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Preview for Freebies, and Main Grid for payers?
Put all free unauthenticated accts on Preview so no grief in Main and test Preview? Yes, put the free accts on Preview Grid 19 (32.8%) No, leave the free accts in the Main Grid 39 (67.2%) Total votes: 58
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:11 We have 2 big problems in SL 1) Free accounts people on the main grid causing grief 2) The Preview grid not having enuf testers Lets stick the Free UNAUTHENTICATED accounts on the Preview grid?? Authenticated accts can go to Main grid
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	07-24-2006 19:20 Only if you rename it the "Seperate But Equal" grid instead. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:22 Altho I guess this would make Preview bigger than Main? That might suck... hmm unless Preview was small or had certain limits which still test all functionality. Then the free users would have no right to complain when a "update" caused everything to go to hell in a hand basket. And we would all be shielded from crap "updates". And where is the appology to all the scripters who have spent days replacing every script that uses llSensor??????
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:23 From: Ghoti Nyak Only if you rename it the "Seperate But Equal" grid instead. -Ghoti Well they would be "previewing" SL b4 deciding to join also LOL
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	07-24-2006 19:25 Hehe, you could make the Preview grid quest-based, like EQ et al "Find the Bling, Deliver Bling To Clubowner NPC" type thing, to sorta ease people in. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Vares Solvang It's all Relative Join date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 2,235	07-24-2006 19:25 The preview grid isn't running all the time. Only when they need an update tested. _____________________
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:26 Stop your scaring me.... how about find the bug and score a free 3 months on Main?
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:29 From: Vares Solvang The preview grid isn't running all the time. Only when they need an update tested. Leave preview up then and make lindens test in the preview... make all the free users know that they could loose anything at anytime there in no warranties at all. It could be rolled back.. left down for days etc. But generally leave it up all the time.
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:30 Newbies would be the best testers of "interface enhancements" (OMG what a laugh)
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	"Escape From Preview" 07-24-2006 19:31 From: Psyke Phaeton Stop your scaring me.... how about find the bug and score a free 3 months on Main? Maybe instead... get caught griefing, etc, you get sent to the Preview Grid where you must do hard labor finding and reporting bugs to earn your redemption. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Seth Mandelbrot Registered User Join date: 18 May 2006 Posts: 17	07-24-2006 19:31 Yes, that's the impression you should give new people. A beta version. Pure genius.
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:43 From: Ghoti Nyak Maybe instead... get caught griefing, etc, you get sent to the Preview Grid where you must do hard labor finding and reporting bugs to earn your redemption. -Ghoti LMAO... bug hunt... literally
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 19:44 From: Seth Mandelbrot Yes, that's the impression you should give new people. A beta version. Pure genius. its very simple to show them on the intro that this is a beta version and the main paid for version is more stable
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 20:00 Made the idea more clear.... Authenticated free accts can go to the main grid. This makes the griefers easy to track. UNauthenticated accts go to the Preview grid.
Jack Harker Registered User Join date: 4 May 2005 Posts: 552	07-24-2006 20:05 From: Seth Mandelbrot Yes, that's the impression you should give new people. A beta version. Pure genius. What, you mean the truth will scare them off?
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 20:15 The current truth scares me.. I come here to play but instead I get IMs all day asking for replacements to my scripts because of this "downgrade". So do hundreds of other scripters.
Cow Hand Registered User Join date: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 292	07-24-2006 20:18 From: Psyke Phaeton We have 2 big problems in SL 1) Free accounts people on the main grid causing grief 2) The Preview grid not having enuf testers Lets stick the Free UNAUTHENTICATED accounts on the Preview grid?? Authenticated accts can go to Main grid Too protectionist. The nOObie crime wave is way overblown.
Tiger Zobel hoarder Join date: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 391	07-24-2006 20:21 Yep... nothing like discriminating against an entire group for the actions of a few... Hey... maybe we should make sure we do that with the other two groups that griefers come from. Also known as Verified Basic and Premium members... _____________________ Inescapable - Quality BDSM furniture, Pet Play and other assorted items, at reasonable prices.
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-24-2006 20:33 From: Tiger Zobel Yep... nothing like discriminating against an entire group for the actions of a few... Hey... maybe we should make sure we do that with the other two groups that griefers come from. Also known as Verified Basic and Premium members... No one is discriminated against.. become authenticated and you are in. Use paypal, mobile numer or CC just like before. Should we allow people access to ATMs when they can't verify themselves?
Jennifer Christensen Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 112	07-24-2006 21:39 At the birthday party for SL, I asked Philip about putting unauthenticated accounts on the Preview Grid, and he replied "Jennifer, we thought of that, but it won't scale."
Darkfoxx Bunyip Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2005 Posts: 121	07-24-2006 23:38 From: Psyke Phaeton No one is discriminated against.. become authenticated and you are in. Use paypal, mobile numer or CC just like before. Should we allow people access to ATMs when they can't verify themselves? If only a bankcard would count as verification for SL... But alas, only a few creditcard types count. So, it would kinda suck VERY MUCH for a lot of my fellow Dutch friends, who don't have a creditcard that is accepted by LL, who don't have a cellphone from a US phone company, who don't use Paypal as that requires a creditcard to begin with (and may I mention, is quite bitchy about what you buy with it) and who do not grief... Either LL needs to accept more ways for verification and not 'discriminate' against non- US based players (like expanding the list of phone companies you can use to also include international companies, and include other creditcard systems beyond American express or VISA), or we all need to stop whining for discrimination against 'Unverifieds'.... May I suggest the option to send in a photocopy of (international) ID cards to get varified? Seems to be enough proof of age for a lot of companies..?
Aodhan McDunnough Gearhead Join date: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,518	07-25-2006 00:01 Nice suggestion, many of the people you suggest putting on the preview grid are those who don't know what to look for. _____________________ Aodhan's Forge shop at slurl.com/secondlife/Rieul/95/213/107
MIRAGE Zephyr Registered User Join date: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 45	07-25-2006 00:21 Detention camps, good idea.. lol NOT!
Psyke Phaeton Psyke's Defense Systems Join date: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 197	07-25-2006 00:23 From: MIRAGE Zephyr Detention camps, good idea.. lol NOT! LMAO... evil reply that one LOL Detention camp? No Jail? nope not really But yes LL needs more universally accepted authentication methods. And authenticating doesnt need to cost anything. _____________________ "Our goal is to have as little control as possible." -- Corey "Linden" Ondrejka, Vice President of Product Development, Linden Lab. 16th January 2006
Baba Yamamoto baba@slinked.net Join date: 26 May 2003 Posts: 1,024	07-25-2006 02:01 Stop thinking.... it hurts me to read what you come up with _____________________ Open Metaverse Foundation - http://www.openmetaverse.org Meerkat viewer - http://meerkatviewer.org

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