Copywright Infringement that threatens all SL builders

I wish I could dammit, but you already are a superstar!

Now I've had a few of my ideas copied in SL, Lauks Nest being the most prominent. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so they say. Laugh it off and get on with your Second Life, not much else you can do really.

In addition, you'll have certain obligations under Swedish laws. For example, the fact that you performed the "physical" work to create these items in Sweden, means Swedish taxation laws apply to any income that you make.

So, the slightly more complex answer to the question is.... as a foreign national, both Swedish *and* US laws can apply to your work in SL. You'll need somebody versed in Swedish business law to provide precise details on which local laws you need to worry about.

Your work would be impossible to copy. You are a master builder in your own right no one in my opinion will ever come close to holding a candle to you.

But then, is creating content in a virtual environment publishing? Currently, there is a great deal of discussion as to whether material posted on the Internet in any form can be considered speech with respect to the First Ammendment. Support for this is piecemeal - copyright infringement cases involving purely web-based distribution are few and far between, and to date there haven't been any high-profile landmark cases.

You'd be faced with proving five major premises:

1. that virtual reality is, in fact, a publishing medium. (So far, no strong legal precedent has been set stating that it is).
2. that the work exists in some form that identifies it as a discrete identifiable object, which considering that something in virtual reality exists only in a theoretical form, described only by patterns of bytes on a disk, or patterns of light on the screen, would be VERY difficult to do.
3. the work copied was, in fact, a distinct and unique work (hard to do, considering its similarity to real world designs and other clubs within SL itself).
4. that the person crossed the line between inspiration and plagiarism, which is a highly subjective matter, and
5. that the person MEANT to do it, which is usually nearly impossible to prove.

These factors are probably why the Lindens told the presumably injured party that there wasn't a lot they could do..

You are too modest! You have to be among the best builders in Second Life!

If you are refering to me,... LL had not stated they cant not do anything

Seems to me this all would have had a very different outcome if Tya had been flattered (and seen/taken it as a compliment) that someone thought her club nice enough to mimic.

Hmm, didn´t I hear "Your World. Your Imagination. Your problem."
Stealing will mostly happen all the time, its up to you to sue the bandit or not, if LL wanted to deal with that issue, then probably would need to create LBI (Linden Bureau of Investigation) of sorts for there will be zillions uberduber ammount of people reporting

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Please note that Linden Lab will fully comply with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) which updates copyright law to cover Internet realities. Copyright infringing materials found within the world of Second Life can be identified and removed via Linden Lab's DMCA compliance process described here: http://secondlife.com/corporate/dmca.php

wooot! there you go Tya. There's hope.

Tesla, that worked as a sign of LL awareness, but nothing more.

To be real about this, what's the point?

--The point isn't to walk that line between RL and SL laws and digital best IP practices for the millionth time.
--The point isn't to plumb that freshman art school subject of 'ripoff / quote / sourcing /originality.
--The point isn't to make judgments on the relative quality of the two builds--what the hell does that matter?

None of these issues is going to be solved, no matter that a few SL luminaries, yea their radiance visible from orbiting satellites and angels, raise their eyebrows.

The point is to shame those who, as well as we can objectively say such a thing, have been dishonest and violated their own conscience. Simply put, that's all we can do.

By now, is there enough outrage? Well, it's probably time that Tya moved on and not wallowed in negative emotions. I for one, however, have seen enough to steel my opinions of those involved, and that's not saying nothing, because reputation is a calling card. It's a small situation, but even I'm not so uninterested or new not to have seen the Pahoa/Proko thread and realize that it's a spark such as this that can start something good.

Stealing is supposed to be flattering? Get a grip. pfft

jrrdraco… hmmm… perhaps you would like to rethink that crap you just wrote? Double pfft to you

oops... see above and try again!

Nice story you have written here... found in the fictional section of your nearest bookstore.

ummm... nope... try again


oops... wrong again


It's a tripple play!!!! Give that girl a cigar... wrong again.

Deep breaths are a good idea... for you and your clan right about now.

they tried to get me to work at the rip off club...tho it wont go far as theres NO reason tog o there where other clubs acually have prizes..polly=copy=bad IMHO

It isn't a question of the rip off being successful or not, after 30 seconds in that piece of junk I got a headache because of the textures they chose. I am still having nightmares of star filled rooms... hehe

Cant you give up on this? Your crying is becoming a real nuisance.

Also I am not a drug addit so please no cigar for me! Oh are you making a threat againt me and my friends? What have I done to you or to your "spouse" Tya?

Oh, have some cheese!

Yawns... I remember when I had my first beer too.

I am sorry! Here is something for you to cry into! Suppose you dont like cheese!

its been solved why keep bringing it up ? let it go its over with its a game enjoy the best method in solving a problem is talking to the other party like a mature person not throwing a hissy fit and bringing outsiders into it for the sole purpose of attempting to get people to say aww thats horriable *pats you on back* the last thread was closed for a reason and should of been left at that. if you really have to dwell on something to this point you may want to look at why you play second life and ask yourself if its really for you. and layouts = not copyright period you can scream and shout all you want but you dont own a copyright for said layout thats like me building a studded belt and say OH NO someone else made one they are breaking copyright. so basically just let it go its over with the club is no longer there if you cant get over it have your self some french cries

I think Billy has been banned from their sim as they have been banned from his sim. I know the other club is gone by viewing it. It is a pitty we cant work out our differences over a pint? I suppose we are going to have to have our builds approved by their lordships first? Good thing I really STINK building! My builds are not just UGLY but use too many prims

What I see above reads kinda like this:



BTW, Is it no coincidence I have never heard of you or anyone in your group? I think that THERE is still taking members, might wanna give that a try.

Oh, and Ramma… I am banned from a sim I didn’t know existed till 2 days ago? The horror of it. How can I go on???? Had you and your pals started by apologizing for what you did and offer to remove it then this would have gone another way. Instead you chose to attack Tya, lie about copying the build and taking an elitist attitude. PFFT

I want to applaud LL for becoming involved and supporting the many talented builders in SL. Creative talent that exists in this community needs to be protected from people like you and your clan. Bravo LL!!!!! Long live King Phillip!!!