Stop hating the foobies.
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Maklin Deckard
Disillusioned
Join date: 9 Apr 2005
Posts: 459
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07-26-2006 13:23
From: Jonas Pierterson Or we just ban unverifieds from our land and ignore you. After all, its your own fault you remain unverified. Exactly! With his attitude, I'd class him as a future griefer. Wonder what LL was smoking with the free accounts when it attracts this kind of player? 
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Flarias Laperriere
Registered User
Join date: 4 Jul 2006
Posts: 9
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07-26-2006 13:26
So poor people are not allowed to draw-in breath?
Fuck you assholes.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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07-26-2006 13:27
From: Flarias Laperriere So poor people are not allowed to draw-in breath? Fuck you assholes. Not when you tell us to go buy things because you're too cheap to put 50 cents into a game... BANNED Won't waste my time on people who are to cheap to just get a bank account..most come with debit cards these days. Mine has Visa on it...
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Flarias Laperriere
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Join date: 4 Jul 2006
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07-26-2006 13:43
From: Jonas Pierterson Not when you tell us to go buy things because you're too cheap to put 50 cents into a game... BANNED I cannot afford a credit card I will never use and get punished for not using(my aunt learned that fact the hard way), I cannot afford a cell-phone, and I will not pay for something I will never use, if you cannot script, ask a friend. If you want to punish members of the lower class for not being stupid enough to use a cell-phone/credit card on their low incomes then shut the hell up and leave me alone.
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Flarias Laperriere
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Join date: 4 Jul 2006
Posts: 9
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07-26-2006 13:52
From: Ketra Saarinen I'm not defending anything, but there is a point here that might be missed. If someone has no payment info on file, their spending cash is most likely nil, or close to it. They probably wouldn't be shopping anyways. 250 a week allowance weens people over until they are useful....unless they are on dial-up and cannot go to Yadni's/Ivory/Tutorial without lagging themselves to death, I for one could not finish the turorial due to lag, and will tele there when this version os DLed
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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07-26-2006 13:54
From: Flarias Laperriere 250 a week allowance weens people over until they are useful....unless they are on dial-up and cannot go to Yadni's/Ivory/Tutorial without lagging themselves to death, I for one could not finish the turorial due to lag, and will tele there when this version os DLed You get what you pay for.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Maeve Morgan
ZOMG Resmod!
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 1,512
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07-26-2006 13:54
Second Life is not meant to be run on dial up, it is basically unusable and lags everyone else around you to hell and back because dial up causes a huge drain on sim resources.
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Flarias Laperriere
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Join date: 4 Jul 2006
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07-26-2006 14:09
From: Jonas Pierterson You get what you pay for. I live in New Mexico(IT IS A PART OF THE U.S., SHUT THE HELL UP!)and am concerned enough about my life to not move to Albequerqe(Shut up about the spelling, I care not enough for the people there to correct it), and cannot live in Pinon Hills, if I could I would be done with the DL already and be able to walk to my brother's residence.
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Flarias Laperriere
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Join date: 4 Jul 2006
Posts: 9
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07-26-2006 14:25
From: Jonas Pierterson You get what you pay for. I live in New Mexico(IT IS A PART OF THE U.S., SHUT THE HELL UP!)and am concerned enough about my life to not move to Albequerqe(Shut up about the spelling, I care not enough for the people there to correct it), and cannot live in Snob Hill, if I could I would be done with the DL already and be able to walk to my brother's residence.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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07-26-2006 19:16
From: Flarias Laperriere I live in New Mexico(IT IS A PART OF THE U.S., SHUT THE HELL UP!)and am concerned enough about my life to not move to Albequerqe(Shut up about the spelling, I care not enough for the people there to correct it), and cannot live in Pinon Hills, if I could I would be done with the DL already and be able to walk to my brother's residence. I'm talking about a stipend. Pay nothing for your account, take what you get for it and don't whine.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Vengence Opus
tastes like chicken legs
Join date: 11 May 2006
Posts: 71
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07-26-2006 20:24
For all of those who say they can't afford it, can't get a credit card, too poor, so on and so forth...
It's called a debit card. It does nothing to your credit. It requires $5 to keep it open, and that five dollars will stay there, as you don't have to pay a dime to be verified. I'm sure they have them in all 50 states. Unsure about elsewhere....
Oh, before anyone says anything, I AM POOR! Not homeless poor, but definitely been on the brink a couple few times.
It has nothing to do with financial status, and everything to do with credibility and accountability.
