Best security/privacy tools in SL?

(Apologies if this has been posted before as I did search the forums)

Could use some help here please..

A friend of mine has attracted the attention of a few people that seems to think SL is all about stalking and shooting people. She is trying to setup as secure a home as possible. I have seen security where noone can enter the perimeter of the home and they get “flung off” if they linger too long. Apparently it also gives you a report of who is doing the lingering.

Can anyone tell me what kind of security this is and where I buy it?

And also do you need to have a premium account and be the landowner to do it? Or can you still rent and add this type of security.

Basically I am looking for input on the very best way to secure a home from ANYBODY other then those you want to come in. And hopefully also a way to prevent objects from entering the home, such as objects in the shape of “bullets.”

Oh yeah, that little game of looking in the window and clicking “sit” on a chair to enter the home, anyway to stop that?

Thanks, but she is not interested in filing reports with LL, just wants good in-game security.

Thanks ahead !

Oui

The powTECH land defence HUD is a really, really nice system, along with the group land protector. Very simple to use.

Psykes homesecurity orb, set it to eject as 'attack' type

Home LPD.

Wait, I don't sell it yet.

Buy a private sim. Hide it from the grid.

While in theory security scripts provide "security" in SL, they are more apt to annoy others, harass others, or border on griefing of others in SL. This goes for the many attack sensing shields that rez griefer bombs on people to security scripts that launch people who innocently fly by. They are unnecessary in SL.

As for privacy, well I wouldn't expect that in SL unless you bought your own simulator and locked everybody out. Other than that, just assume people can see you doing whatever it is you don't want other people to see.

You pay for the land, feel free to eject anyone - including fly by.

I hear Alt+Q works wonders.

I hear Alt + Q then loading flight simulator works even better.

Lindens have publicly stated at least twice on the forums that there should be a reasonable delay before ejecting people, and llTeleportHome should be reserved only for repeat offenders.

You'z pays for the land, you DONT'Z have the right to eject fly-bys. There must always be a reasonable passage for flying folks, and that means it has to be at something less than 300M, since without a jetpack, you can't get much beyond that.

Even with reasonable delay (which is NOT 30 seconds) you can eject at will from land you own. There is no requirement of reasonable passage, your sense of entitlement is acting up again.

They can set it at 10 seconds and eject you all day long after that. There is absolutely NO right of loitering. At any height.

BZZZZT WRONG ANSWER.

To legitimately eject someone from your land, you have to prove that you are being harrassed.

Someone passing by, or stopping to check the map nearby, is not harrassment.

I really wish I knew what it was that you get up to that you are so ashamed of anyone knowing, that you insist on this paranoid security rant every time someone mentions it.

I have picked up flying vehicles and flight scripts that have been written or created by Lindens. Doesn't that say to you that somewhere along the game's life someone decided that it was OK to fly freely around the world?

Conversely, can you point me in the direction of a security script that has the creator's surname as a Linden?

*crickets chirp*

Lewis

Lee Linden wrote an extensive item on best-practice coding for a security script here:
/invalid_link.html

While not a Linden-authored "script" in itself, it's pretty much the next closest thing.

No, I don't. I can also ban you for any reason I see fit.

Step one: Decide
Step two click on Lewis on my land
Step three: eject

Thats all it takes, as long as I use eject its not abuse. Lindens might not have created security scripts, but they gave use the eject and teleport home functions ONLY on our land, and the freedom to use them to ban or eject anyone, at any time, from our land. For ANY reason.

You have no right of passage over private land, now quit with the gibberish.

OMG, where do you get this stuff, Lewis?!

Its actually kind of comical where these strange ideas come from.

I was thinking "scary" actually.

Dunno. I usually laugh as much at horror movies as I do at comedies.

honestly, teleport home is only really 'acceptable' for manually entered people. There is no 'appropriate' way to send someone home via a nameless any av sensor, thas just rude, and will get you in trouble.

Our gohomers never have anonymous scans/sensors, they only fire off a sensor when prompted to do someone, and it is a named sensor, specificlly targeted at someone who is to be removed. If that *named* sensor comes back, they are promptly kicked.

Unfortunately with group owned land, an im warning is not possible via a group owned object, so we leave it at the discretion of ourselves and our friends to politely ask the person about to be kicked to cease whatever is going to get them kicked, before we kick them.

This use is, and has been, considered acceptable as it is simply a way to give non group officer people a way to help administer group land.

If you just scan against any 'agents' tho...

and tie a gohome to that...

you are asking for trouble... that is considered overly hostile and can get you in trouble...

The problem is people just confuse the two things...

If you specificially as a person choose to eject someone, whom you name, its fine

if you think you can just tie an infinite loop sensor to sendhome and keep everyone 'off' yer land, chances are you'll get a talking to by a linden sooner or later.

