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Jake Reitveld

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12-16-2005 09:45

I like flying in planes between continents. Telehubs were a bad idea, void sims with water are not. Of course, it might be interesting if the water sims prohibited terrforming, and the underwated land was acutioned off. People might enjoy building underwater.

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Doc Nielsen

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12-16-2005 09:53

From: Jake Reitveld

I like flying in planes between continents. Telehubs were a bad idea, void sims with water are not. Of course, it might be interesting if the water sims prohibited terrforming, and the underwated land was acutioned off. People might enjoy building underwater.

What they might not enjoy is the performance of retired servers though!

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All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?

Juro Kothari

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12-16-2005 13:40

Void sims allow me to practice my touch and go with my seaplane.

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Siggy Romulus

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12-16-2005 14:05

From: Juro Kothari

Void sims allow me to practice my touch and go with my seaplane.

You practiced your 'touch and go' with me the other day you naughty man!

Not so much as a 5L$ tip either - Oh the humanity!

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Kiamat Dusk

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12-16-2005 14:09

Can someone post a list of the void sims? Or is there way to tell what they are? Or are we just talking about the water between the islands/continents? Can we actually sail/fly from one island/continent to another now?

-Kiamat Dusk
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Pix Paz

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01-31-2006 17:31

I love sailing - void sims are a god send for relaxing and exploring.

I love the journey not the getting there.

Void sims and the edges of void sims are my SL.

Myrrh Massiel

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02-01-2006 14:23

...i would love to see void sims greatly expanded through on-demand handoffs amongst a pool of generic ocean servers...

...right now, running into a hard stop against the edge of the world is the biggest break in immersion while exploring the grid...instead, imagine the wonder of freely following the horizon to one's heart's content, imagine sailing unfettered from the mainland amongst our menagerie of private islands!..open oceans would be a tremendous boon for vehicle content, innundating the SL community with richly developed gameplay...

(of course island owners should retain the option to disable ocean-server access in similar fashion to current private telehub restrictions against p2p)

...walls are bad game design!..

Margaret Mfume

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02-01-2006 14:29

Vehicle controls aren't the best in SL. It's not that easy navigating a boat along the edge of a sim. Before the water void sims, if you didn't hit someone's built over water or their security fence, you'd go off the edge of the world trying to avoid them.

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CrystalShard Foo

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02-01-2006 21:48

From: Einsman Schlegel

So, would in a business sense in order to save money, to get rid of them? do they still fill a purpose?

What business sense is there for flowers?

Bertha Horton

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02-01-2006 22:05

From: Michael Faraday

What is the value of a newborn baby?

Or indeed its business sense.

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Smith Peel

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02-01-2006 22:32

I have been trying to get an answer for some time about WHETHER OR NOT VOID AND PROTECTED SIMS WILL STAY PROTECTED in the future.

I personally believe that we need voids and protected lands to keep some sense of order and stability and beauty and for all of the reasons people already mentioned in this thread.

There has been nothing but crickets in response to my posts (except for Nova, bless her, but it seems to be out of her hands) and my helpline emails. As some may know, I was pretty PO'd when the protected lake (well half of it.. the other half is still "protected"

next to my land was sold at auction. I'm not bitter (much) but I would still like clarification and some sort of policy on these voids/protected areas.

So any of my friends who happen to be Lindens who want to nudge some of those who might be asleep at the wheel....

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Juro Kothari

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02-02-2006 00:51

From: Siggy Romulus

You practiced your 'touch and go' with me the other day you naughty man!

Not so much as a 5L$ tip either - Oh the humanity!

I only tip when the service and/or product is *good*, Siggy - you know that.

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Juro Kothari

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02-02-2006 00:54

From: Kiamat Dusk

Can someone post a list of the void sims? Or is there way to tell what they are? Or are we just talking about the water between the islands/continents? Can we actually sail/fly from one island/continent to another now?

-Kiamat Dusk
Wanderer

Hey Kiamat! Long time no see...

I don't have a list of the sims handy, but it's all those mostly empty water sims that filled in the holes on (mostly) the main continent. You can definately fly/sail pretty much from one continent to the other now. If you've not played around in the void sims, try it.. they're great for swimming, boating, flying, etc.

