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AJ DaSilva

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03-11-2006 11:19

You know what? You can't do fades or cuts in SL either.

Anyone who knows video production should really be able to see the lipsynching's been overlayed afterwards. I don't see anything wrong with using it to promote SL.

Moopf Murray

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03-11-2006 12:20

From: AJ DaSilva

You know what? You can't do fades or cuts in SL either.

Anyone who knows video production should really be able to see the lipsynching's been overlayed afterwards. I don't see anything wrong with using it to promote SL.

Maybe you should read the "Making Of" page before you comment:

From: someone

Mouthing Off
Probably the most unique aspect of this production is its emulation of speech. Linden Lab developers created a beta version of Second Life that enabled me to map Quick Time movies onto avatar face meshes. This was done to examine the validity and potential of visemes (facial positions that articulate certain sounds in speech). I used AfterEffects to composite DV footage of moving mouths onto character face maps, and rendered them as Quick Time movies. Using the beta tool set, I was able to cleanly map the movies onto the avatars.

Nope, done in Second Life, but in a special "beta" version, so it's not available in the standard client. If the lip-syncing was done outside, then I wouldn't have commented as I have. But it wasn't, it was done in-world with a tool we don't have. That's what I was talking about.

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AJ DaSilva

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03-11-2006 12:30

Oh, okay. I'm kinda surprised that just using a prim or two over the avatar's mouth wasn't good enough.

Moopf Murray

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03-11-2006 12:35

From: AJ DaSilva

Oh, okay. I'm kinda surprised that just using a prim or two over the avatar's mouth wasn't good enough.

I'd love to see that done and it look like the same quality as the lip-syncing in the video.

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AJ DaSilva

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03-11-2006 12:40

From: Moopf Murray

I'd love to see that done and it look like the same quality as the lip-syncing in the video.

It'd be interesting to know if it was done the way it was because LL wanted to test it out or because it was actually too hard to do with prims.

Moopf Murray

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03-11-2006 12:51

From: AJ DaSilva

It'd be interesting to know if it was done the way it was because LL wanted to test it out or because it was actually too hard to do with prims.

Huh? This reply is very different to the one I got in my email

I guess your edit was for more than not quoting *shrug*

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AJ DaSilva

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03-11-2006 12:55

From: Moopf Murray

Huh? This reply is very different to the one I got in my email

I guess your edit was for more than not quoting *shrug*

The edit was because I barely skimmed what you'd quoted from me and thought it was another bit you'd quoted. What I wrote before didn't actually make sense when I realised what had actually been quoted.

AJ DaSilva

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03-11-2006 15:23

And AJ said, Let there be link: and there was link.
And AJ saw the link, that it was to a report on a talk by LL about the machinema.

Caroline Apollo

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03-11-2006 15:40

I enjoyed watching this very much. Excellent Job! It is so amazing how far SL has come.

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Starax Statosky

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03-11-2006 15:44

From: Caroline Apollo

I enjoyed watching this very much. Excellent Job! It is so amazing how far SL has come.

She says, logging into City of Heroes.

Hi Caroline!!!

SL Machinima "Bells and Spurs" - In house production
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-11-2006 11:19 You know what? You can't do fades or cuts in SL either. Anyone who knows video production should really be able to see the lipsynching's been overlayed afterwards. I don't see anything wrong with using it to promote SL.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	03-11-2006 12:20 From: AJ DaSilva You know what? You can't do fades or cuts in SL either. Anyone who knows video production should really be able to see the lipsynching's been overlayed afterwards. I don't see anything wrong with using it to promote SL. Maybe you should read the "Making Of" page before you comment: From: someone Mouthing Off Probably the most unique aspect of this production is its emulation of speech. Linden Lab developers created a beta version of Second Life that enabled me to map Quick Time movies onto avatar face meshes. This was done to examine the validity and potential of visemes (facial positions that articulate certain sounds in speech). I used AfterEffects to composite DV footage of moving mouths onto character face maps, and rendered them as Quick Time movies. Using the beta tool set, I was able to cleanly map the movies onto the avatars. Nope, done in Second Life, but in a special "beta" version, so it's not available in the standard client. If the lip-syncing was done outside, then I wouldn't have commented as I have. But it wasn't, it was done in-world with a tool we don't have. That's what I was talking about. _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-11-2006 12:30 Oh, okay. I'm kinda surprised that just using a prim or two over the avatar's mouth wasn't good enough.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	03-11-2006 12:35 From: AJ DaSilva Oh, okay. I'm kinda surprised that just using a prim or two over the avatar's mouth wasn't good enough. I'd love to see that done and it look like the same quality as the lip-syncing in the video. _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-11-2006 12:40 From: Moopf Murray I'd love to see that done and it look like the same quality as the lip-syncing in the video. It'd be interesting to know if it was done the way it was because LL wanted to test it out or because it was actually too hard to do with prims.
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	03-11-2006 12:51 From: AJ DaSilva It'd be interesting to know if it was done the way it was because LL wanted to test it out or because it was actually too hard to do with prims. Huh? This reply is very different to the one I got in my email I guess your edit was for more than not quoting shrug _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-11-2006 12:55 From: Moopf Murray Huh? This reply is very different to the one I got in my email I guess your edit was for more than not quoting shrug The edit was because I barely skimmed what you'd quoted from me and thought it was another bit you'd quoted. What I wrote before didn't actually make sense when I realised what had actually been quoted.
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-11-2006 15:23 And AJ said, Let there be link: and there was link. And AJ saw the link, that it was to a report on a talk by LL about the machinema.
Caroline Apollo Lo Lo Join date: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 288	03-11-2006 15:40 I enjoyed watching this very much. Excellent Job! It is so amazing how far SL has come. _____________________ Caroline's Jewelry and Lo Lo's accessories together in one shop SL Exchange blog
Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	03-11-2006 15:44 From: Caroline Apollo I enjoyed watching this very much. Excellent Job! It is so amazing how far SL has come. She says, logging into City of Heroes. Hi Caroline!!!

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