No, but you can eject all day long, specific names or not!

You can, but even that would seem somewhat excessive...

I mean what it really comes down to is there are several reasons to want a security script, and several potential levels of authoritativeness and effectiveness of commands, depending on what reason you require.

'I want to be alone'

This is the general 'overactive' security script method. There will be a scanner, it will scan on prolly too fast a timer for any agent, and immediately *do* something to that agent.

These scripts tend to cause problems, are overtly hostile to flying around, and in general should really be avoided if at all possible. If you MUST have a script of this type, try and keep the timer from being hyperactive, try and actually warn people first, and try and use some smarts...

If you must design/use one some tips might be:

- keep things on a slow timer to help prevent lag
- if you get a hit, don just *DO* something, offer a warning, or even wait for multiple hits before gettin a warning.. if someone is just flying by they prolly don care about you an you prolly don care about them.
- scan for physics in the next pass mabye, if you see that its a vehicle flying around mebbe don just eject them, as chances are they are just flying by.

overall though you should be just respectful of people who don care about you and are just out touring, or trying to get from point a to b without too much hastle


'I want to be able to stop someone from harassing me/my guests'

this is an *ENTIRELY* different security model. In a system like this, chances are you are not going to be bumping random people, you are going to be trying to enjoy yourself, and someone is specifically going to attempt to mess with you or your area for their own gratification...

What is and is not acceptable in this model is *VERY* different. Since you won't be 'triggering' your security on every person, only on someone very specifically named, and for a very specific reason, it is more acceptable to have a faster timer. If you can scan for NAMES specifically you can get an instant hit back if that name is in the area, and you can use that hit to do what you need to do to protect your area.

General scans and compare against names internally work allright for this as well, but it gets much messier as that takes alot more sim and script resources.. additionally you run the risk of being 'flooded' and not scanning the person you are trying to kick if more than 16 people are nearby, thats not a problem with a named scan.

Also because these are people you are directly, manually attempting to get rid of, and get them *OUT* of your area the types of acceptable responses rise significantly... A warning first is always a good thing but again in group owned areas, the kicker *HAS* to be group owned as well, and that can preclude IM's unless you build complex multi-object systems.

A quick eject may come next but by in large if someone is there specifically to harass you, ejecting them will only be successful, if you count moving them 4 feet away a success.

Kick home may come after that. Its a transient 'please do not be here' kind of message and it is usually annoying enough to the person that after they get that once or twice, they go off after easier pastures...

after that a direct land ban may be in order, which finally is a real option. I do wish that SL/LSL had abit more in this department now... Honestly the way i feel about ban is that permanent bans really should only be doable from a person specifically putting them in... I wish there was a much simpler 'ban queue' of say 25 people, or say 24 hours... just something where you 'ban' someone via a scripted object, and they are kept away for that small amount of time, or relatively short, but 'rolling' queue/list..

This would allow the ban script calls to *ALWAYS* work, regardless of the size of the main parcel's ban list... and would allow more effective management of short term annoyances, without having to lump them into long term permanent lock out bans...


Push should never be part of a security script, there is no need, or purpose for it... shieds etc also tend to be over-doing it...

I wish there would overall be less confusion there with this... far far too many people confuse actions appropriate for SPECIFIC target security scripts vs appropriate for 'general taget' leave me alone security scripts...

Warning included, ejects after you have enough time to fly past the area, even if flying at 3 m/s.

You have no right of passage so your flying in anothers land can be recorded as 'overtly hostile to landowners' depending on your veiw.

Seems generally only in your view.

What you class as 'protection', I class as a clear case of abuse, and will be reported every single time.

What exactly is it that you do that demands you have so much privacy anyway?

Lewis

basically mabye i can offer this jargon:

'active security'

You want to be left alone and every person who comes in, that security is going to get in their face..

I think anyone who comes from the 80's remembers walking in a parking lot and getting hit with a 110 decibel "STAND BACK THIS CAR IS PROTECTED BY VIPER"... thats the kind of mentality here

and

'reactive security'

This is you wanting to get out a specific person, and *ONLY* that one specific person, who is attempting to cause you or your group/area/friends harm.

This is more like a house alarm which goes off when someone breaks the window in. Someone walking down the street, or someone whom wanted to stop and look at your car in the driveway would NEVER be bothered by it. Only the person who actively just attempted to break and enter, would ever even know it was there.


The kinds of things 'active' security is allowed to do, and the motivations of both the people using it, and their intented targets, are very VERY different than the kinds of things 'reactive' security is allowed to do, and the motivations of the people using it and their intented targets...

The way I had my orb up did nothing to harm any flybys who honestly were just flying by. It wasn't until a 'flight right' fanatic kept belittling the ground I gave towards a peaceful compromise and refusing to give that I put it back as was. They won't be happy until they have more say on my land than they do.