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Kage Seraph

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02-02-2006 07:05

From: CrystalShard Foo

What business sense is there for flowers?

*increments CrystalShard's karma* Nice.

Felix Uritsky

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Join date: 15 Dec 2004

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02-02-2006 07:25

It makes me sad to have to explain to newbies the value of exploring and having land that's connected to other land. Granted, I despised telehubs since day 1, but they did have one benefit, they made people realize that there's some space between point A and point B. Now, exploration is becoming a lost art, people just materialize somewhere and instantly appear somewhere else with nothing in between.

We need more vehicle builders and enthusiasts on Help Island

Psyra Extraordinaire

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02-02-2006 07:46

Keep the voids.

Some people buy land on the border of voids simply for the ocean view, and ability to go boating in a large open area.

Methinks SL needs a large public beach on that one island with the Teen Grid Transfer station (the coffee shop) and it would probably get used more.

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Blueman Steele

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02-02-2006 01:47

From: Einsman Schlegel

Since P2P has arrived. Is there still a purpose the void sims hold to us? I think the reasoning behind the void sims were so that flying from point A to B would be easier. So, would in a business sense in order to save money, to get rid of them? do they still fill a purpose?

If so, what would that purpose be?

A void sim is NO sim. I think what you mean is the low powered sims to fill in gaps.

Yes there's a purpose.. we still fly, swim, walk.

