Partisian Agains't Yard Sale Queens to all Merchants, check your products for dupping

We can demand anything we want! We do not have to buy their sodai gomi. Ok, I call apon a BOYCOTT on those who wish to impose themselves apon others and steal our Lindens with nothing in return. We dont need your permission to look after our best intrests! Yours is not spice but hubris!

Doesn't mean you get it. Don't like the permissions they offer? Don't buy it. No need to rant.

I dont like a lot of things in SL. Can not even get a good skin here! Most of them have more makeup than Tammy Fye Baker!

About your permissions, dosnt mean anyone other than a newbie will buy your stuff.

My permissions are no copy/mod/transfer (with exceptions). I'm well aware that people will be able to 'dupe' my items. I just hope for every duper theres someone who honestly learns how to build and create their own content.


For skins I recommend Nomine and DFO.

No transfer means losing something. What if I want to make a present of something to someone? What if I just get tired of it?

No Mod means the same but different. What if it is not what I want? I have a skin from Nomine but it is just not quite right. I like it but it is not what I want. I asked about a custom skin and the answer was NO! It seemed that the creator didnt want to be bothered from customers. That is ok too for I will not buy another thing from them. I thought the creator was very RUDE.

No copy means the risk of losing someting for good. I have lost Tarns after getting hit with security scripts. Good thing I had a backup copy! I understand the reason for no transfer in this case.

I do not know DFO. Will they make a custom skin for me?

I am beginning to think your lack of understanding here is intentional. It isn't amusing anymore...just annoying now.

Try being a designer in SL with the level of business the Munchflower has and see if you have the time, energy or desire to do custom work. LOL. You amaze me.

I would love to see you go buy a car or a novel or any such product in real life and find they weren't what you wanted exactly...and see if you had the guts to call up the car company or the book authour and ask for them to change it to a custom one just for you. LOL. Amazing indeed.

*wanders off laughing*

Your hubris is so vast to leave me dumbfounded! Our customers should not be considered annoying, you need to get some customer service training! In my RL job, I get the privilege of talking with customers. Yes it is a privilege to have customers; they are the people who pay our salaries! Without them, we would be unemployed. If you worked for me, you would watch the Phone Doctor and other such tapes until you got the message. If that did not work, would be forced to release you.



About cars true, there is only so much you can do in the order. However you forget that they are free to modify them to their hearts content after the purchase! The cars are their property to be done with as they please! If they want to paint it pink, it can be painted pink!

If you dont have enough time for your customers, I suggest you hire some help! Let them do the more muldane work. As for you, I have no plans to do purchase with such a business as yours. As I said, your product is not what is desired and can not modify it afterward to make sat.

Hubris or hybris (Greek referred in Ancient Greece to a reckless disregard for the rights of another person resulting in some kind of social degradation for the victim. According to its popular modern definition hubris is exaggerated pride or self-confidence often resulting in fatal retribution.

You now class yourself as a victim? Please explain your victimization here? I am at a loss. I don't recall anyone forcing you to buy any of their products you seem to dislike. How does how they choose to sell their products in anyway make you a vitim to them?

Yes...certainly you can modify a car after you buy it IRL. The difference in RL and in SL is in RL having the ability to modify a car does not make it also possible to make exact copies of the car or rip off parts of the car for duplication. In SL it does. If what can be done to rip off the creators of products in SL were possible in RL, you can bet that there would be even greater restrictions than in SL.

I run my own businesses in both SL and real life. I am 39 and have been a business owner since I was 19. I have plenty of customer service experience. I also have lots of human nature experience, and I know very well some people can not be pleased no matter what you do, and any business that attempts to please all customers at any cost goes out of business very fast indeed.

There is a difference between being kind, friendly and helpful to your customers, and letting them take advantage of you and walk all over you. Business decisions are made every day as to where to draw those lines. Custom work is rarely done by many businesses in the real world and why you expect SL to be any different is beyond me to understand since the reasons are the same.

LOL...you don't plan to buy from me? Do you think just refusing to buy from anyone in SL that disagrees with you will make the world change to your satisfaction? Sorry, but the reasons for why my products are mod/copy/no trans are dictated by the products and the realities of SL business...not by your singular wishes. You don't even know what my products are I expect...as you just stated they were not modifiable when my products are mod. So, your threat to boycott me when you don't even have a clue what you are boycotting makes me laugh.

I think you should check with people who do actual business with me in SL before you decry my business practices. I have had nothing but happy customers and I treat them with great respect and offer helpfulness and responsiveness to their needs. You however are not a customer of mine (I checked), so my responses to you here have no bearing on my customer service practices or skills.

I am reacting to your obvious lack of understanding of basic business practice and the rights of creators to not be ripped off by people. That you argue so vigerously for ful mod perms on products that take a me a LOT of time and a LOT of money to make...I fear you are exactly the sort of person who likely rips off the genuine artists here. Thus my reactions.

You certainly do not represent the average customer of Sl businesses, most of which are very happy with the products they purchase and understand the need for any creator to have basic protection from thieves.

You can sit here and rant all you like, threaten all you like, but it doesn't change anything about how SL was designed and how permissions work. Nor does it change human nature and the risk all creators here take concerning using certain permission combinations. I think you need to be ranting at Linden Labs to change the permission options to suit you and still protect the creators rather than ranting at the designers and creators in SL who are merely doing their best to provide products and make a fair wage for the amount of work they put into them.

P.S. - The application of the term "hubris" to me made several people who read this and know me laugh out loud. I am most often accused of being too passive, too submissive, too nice to people, even when they abuse me and take advantage of me. I am a submissive, people-pleasing, and self-degrading person and I go out of my way to help and please others...to a fault even, and at my own detriment often. I rise to the level of making these comments only as a defense to people I see you attacking here that I know are undeserving of your exaggerated and skewed statements.

I have seen my massage table, which I made, including the animations, for sale at yard sales. This is being done without my permission.

A yard sale should only sell the ORIGINAL item, not copies of it unless the holder of the sale is the creator.

If you see my massage table for sale, tell the owner that it is stolen and see if they have any kind of ethics and integrity at all.

You going to reimburse them for what they paid for it Vivienne?

or do ethics and morality not apply to you?

Thisis my issue as well. A garage sale is not a business. If it's a business, it's not a garage sale. If it happens every day or even once a week, it's not a garage sale.

Then what is a Flea Market?

Read my lips: (capitalization does not imply shouting in this post)

MAKE YOUR FREEBIE NO COPY

or

MAKE YOUR FREEBIE NO TRANSFER


why is this information so hard to consume and apply, I just don't understand.

Troy

LOL. This thread is funny as hell. Wait until the game becomes known in some of the less popular countries. You'll be able to get anything you want for L$1. It's only a matter of time. I'm surprised that camping lasted so long without the gold farmers from other games coming in and taking every last pad, chair, tub, and table.

Mark my words. It's only a matter of time. Anything you can build someone else can build cheaper. And giving away your products by checking those other 2 little boxes off is just plain stupid. If I were that stupid I'd be pissed too.

As for the original topic that Blake posted about, I'm still not sure I understand. Someone cloned your shapes? Someone sold them for money than they paid? I'm still missing the point. Sorry.