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Copywright Infringement that threatens all SL builders

Elphaba Gould
Registered User
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 47
04-21-2006 10:49
I do Not apologies for my club  Nor is Lindens involved in anyway, I only moved the club to keep your immature drama away from my shop keepers. As your drama ONLY hurts them, and they have done nothing to you, or me for that matter. The club is still up, and running. Just not here. I don’t have a shop here, I do not profit off this sim, so really what do your signs and bad traffic hurt me? It doesn’t, only hurts the shop keepers here, who you supposedly respect.

I am not running or scared in anyway, as I have done nothing to run or be scared of. I love how you just assume that you know what is going on, kind of like how this whole post started?
Next time make sure you have all the facts before you post, or you will just come out looking stupid.

Elphaba Gould

wasen't this post locked?
Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,415
04-21-2006 10:50
From: Billy Grace
What I see above reads kinda like this:

“I'm sorry that me and my f*cktard friends copied your club and got caught. We had no intention of being caught, but we were. LL got involved and we are about to sh*t our pants and had to take it down.

Being the f*cktards we are, we will in no way, shape or form apologize to Tya for shamelessly stealing from her and slandering her name when we got caught, instead we will bitch and whine about other irrelevant stuff having nothing to do with this issue.

Our entire f*cktard group thinks our sh*t doesn't stink so we will not accept any responsibility for our actions, instead we will hold our f*cktard selves blameless even though the entire SL community now knows exactly what we did.”

BTW, Is it no coincidence I have never heard of you or anyone in your group? I think that THERE is still taking members, might wanna give that a try.

Oh, and Ramma… I am banned from a sim I didn’t know existed till 2 days ago? The horror of it. How can I go on???? Had you and your pals started by apologizing for what you did and offer to remove it then this would have gone another way. Instead you chose to attack Tya, lie about copying the build and taking an elitist attitude. PFFT

I want to applaud LL for becoming involved and supporting the many talented builders in SL. Creative talent that exists in this community needs to be protected from people like you and your clan. Bravo LL!!!!! Long live King Phillip!!!



Ah Billy Sanma, I did not copy anything of yours. I did not make any lies about Tya Sanma. I did not know for sure you were banned from the other sim and thus could not confirm the dismanting of the other club. The owners of the other club are not my friends and they are not in my family group. I did not know that either club existed until your posting. I have no intention of visiting either club.

You should be very happy that you got your way and please stop slandering me. It is against the TOS. This is my last comment on this subject. Have a good life in your empty club *giggle* bye bye
Lola Lament
Registered User
Join date: 16 Mar 2004
Posts: 5
You, once again, have it all wrong
04-21-2006 10:50
I wasn't going to lower myself, by posting here again, but this is all just insane. First of all, we were NOT told to take down the club, no Linden contacted us about anything. If they are involved, we never heard a word from them. We really don't care about being known, and care even less whether anyone here knows who we are. We don't do anything for anyone but oursleves. We don't feel the need to impress anyone, ever. We banned Billy simply because he was annoying us...same thing we do to everyone that annoys us. I can't believe that any of you, have nothing better to do but jump on the bandwagon of childish drama.

Tya, herself, has things for sale, that are copies of things already made. I have a black suit, almost identical to the one shes selling, made in 2004, by someone else. Maybe she should be harrassed? As far as Billy calling us what he did, in his last post...I believe this shows the mentality here. The fact that he has to attack, anyone that supports us, says alot about him, and his logic. Maybe he should concentrate on finding bigger and better words to use, rather than the obvious need for drama.

Tya, I do have to say I'm a bit jealous, it must be nice to have a bf, who can sit home all day, posting silly little words on the forums...although I think I would be a bit embarrassed about his choice of silly little words. :rolleyes:
Billy Grace
Land Market Facilitator
Join date: 8 Mar 2004
Posts: 2,307
04-21-2006 11:21
From: Elphaba Gould
I do Not apologies for my club 

Oh but you should. It is pathetic that you can’t come up with your own ideas and even more pathetic that when confronted you attack the victim instead of taking responsibility for your actions.

From: Elphaba Gould
I am not running or scared in anyway, snip…

Coulda fooled me… lafs

From: Elphaba Gould
Next time make sure you have all the facts before you post, or you will just come out looking stupid.

rofl… you have the market on that... everyone who saw your build is still laughing at how poorly it was done.
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Billy Grace
Land Market Facilitator
Join date: 8 Mar 2004
Posts: 2,307
04-21-2006 11:22
From: Lola Lament
I wasn't going to lower myself, by posting here again, but this is all just insane.

Nice to see how willing you are to “lower” yourself lola.

From: Lola Lament
snip… We really don't care about being known, and care even less whether anyone here knows who we are.

Good, we agree, I don’t care either… lol.

From: Lola Lament
We don't do anything for anyone but oursleves.

This statement pretty much sums up you and your clan’s attitude for all to see. Ty for that.

From: Lola Lament
We don't feel the need to impress anyone, ever.