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Brucas Bardeen
Registered User
Join date: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 20
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07-26-2006 22:01
This is also a free account.
However, I have an another account which was created way back in 2004 with an old and obsolete credit card number(I was wondering how I could change the CC number without getting charged).
This name sounds better than my previous ones.
I have a part time job too(but it sucks getting paid $6.75 an hour cleaning toilets 3 days a week) but, I spend more than I do make money sadly. D:
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cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
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Question?
07-26-2006 22:32
Often we see the Lindens say that if caught doing things that will disrupt a sim, bring it down, harm the grid, etc etc etc, they will disclose your information to the authorities. How can they do this on "unverified, or no information" accounts? Just wondering if this is a hollow threat to those accounts..and if so, why o why would the Lindens shoot themselves in the foot this way ?? 
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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07-26-2006 22:53
From: Flarias Laperriere I live in New Mexico(IT IS A PART OF THE U.S., SHUT THE HELL UP!)and am concerned enough about my life to not move to Albequerqe(Shut up about the spelling, I care not enough for the people there to correct it), and cannot live in Pinon Hills, if I could I would be done with the DL already and be able to walk to my brother's residence. My 14 yr old who I just let scan your posts says you're probably close to her age. From: someone HALF-ASSED BEEPER THAT REQUIRES NO PAYMENT AND NEEDS ONLY A RETRACTABLE ANTENNA People still use beepers?
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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07-26-2006 22:55
From: cinda Hoodoo Often we see the Lindens say that if caught doing things that will disrupt a sim, bring it down, harm the grid, etc etc etc, they will disclose your information to the authorities. How can they do this on "unverified, or no information" accounts? Just wondering if this is a hollow threat to those accounts..and if so, why o why would the Lindens shoot themselves in the foot this way ??  They say they can identify and ban people by their computer info. Most websites you go to are able to pick up a sort of serial number from your computer and "know" you each time you go back.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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Join date: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 562
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07-26-2006 23:09
From: Avil Creeggan A gun I aided in scripting got it's resale rights purchased by Armory Overstock; He got 3000 Linden, I got a few hundred of that.
You're lucky you got anything.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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Join date: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 562
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07-26-2006 23:13
From: Daaneth Kivioq Well, My experience with the unverified has been actually largely positive. I've met and tried to help out some nice folx (including spending half an hour with one noob helping him get his graphics and network settings tweaked to the point where he was getting decent performance). I have made a few friends. And, best of all, my lady and I have adopted two lovely daughters. And I have been griefed twice. The Griefers were AR'ed and contained, and dealt with by the Lindens. I am not going to blanket ban or avoid unverifieds - but - I do understand the motivations of those who do, especially the owners of adult oriented businesses. In fact I think those folk have no choice in this matter if they are going to be responsible business owners. I hope we will soon have better tools to shut down the Griefers, and then be able to more fully welcome the new folk to their Second Lives. Most of the newbs are a hel of a lot nicer than the older folk who seem to think it's everyone else's job to support hem by buying thier dam*ed L's on Lindex
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Dmitri Polonsky
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 562
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07-26-2006 23:15
From: Cindy Claveau . That said, my personal experience with griefers (which is pretty concentrated since 6/6) is that a very significant percentage of them are freebie unverifieds. Not all of 'em by any means, but enough to create a cause for concern. Care to venturee a guess as to how many of them have older verified accounts and got unverified ones as alts so they can grief others? Bet it's a prety high percentage.
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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07-26-2006 23:17
From: Dmitri Polonsky From: someone Originally Posted by Avil Creeggan A gun I aided in scripting got it's resale rights purchased by Armory Overstock; He got 3000 Linden, I got a few hundred of that. You're lucky you got anything. With Dmitri on this. I won't name the person who runs that place but you and your friend got hosed. If you want to make and sell things, make them and sell them yourself, you'll do better business.
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Aleksie Solvang
nani?
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
Posts: 113
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07-27-2006 08:01
As far as the 'foobies' the only experiences I've had with them have been bad ones.. ie: people coming in with the sole purpose to be griefers..
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Maklin Deckard
Disillusioned
Join date: 9 Apr 2005
Posts: 459
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07-27-2006 08:21
From: Flarias Laperriere So poor people are not allowed to draw-in breath?
