Alternate punishment methods.

Basically, let the punishment fit the crime. Ex. some guy is cussing, dropping the f-bomb, (EDIT:harrasing everyone, spamming everyone's chat,) like 2045 times in a row. So you AR him, (and request a specific punishment - in this case, a MuteAll(a term i just made up)). now, instead of completely banning him, you would just MuteAll him, which would disable everyone hearing him, and prevent him making notecards. And Emotes. (Edit: not like regular muting, which only disables the guy from talking to you directly.)

a guy wearing (EDIT: an extremely offensive item, not gonna list here, and after repeated requests to remove,) would automatically have their avatar switched to the default shape and outfit, and they could not put on any attachments or change clothes until said ban was lifted. Same thing with griefers.

Overall asshats? Toss 'em into the cornfield! It's like a prison, but no-build, no-fly, no escape. (yes, it is real, i've seen the screenies.)

Offensive or negative land parcels could be shut down( EDIT: Freebie Seller's parcels of land (not going to name names, but you know exactly who i am referring to.), or land belonging to people with illegal business practices), much like regular sims are shut down due to lag or somesuch. Offending parcels could also be temporarily be replaced with a flat land patch (would say something like "suspended land" in the title), until said issues are resolved.

You could also complain about wrongful punishments. Lindens would have the power to put you on a probationary period, and the TOS could be changed to make way for these new things.

I'm just pitching ideas... tell me what you think, or add new ideas.

EDIT: Land owners could disable flight, scripting, building, or enable HP for set avatars. Or is this done already?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much work for no benefit.

dog + balls + suck = my opinion.

Personally, I favor torture followed by capital punishment. Some folks may find that a little draconian, but Stalin thought it rather effective.

I don't give a **** if people ****ing swear like bloody ****ing sailors, personally. Profanity filters seem to be the tool of the day.

I'd say it's reasonable to limit explicit stuff to Mature sims, though. If you can waltz around in a sim with your xCite between your knees, i think it'd be unreasonable to do all this work just so people can't use explicit words and such.

I'd say profanity filters. And there are guns, you know. If you're getting griefed, AR them, and if they keep griefing after you told them you did, I think it should be perfectly acceptable to grief the griefer.

Of course, I think a gangwar in a newbhood would make for a good newbie-slum environment, but that's just me.

I second this motion.

Taking the post more seriously, I have to say that it would be better to let the players punish the griefers a bit on their own would have more effect. Let the lindens drop on a "Grief" flag over a specific span of time that makes it OK to do whatever you want to that avatar...they land in a nightclub, the bouncers hose them, etc.

You don't want to go passing godlike punishments down upon the masses based off of the vague "explicit or negative" content concept. Those terms are often very, very relative.

Griefing has little to do with content and much to do with both intent and frequency. Keep the focus on intent, which is of the moment, and frequency.

Yeah. Sounds good. Maybe red text on their tag, and a red blip, or somethin.

That sounds like a cyber version of the scarlet letter?

I'm glad to see your thinking outside the box. Who let him out?



Ok seriously tho you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar. SL can use its collective humor and come up with some pretty funny things to do to offenders. The corn field well I loved that idea. "Its fity fing awesome, I would so fing like to go there and ...awww f it, they will never fing send me there" Shoot I was gonna be so serious too. I have toyed with the idea of building a funny farm myself. Would be funny to have a work farm where shoveling prim manure and such must be done to join the rest of the colony of worker bees. Crap there I go again. Sorry can't be serious its 3:39am. lol.

Cat

bright red spankings

Yes, they do.

Well, I still can't bring myself to believe in the cornfield. Yes, there were photographs, but photographs can be doctored, as we all know. Only one person has claimed to have been there, and his story was made all the more suspicious by his claim that he met the Sign Extortionist there. After the initial claim, Robin confirmed that it did exist, but it seems to me she might have been enjoying the joke and continuing it.

I don't know - perhaps I am too cynical for my own good?

Give us better controls like privacy and actual land management tools that ban someone instead of letting them just hover above your land, and the ability to build opt-in griefer black lists, and be done with police work.

The paradigm that works on the web is making the responsibility to deal with malicious hackers de-centralized; he who runs the server is responsible for security. Even if LL is hosting all the servers, give us the tools to manage them.

Regards,

-Flip

I have a cunning plan Selador. Be a naughty boy and see if you can get sent to the Cornfield, then you'll know for sure?

Ay, there's the rub. Not only is the existence of the cornfield in doubt, if it does exist, no one knows what degree of naughty you need to be in order to get there.

One of the world's most successful religions is based around this exact conundrum.

The phrase is catching on...w00t to the use of asshats. (maybe w00t users can be sent to cornfields too...)

IMHO there won't be any really effective forms of punishment until someone invents a way to punch people in the face over the internet.

Never been to xCite and such?

Here, that sort of thing might ENCOURAGE griefing.

I was a big fan of the "Pile Driver" in TSO. Too bad I was only beating up on other sims instead of their annoying creators.

Lying would be another way to express that.

Don't you have someone to dominate or something?
Or is that usually something done as a break between pontificating?

I'm working on it - I got a 50k pot going atm to see who'll be the first DJ to broadcast live from the cornfield.

It's only true pontificating if you do so in rhapsodical strains (see ex-Supreme Ct. Justice H. Black for more on that bit.)