Selling Free Items

Because it's not a finate source of items. Even if the item is no copy (Most are not), the item exists in infinite, free-to-you supply at it's source.

It would be like going in to a store, grabbing all the free samples, comming out, selling them to people for money, then returning to grab some more free samples and repeating.

This is what they should do.

For my own products, I make most of them copy/mod (houses). I'm perfectly aware a person with a lot of land could make a number of copies of the same house.

For accessories people might want to give as gifts, I make them transfer/sell but not copy mod. I'm perfectly aware someone could sell one of them for more money than I charged.

When I made my hippo for the Infohub, I made it copy/transfer, no mod, and for free. I'm perfectly aware someone could actually try to sell one of those, lol.

Given the system as it is, I mark my stuff the way I want to, and if it gets resold for more, I don't care. After all, I could make it all no copy/no mod and no transfer if I cared more about the money that a few might make off of it, than I care about the services that the majority need, depending on the item involved.

With this system, I make my choices and those other people are going to be able to do whatever they want to with the item they bought from me, within those permissions.

Given the simple and appropriate system Osgeld suggests above, we would all be much happier. I wonder why they haven't done it.

I have met new players who have no idea there is anything wrong with selling the things they have in their library even. I tell them it is frowned upon, and they are surprised.

coco

For those of you not wanting to be abused, STOP!

You don't want your yardsales classified as rippoffs, just don't sell free stuff! and don't give me any lame story why you can't or shouldn't have to.

Someone slaps you for being a fuckttard and you sit there and complain about it. my analogy may not be great but you get the point.

if you have stuff out there now that your reselling and don't want to be seen as a twat, take it down, most people are pretty decent and will give you the benefit of th edbout.

why don't people not be ungrateful cockjugglers, who cares if you now have to put some effort into making a few bucks of some crap you have to make yourself, more power to him!

try ripping off first landers and leave the content guy alone!!

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See how that works?

See I *AM* the common guy - you are the leech.. the parasite, the boil on the arsehole of SL...

not to interupt but after that bout of terrets i found it amusing you used the word arse

ok please continue

Your posts reflect how long you've been in SL Justin.



No one is complicating anything. We're stating facts.



There isn't an apropriate box for people to be able to hand out my objects to friends, put it down and let people take copies, and NOT resell it for profit.



Are you now trying to justify stealing from the homeless?



WRONG! Reitsuki is 100% right, I have IMed multiple people about reselling freebies. 80% of the time they throw foul language your way, refuse, and make threats. 19.99% of the time people ignore you, tell you to go away or say "make me".



If you're selling my freebie agaist my wishes, its my bussiness.



The "land barons" aren't doing anything wrong. They're not taking someones gift to the comunity, putting it in their own store and selling it, without the owners wishes.



All in all, we shouldn't have to IM people as tell them to take it down, THEY should have to IM US to get OUR permission. The sooner they make a resell box the sooner I'll start making freebies again.

Anyone reselling freebies, knowing what they're doing, in my book, is a theif.

Go get 'em Siggy. By the way are you in the market for a really neat hot tub I am selling?

You can, its not yet against the rules, I'll just consider you a lowlife and a theif.



That maybe true for some freebies, it may not for others. When I create a freebie, its mainly to help people. I don't create freebies anymore, mainly because of people like you reselling them.

It doesn't matter WHAT I put in it, I've put notecards in them, put DO NOT RESELL in the description, they ALWAYS end up being sold at yard sales etc.



You said yourself it isn't real life, so stop bringing real life into it.



Wrong, anyone can build their own stuff, hardly anyone comes into SL and starts building everything perfectly, like most things, it takes practise, get used to it. And again, I'm not saying you can't resell freebies, I just won't have any respect for you, what-so-ever.



As I said before, theres no way I can give away a freebie, let people give it to friends etc, and not resell it, if you find a way, let me know. And good to see you abusing the free market by the way..

And.. Go Siggy, Go Siggy!

Its Tourettes, and I'm Australian.

Ever used that as an excuse to people? I can't help FUCK help typing BALLICKER swear words because I have COCKJUGGLER.. tourettes...

You'd be suprised how many ppl will fall for it.

On a more serious note we had to play the Tourettes Institute rugby team once - great team, but man did their cheerleaders suck!

Aren't those the same thing?

Reposted for visability do it doesn't get lost at the bottom..