Void Sims: Is There Still a Purpose?
Jake Reitveld Emperor of Second Life Join date: 9 Mar 2005 Posts: 2,690	12-16-2005 09:45 I like flying in planes between continents. Telehubs were a bad idea, void sims with water are not. Of course, it might be interesting if the water sims prohibited terrforming, and the underwated land was acutioned off. People might enjoy building underwater. _____________________ ALCHEMY -clothes for men. Lebeda 208,209
Doc Nielsen Fallen... Join date: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,059	12-16-2005 09:53 From: Jake Reitveld I like flying in planes between continents. Telehubs were a bad idea, void sims with water are not. Of course, it might be interesting if the water sims prohibited terrforming, and the underwated land was acutioned off. People might enjoy building underwater. What they might not enjoy is the performance of retired servers though! _____________________ All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	12-16-2005 13:40 Void sims allow me to practice my touch and go with my seaplane. _____________________
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	12-16-2005 14:05 From: Juro Kothari Void sims allow me to practice my touch and go with my seaplane. You practiced your 'touch and go' with me the other day you naughty man! Not so much as a 5L$ tip either - Oh the humanity! _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Kiamat Dusk Protest Warrior Join date: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,525	12-16-2005 14:09 Can someone post a list of the void sims? Or is there way to tell what they are? Or are we just talking about the water between the islands/continents? Can we actually sail/fly from one island/continent to another now? -Kiamat Dusk Wanderer _____________________ "My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape." -Bret Easton Ellis 'American Psycho' "Anger is a gift." -RATM "Freedom" From: Vares Solvang Eat me, you vile waste of food. (Can you spot the irony?) http://writing.com/authors/suffer
Pix Paz Away with the Pixies Join date: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 129	01-31-2006 17:31 I love sailing - void sims are a god send for relaxing and exploring. I love the journey not the getting there. Void sims and the edges of void sims are my SL.
Myrrh Massiel Registered User Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 362	02-01-2006 14:23 ...i would love to see void sims greatly expanded through on-demand handoffs amongst a pool of generic ocean servers... ...right now, running into a hard stop against the edge of the world is the biggest break in immersion while exploring the grid...instead, imagine the wonder of freely following the horizon to one's heart's content, imagine sailing unfettered from the mainland amongst our menagerie of private islands!..open oceans would be a tremendous boon for vehicle content, innundating the SL community with richly developed gameplay... (of course island owners should retain the option to disable ocean-server access in similar fashion to current private telehub restrictions against p2p) ...walls are bad game design!..
Margaret Mfume I.C. Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,492	02-01-2006 14:29 Vehicle controls aren't the best in SL. It's not that easy navigating a boat along the edge of a sim. Before the water void sims, if you didn't hit someone's built over water or their security fence, you'd go off the edge of the world trying to avoid them. _____________________ hush
CrystalShard Foo 1+1=10 Join date: 6 Feb 2004 Posts: 682	02-01-2006 21:48 From: Einsman Schlegel So, would in a business sense in order to save money, to get rid of them? do they still fill a purpose? What business sense is there for flowers?
Bertha Horton Fat w/ Ice Cream Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 835	02-01-2006 22:05 From: Michael Faraday What is the value of a newborn baby? Or indeed its business sense. _____________________ Trapped in a world she never made!
Smith Peel Smif v2.0 Join date: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,597	02-01-2006 22:32 I have been trying to get an answer for some time about WHETHER OR NOT VOID AND PROTECTED SIMS WILL STAY PROTECTED in the future. I personally believe that we need voids and protected lands to keep some sense of order and stability and beauty and for all of the reasons people already mentioned in this thread. There has been nothing but crickets in response to my posts (except for Nova, bless her, but it seems to be out of her hands) and my helpline emails. As some may know, I was pretty PO'd when the protected lake (well half of it.. the other half is still "protected" next to my land was sold at auction. I'm not bitter (much) but I would still like clarification and some sort of policy on these voids/protected areas. So any of my friends who happen to be Lindens who want to nudge some of those who might be asleep at the wheel.... _____________________ Wanna live in a giant wang? http://slurl.com/secondlife/Conroy/210/210/22/ Or just be bad in public? http://slurl.com/secondlife/Conroy/222/22/22/
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	02-02-2006 00:51 From: Siggy Romulus You practiced your 'touch and go' with me the other day you naughty man! Not so much as a 5L$ tip either - Oh the humanity! I only tip when the service and/or product is good, Siggy - you know that. _____________________
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	02-02-2006 00:54 From: Kiamat Dusk Can someone post a list of the void sims? Or is there way to tell what they are? Or are we just talking about the water between the islands/continents? Can we actually sail/fly from one island/continent to another now? -Kiamat Dusk Wanderer Hey Kiamat! Long time no see... I don't have a list of the sims handy, but it's all those mostly empty water sims that filled in the holes on (mostly) the main continent. You can definately fly/sail pretty much from one continent to the other now. If you've not played around in the void sims, try it.. they're great for swimming, boating, flying, etc. _____________________
Kage Seraph I Dig Giant Mecha Join date: 3 Nov 2004 Posts: 513	02-02-2006 07:05 From: CrystalShard Foo What business sense is there for flowers? increments CrystalShard's karma Nice.
Felix Uritsky Prime Minister of Lupinia Join date: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 267	02-02-2006 07:25 It makes me sad to have to explain to newbies the value of exploring and having land that's connected to other land. Granted, I despised telehubs since day 1, but they did have one benefit, they made people realize that there's some space between point A and point B. Now, exploration is becoming a lost art, people just materialize somewhere and instantly appear somewhere else with nothing in between. We need more vehicle builders and enthusiasts on Help Island
Psyra Extraordinaire Corra Nacunda Chieftain Join date: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,533	02-02-2006 07:46 Keep the voids. Some people buy land on the border of voids simply for the ocean view, and ability to go boating in a large open area. Methinks SL needs a large public beach on that one island with the Teen Grid Transfer station (the coffee shop) and it would probably get used more. _____________________ E-Mail Psyra at psyralbakor_at_yahoo_dot_com, Visit my Webpage at www.psyra.ca Visit me in-world at the Avaria sims, in Grendel's Children! ^^
Blueman Steele Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038	02-02-2006 01:47 From: Einsman Schlegel Since P2P has arrived. Is there still a purpose the void sims hold to us? I think the reasoning behind the void sims were so that flying from point A to B would be easier. So, would in a business sense in order to save money, to get rid of them? do they still fill a purpose? If so, what would that purpose be? A void sim is NO sim. I think what you mean is the low powered sims to fill in gaps. Yes there's a purpose.. we still fly, swim, walk.

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