil lady... I understand your frustration, but no, this inst a regular thing... be patient

Almost as regular as my morning bowel movement now.

No, you just haven't been here long enough to get a long view perspective. This is not 'usual', but I can see how it'd look that way.

There are problems coming from an outside source, if you get my drift. A couple of people are trying to piss in our collective pudding, and LL is trying to keep that from happening.

It's happened once or twice in the near-three years i've been here; and it always passes eventually. But with extensibility (creation/scripting, etc) comes some risk of people finding a way to use it improperly.

That said, this is the longest downtime SL has had in a good long while.

TMI

Again, MilosZ, they probably don't want to give the little twerp causing this the satisfaction of crowing "OMG WE'RE BEING ATTACKED!". Unfortunately, the downside to this is a lot of residents think that the downtime is because some dude tripped over a wire and they're too busy eating chili dogs to plug it back in.

I'm not there, but I can assure you that the latter is not the case.

I find it extemely hard to believe that the same database servers are used for their web forums as for things like the asset dbs. If that's the case, then it makes no sense whatsoever to me.


Kyushu

Any number of architectural points may be distributed, from the SQL servers (though they may use different actual databases), to their interconnects, to their storage.

But if the forums weren't slow, people would just be complaining about the fact that SL wasn't up, instead of complaining about both. So I'm not sure what logic there is in deploying twice the amount of servers to keep the two autonomous would be.

Maybe we have no right to complain about this downtime, but I would think that with the three global attacks that have occured since I've been SL --and that's only since October-- that the Lindens' would have devised a means to contain and dissipate an attack before it could spread to grid shattering proportions. The TRUTH is that the Lindens give us very uninformitive posts, and they are then hailed by people for communicated us wit such lines as, "We are working on the issue, thank you for your patience." Why have they not dumped everyone from the grid to fix it. I understand that some people are still on grid.

Go outside and breathe the crisp Spring air and be glad that you are alive in this day and age. It's annoying, but only just.

We've got info about what's happening at the latest just posted in Announcements--stay tuned for more.

Thank you for your patience, and I seriously mean this personally.

I see no "info" in that post pertaining to when me might be able to log back in. But I guess those who need to know, or do not know....which is really more likely the case


Cheers

The attacks have been different every time. And actually, one was rather well contained, and didn't bring the grid down. I don't think any company is going to elucidate that a 'little rat bastard found a hack and it's having us run around the office pulling our hair out till we can figure out how to code and deploy a fix to it'.

If they haven't dumped the grid to fix it, they probably don't need to dump the grid to fix it.

The only reason I say that people don't have the right to complain about downtime -- (well, you do have the 'right', I just don't think it's appropriate..) is because these people, obviously, are trying to get the damn thing back up. Honestly, what do you think they're doing over there? People yelling and screaming isn't going to somehow make them produce a fix any faster.

It's very possible, MilosZ, that they can't just.. "make it come back up". Do you understand that much, at least? That they may actually, in fact, be trying as hard as they can? I think they have a better awareness of the situation than any of us do.

They could explain it to us, but it'd probably do very little good, and possibly some harm.

Torley we know you guys mean it when you say that. Some people just need to complaine about everything and act like 6 year olds. They don't always realize that a persone just like them is racking theire brains out trying to make this work for them. Anyways point being Keep up the good work. (-: always looking forward to new updates.

Man. What makes you think they know when this'll be fixed?

Continuing on the last, I guess.

Last week, where I work, I walked into the server room in the morning -- and everything was down. The air conditioning had gone out overnight, and everything had overheated.

All day, clients were asking me when the servers were going to be back up. I had to keep telling them: I don't know. Why? Because we had to order a damn air conditioner, and I personally didn't have control over FedEx or the installers.

Sometimes it happens that way. They've got no reason to "hide" ETAs from you. They probably just don't damn well know them.

Do you know much about computers and network....it is sometimes beter to leave it be while you figure out solution pon paper or other system then implement it so you are not always re-opening and closing te grid...

And also sometimes the issue is not always identifyied right away and them re-posting every 5sec is more time consuming than just fixing and exaplining after

I can't imagine mixing the data from my production environment with the data from a third party web board. I would want to keep them as far apart as possible. And I would never want a DOS attack on the boards to effect the performance of the in world database servers.

If that's what's really happening, I would be amazed.


Kyushu

Ok I agree with MilosZ Milosz... my problem is the lack of useful information coming down from the powers that be. And for the person that said we were 'having fits like 6yr olds" then ya know what? Maybe they should talk to us like adults and be straight with us as to what is going on. Their vague standard answers aren't even fit for a 6yr old.

It's pretty sad when as a paying customer I have to find out what is going on from other customers.

I love SL... but this just bites.

I have no knowledge of computer networks, I am just blowing off steam.