Good thing, I am not impressed and from reading the replies to this thread nobody else is either.

From: Lola Lament
We banned Billy simply because he was annoying us...same thing we do to everyone that annoys us.

As if I care… rofl.

From: Lola Lament
I can't believe that any of you, have nothing better to do but jump on the bandwagon of childish drama.

News flash for you lola, this community will stand behind it’s own when they see BS like this. Get used to it.

From: Lola Lament
Snip… As far as Billy calling us what he did, in his last post...I believe this shows the mentality here. The fact that he has to attack, anyone that supports us, says alot about him, and his logic. Snip…

I call it like I see it, get used to that too.
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Tya Fallingbridge
Proud Prim Whore
Join date: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 790
04-21-2006 11:40
From: Elphaba Gould
I do Not apologies for my club  Nor is Lindens involved in anyway, I only moved the club to keep your immature drama away from my shop keepers. As your drama ONLY hurts them, and they have done nothing to you, or me for that matter. The club is still up, and running. Just not here. I don’t have a shop here, I do not profit off this sim, so really what do your signs and bad traffic hurt me? It doesn’t, only hurts the shop keepers here, who you supposedly respect.

I am not running or scared in anyway, as I have done nothing to run or be scared of. I love how you just assume that you know what is going on, kind of like how this whole post started?
Next time make sure you have all the facts before you post, or you will just come out looking stupid.

Elphaba Gould

wasen't this post locked?



You have only yourself to blame for your renters/retailers getting a little miffed at their drop in their sales. If you had not copied in the first place, none of this would have happened.

I actually feel sorry for you, I really don’t have to go into details why, I believe you have made “why” very clear to myself and the rest of the community.

The only person you owe an apology to, is me. Careful what you say to others, it will come back to me and it already has. I am just glad I have morals and protect others privacy by NOT sharing chats, which is against the TOS.

Tya
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Elphaba Gould
Registered User
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 47
*rolls eyes*
04-21-2006 11:58
well I haven't shared a chat.... so thats a non issue. But your quoting TOS to me ???? That's funny.

As far as I am aware, my vendors have not lost sales, if they have, they haven't told me, but if you are to continue harassing my sim (and by this post its obvious that you are), I dont want them to be involved, sorry if that wasent clear.

Ok done with this post now.

I ask that anyone in support of Pollyesthers sim please not post here, really it solves nothing, and only starts spelling/grammar wars when people have nothing left to bitch about.
Tya Fallingbridge
Proud Prim Whore
Join date: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 790
04-21-2006 13:03
From: Lola Lament
I wasn't going to lower myself, by posting here again, but this is all just insane. First of all, we were NOT told to take down the club, no Linden contacted us about anything. If they are involved, we never heard a word from them. We really don't care about being known, and care even less whether anyone here knows who we are. We don't do anything for anyone but oursleves. We don't feel the need to impress anyone, ever. We banned Billy simply because he was annoying us...same thing we do to everyone that annoys us. I can't believe that any of you, have nothing better to do but jump on the bandwagon of childish drama.

Tya, herself, has things for sale, that are copies of things already made. I have a black suit, almost identical to the one shes selling, made in 2004, by someone else. Maybe she should be harrassed? As far as Billy calling us what he did, in his last post...I believe this shows the mentality here. The fact that he has to attack, anyone that supports us, says alot about him, and his logic. Maybe he should concentrate on finding bigger and better words to use, rather than the obvious need for drama.

Tya, I do have to say I'm a bit jealous, it must be nice to have a bf, who can sit home all day, posting silly little words on the forums...although I think I would be a bit embarrassed about his choice of silly little words. :rolleyes:



Ok lol that is a good one.. lets see.. my black suit.. I have two of them.. one was made in 2004.. lets see population of SL at that time.. maybe 500.. so you think maybe someone copied me. I have never in 3 years have been accused of copying, until you, and the other one, I made from scratch in Photoshop. Oh gasp, Tya knows how to create things on her own. Look at my join date hunny.

And as for Billy, I have no control of what he says. I don’t need someone to stand up for me. FYI I believe he his posting these from his big comfy plush office, over looking the river. ;)
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Billy Grace
Land Market Facilitator
Join date: 8 Mar 2004
Posts: 2,307
04-21-2006 13:30
From: Elphaba Gould
snip...

Ok done with this post now.

I ask that anyone in support of Pollyesthers sim please not post here, really it solves nothing, and only starts spelling/grammar wars when people have nothing left to bitch about.

Oh good, I won't have to respond to any more lies and rambling BS from you or your clan. Works for me.
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Tralos Westerburg
XTSL Radio Lead DJ
Join date: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 43
04-21-2006 13:37
Regardless of the reason why, the build is down. End of story. I think it's time that we all just let this water pass under the bridge. Bickering beyond this point is only going to make everyone involved look worse. :(
Zapoteth Zaius
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Posts: 5,634
04-21-2006 14:09
This thread is following a similar path as the previous one, and as such is being locked for Linden Review.


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