Fuck you assholes. Poor people? Lessee....to play SL you have to have.... A computer with specs to play SL - Check. A broadband connection - Check. A place to set it up and plug it in - Check. Hrm, doesn't sound poor to me. However it does sound like lazy arrogance of the 'Why should I be bothered to exert myself to be verified? What?!?! How DARE other players ban unverifieds!' style. Takes 30 mins and a low initial deposit to get a checking account...and as others have pointed out, all but the most backward one-branch mom-n-pop local banks have check cards. The only persons *I* see here being A**holes are of the unverified variety demanding the rest of us tolerate griefers just so they don't have to lift a finger to become verified. And that ain't happening, kiddo. I joined when you got a 7-day trial (or was it 14, so long ago I forget) and then you paid the one-time fee / went premium / or you left...you clicked a mouse and entered a couple lines of text and got an insta-account. Time to step up to the plate if you want to be treated like a verified. Though with the foul mouth and attitude, I sincerely doubt you will.
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Maklin Deckard
Disillusioned
Join date: 9 Apr 2005
Posts: 459
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07-27-2006 08:26
From: Allana Dion People still use beepers? Used to work for a company that did pager and cell-phone refurb and resale. A lot of people in certain industries still use pagers. We sold a lot of the rugged ones to fire departments, doctors (apparently they do not interfere with equipment like cell phone can), and construction people (a pager will take a drop or a hit that will ruin your cell phone in an instant and keep right on going). We also exported a lot of them (and old cell phones) to South America. Yeah, nearly dead market, but there are a few specialized users out there. Oh yeah, I forgot the people too cheap to pay for the cell-phone accounts. 
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stpaulsub Clio
Fear the Bubblegum Gurl!
Join date: 2 Sep 2004
Posts: 607
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07-27-2006 09:44
From: Avil Creeggan Search "Alliance Navy and Garage", it should be around Tethys; I haven't seen any griefing at all, and if I do, I'm dropping in a instant. I do, however, see very clever scripting, very interesting designs, a very welcoming bunch, and a healthy hate for every group of griefers and idiots I've encountered in the sandboxes. They have a fairly good record as well; They had a flight demonstration at the 3rd Anniversary (with Torley Linden having a few pictures of it such as this), a very interesting article in the Second Life Herald, and a followup in the Herald a year later. I'm not fond of keeping much debt after family issues; I only have my debit card and the bank I chose and stayed with for some years is, frankly, quite idiotic with anything involving plastic. However, my loans are with them and the interest is good. I might consider applying for something like a American Express soon; Hopefully my credit is at the level where I can get something simple for affairs like this. well speaking as a neighbor of teh AN i could not dissagree more! they are rude, disrespectful,i have been threatened, and i have to go thru the land at least 2 times a week to return or delete trash from some careless AN member..i have had a ICBM sitting on our land as well as heaps of other crap! and their response?..well we cannot be held responsible for where our bullets go! most of their officers are already banned from our land and as a new peice of trash is found each person goes on the builds are well done and impressive in their own way but their insistance that everyone enjoy their roleplay is for the birds! Also, i find it interesting that considering that i have been told over and over again they are here for my protection and to make SL a better place...where were they as a group for RFL? or other fund raisers? i admit i was very dissapointed that LL allowed them to be set up at teh 3rd birthday bash giving credibility to what in my opinion is a griefer group
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stpaulsub Clio
Fear the Bubblegum Gurl!
Join date: 2 Sep 2004
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07-27-2006 09:48
From: Vengence Opus For all of those who say they can't afford it, can't get a credit card, too poor, so on and so forth...
It's called a debit card. It does nothing to your credit. It requires $5 to keep it open, and that five dollars will stay there, as you don't have to pay a dime to be verified. I'm sure they have them in all 50 states. Unsure about elsewhere....
Oh, before anyone says anything, I AM POOR! Not homeless poor, but definitely been on the brink a couple few times.
It has nothing to do with financial status, and everything to do with credibility and accountability. well i guess i am having a few problems with someone telling me vie a computer hook up ove rteh internet that they are to poor to have a checking account...?!?!?! 
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From: someone David Valentino: I think I just like to play with the balls
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stpaulsub Clio
Fear the Bubblegum Gurl!
Join date: 2 Sep 2004
Posts: 607
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07-27-2006 09:50
From: Fmeh Tagore Banning newbies just for being newbies is not a good way to show off SL features to newbies. Most people try SL for free before giving out their credit card numbers--I know I certainly used SL for a day before giving them my credit card number. I'm glad I didn't do too much exploring my first day to the places that ban unverified accounts, or I would never have given the Lindens my credit card number and would have stopped playing SL altogether.
Maybe the Lindens should disable free accounts. ok how bout i ban you for running around shooting people with a bow?
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