No more free accounts?

Maybe LL should either do away with free accounts, or just force people to use an actual credit card with a name attatched? I think that would do away with the glut of griefer alts we get these days, wouldn't it?
I might be way off base, so if you disagree, I'd love to discuss it.

I'd be willing to upgrade to Premium, just wish I could wait a bit longer to since my funds are a little stiff at the moment.

The problem is it still won't stop some, they'll just use their dad's card then.

It might work, but it would slow down that account inflation that LL wants so bad...... they seem desperate to hit the million mark.

I would think fewer people are willing to pay money, then come in and hack. So a lack of free accounts would probably reduce the number of attacks. But then again, I started on a free account, and may not have signed up without seeing it first. I wonder also what the population of people on free account who nonetheless do contribute to the overall SL world is, and I would guess it's not insubstantial.

You still have to provide credit card info when signing up for a free account. At least you did the last time I checked which wasn't all that long ago.

Personally im more interested in where i put my money,*is this a worthy investment?*...bieng kicked out all the time. Freezing in place everytime i move .My computers top of the line. There is no exuses as to why my side isnt working properly because it is. My idea of this bieng a worthy invenstment is that its not at this point i have to much of a real life to be hurt that this secondlife *video game* is even worth grieving over.

[P.S] my account gets suspended on a daily basis after i have logged in and left to relogg it tells me my accounts available liek 4 mins later what`s that all about lol *troublemaker* that relogs .......buh-bye

non paying account should be a tourist account with limited abilities,
not just land ownership
just a thought
-LW

Im against this... I hit 2 years playing in a few month or so, and have been playing a basic account the entire time, back when a basic account did cost a lil start up dough. Ive done nothing wrong, why should I suddenly become penalized by losing options?

No kiddin'. I've spent more than enough money with my basic account. I don't plan to ever upgrade. With the amount of money I've spent in SL, being forced to either pay or have less options would suck, and I'd probably just leave.

bring back the one time $10 fee, anyone?.. I know I paid it, happily.

Just like a known griefer forum. I wanted to take a peek and was asked to register which required cash!? O.o hell with that.. I aint paying those kiddies jack...

Usually money stands in peoples way. Do away with free accounts and im sure the griefer population will still exist but will shrink by like 3/4ths.

Free accts have always been a problem. Should there be free accts? No I understand business, and perhaps free accts/trial periods gain business...but it really is the quickest way to lose paying customers as well.

It is, simply put, a free ticket to grief in this enviroment. Every griefer out there knows that land owners can only ban so many people. The free accts eat up those spots.

Grid attacks? Thats your free accts too. Personally, I am sick and tired of reporting griefers. Get no help. Liasons simply do not do anything about the problems. Concierge simply does not do anything about the problems. Solution? SL needs an enima.

Isn't it sad that the most popular places in SL had to set up a griefer network just to protect themselves? Every man for himself. Sink or swim. Pathetic.

A little cooperation goes a long way. If the Lindens are serious about saving SL in this post DI world..all they need to do is listen. Look around, we MAKE this world. Changes are changes. Fine. Make them and help us adjust to them. Only help most of us need is a little security knowing SL will be up and running when we log on. Cant do that with constant griefers / IE: free accts.


- Wizzy
(Badlands owner - Home to Bad Girls and Sexy-Talk radio)

I'd say have a one time 10 dollar charge.

The grid has been griefed 4 times this month... I think a father or mother would recognize a total of 40 dollars in fees from LLs.

Secondly, using a credit card over some of the other payment methods actually gives LL an easy way to track someone down for legal action, that knowledge alone is a deturant.

of course that would be a formality charge, it could be lower, and accounts already in game would be exempt...

Or why not just ban new users from ressing, using or writing any object or script that self replicates/loops (so they could still use guns) for 15 days? they could still learn LSL without that function.

At least that would only be 2 times a month someone with a vendetta could drop the grid. The coding wouldnt be that hard since we already have an age counter on avatars.

They should require an active, working credit card on signup and then charge these fuckers when they take the grid down.

That'd make 'em stop

I have noticed that a lot more griefers came on after they made accounts free, but at the same time, there have been a lot more people signing up in general who are great, no-problem users.

What I would like to see is more moderation within SL to take care of griefers. We all know that LL fails in this respect. The major problem IMHO is that the griefers have very little to lose, much fun to gain, and it really only hurts the -paying- subscribers of SL.

When you own land, you're getting griefed, and LL won't stop it that's a great way to make people stop playing, and stop paying for SL.

They do. You cannot make basic account without providing credit card info (or Paypal account which requires the same) and this data is verified before account is activated.

I thought it was Paypal, Credit card /or/ a cell phone number.

Either way though my point is that they should ask for the CC# and then charge them for griefing

When I joined, you could provide a cell phone number instead of a credit card number. And those are not necessarily traceable, either (you can get pre-pay phones without providing anything in the way of identification).

I love when people want to punish a large group of people for the action of one. It's so much easier then fixing the real problem.

What about a deposite system?

They take 10 dollars from your credit card... if you're not banned in 30 days, they return it.

Current free accounts wouldn't be required to or subjected to any action.

Fuck no =/ even witha 7 day trial wasnt near enough to convince me... its been almost a month and I am still considering..... Banning free acounts is a crime to any one working with a budget as I once was... but even having money now i dont throw it away carlessly... Using a Credit card Only is still a bad idea because there are a good many that dont beileve in using credit cards or have a phobia of internet security... neither case would work well

Getting rid of "free" accounts isn't the same as getting rid of "basic" accounts. Free accounts haven't even been around a year, before then Basic accounts cost you US$10 to set up, just like premium accounts.

And I'm 100% in agreement with this. I've suggested it before as a way to deal with griefing in general.
They can't do that more than once.

You're both misunderstanding what this means. Getting rid of "free" accounts isn't the same as getting rid of "basic" accounts. Free accounts haven't even been around a year, before then Basic accounts cost you US$10 to set up, just like premium accounts.

And I'm 100% in agreement with this. I've suggested it before as a way to deal with griefing in general.
They can't do that more than once.

I wasn't sure, either, but I signed up for $10.00 anyway, because there weren't "free" accounts back then, just "basic" and "premium" and they both cost the same for the first month...

I just purchased my Premium account. I'm not thrilled at the prospect of stiffiling the influx of new creativity into SL with doing away with Free accounts. In retrospect, I would gladly pay 10US$ to begin on a basic account.

This is looking back, though. When I started, if I had been asked to spend 10US$, I wouldn't be here. Not only because of my whole dislike for the pay-to-play idea, but because RW monies were too strapped at the time. I likely would have glossed over SL and never been back.

Would this have been a big loss to SL? From me? AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

No. *giggles* I doubt I'll ever shake the foundations of the SL community. Not my style. There are others that it may have though. I'm not sure how they really got started, but "what if" xxxxx (who does influence SL greatly) had turned away due to the fee?

But aside from this, it doesn't matter.

There will ALWAYS bea TRAIL period. Griefers can do thier work with an avie a few minutes old. What do they care that thier account will be wiped before it starts?

File this idea with charging L$ for rezzing prims, please. Nice concept, but impracticle and destructive to the creative ideal of SL.

NEXT!

~Jessy

Mrr... I'm not really sure what would stop someone from signing up with a stolen credit card, though?