Please VOTE for a RESELL Permission

All available votes are applied to this feature request.

This is a no brainer and in my book more important then rippling water, but meh...what do I know.

Thank you Rose! I hope it will be acknowledged soon

my votes are on it too.... well i have 3 votes on making ripple water version 2 but...

can't wait to see what's going on when the population here hits about a half million. you people are in for a big surprize.

what did that guy say in that movie wall street, greed is good, and this one ain't new either, change is necssary. when the changes come they won't be in the favor of the anti-sellers here, they will be in favor of the free market!

this is not a closed sanctuary for your mislead moral values, this is a place to for your wildest dreams to come true. if you think that you can stop that from happening you are dumber then i ever thought.

wake up, this place is all about money. from linden on down to the newest of newbies it all equals money. take away the means to make such and goodbye second life.

if i took the time to look back in the older fourms i bet i would find all the people here whining also were whining about some other stupid shit in the past that is now been passed by and forgettin about.

Theft is theft, whatever spin you want to put on it.

There is no "mislead moral values".... if you are selling someone else's work as your own, regardless of whether you are charging for it, then you are wrong. Period. No negotation required.

Lewis

And until that day comes I'll take great pleasure in fucking you 8 ways of wednesday.

Bend on over, touch your toes, I'll show you where the monster goes.

Siggy, I'm not sure if I'd actually have quite put it that way...... but I do agree with the sentiments of your post and the thoughts you are trying to convey

Lewis

^ first against the wall when the revolution comes

You are a complete moron. Greed is only "good" when you do not have to face your customers. Or when the greed itself is hidden. Or when every single competition is the same as you. But you obviously missed the entire point of that film. Greed is not good, it turns you into a immoral pile of steaming monkey poo.

But in SL you cannot hide behind security and walls of phone banks in India. In a place that the only real way to "get product moved" is by word of mouth, the people selling freebies are left behind when people know how to find out who made it. What happens when a person finds out that you didn't make them? I personally would send angry IMs, AR you, and tell EVERYONE I know. You sell freebies and you will be thought of as someone who rips people off. The masses do not like being ripped off.

If you insisit on bringing real world values into this, how many companies give away free items to the public? If you copy a film and go around selling it in the "free market" and I had made that film, I would have you arrested. End of story.

At the end of the day, no matter how many people are in SL the best designers are going to be at the top of the virtual food chain because the creations they make are amazing. Because they have worked hard for years to get to the point. Freebies are always going to be of lesser quality of these items. Most of the people in SL buy the "top" things as a status symbol and they soon find out what to look for. Freebies will never fall into this catagory.

If you want to make money, learn how to make things. If you are crap at it, it's no ones fault but your own. No reason to feed off what other's have worked on.

Hhaha I love a good HHGTTG quote

See thats whats wrong with the world - someone reads a highschool economics textbook and watches Wall Street and suddenly they got the idea they're some kind of shaker and mover.

Thats the understanding of the 'Second Life Free Market (tm)' - you take free shit and you market it.

Piss off enough people and they stop making free shit and *wwomph* there goes the business model like a fart in the wind.

Pity is the only REAL thing of value you have in SL is your reputation, and thats pretty much it - that will make and break a business faster than a line of blow in a vegas back room.

Some are gonna realise that way too late

Anyway, more seriously, I'm now putting the following header in all of my scripts - I decided that the current one was a bit unclear...

// ---LICENCE START---
// The latest version of this script is always available for free
// from Ordinal Malaprop via dispenser in my home area or directly.

// This script may be distributed as desired and used as desired
// under the condition that:

// - this header licence information is not altered;
// - it is clear in the documentation of any item using it that
// the script is being used, with author (just a quick mention
// is fine, e.g. "Uses <script name> by Ordinal Malaprop");
// - it is not sold BY ITSELF, UNMODIFIED.

// I would appreciate it if you let me know if you are using the
// script yourself, but that's not part of the licence.
// ---LICENCE END---

Anyone see any problems there? It's kind of similar to the CC "Attribution" licence, but with a little extra involved.

Methinks he's already blown that one by announcing to the world that he rips off other people's work and sells them for profit, making out that they're his own.

Oops.

First rule of crime.... if you're going to do something illegal, immoral, or just downright out of order, the last thing you do is publicise it freely.

Lewis