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Good sellers dont keep seacrets away from buyers.

Silje Russell
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03-29-2006 21:55
This is a story about a happy couple that found out they wanted a child.
So they searched for a pregency program.
Found out that a misses [edited] looked like a good place to go.
Well when they got there she told them about the deluxe packet and the basic packet.
That the deluxe packet contained everything needed for a price of 4500L.
So this happy couple smiled and paid her the 4500L and *then* were told that to get full packet they needed to buy more.
Something that gave more feelings (emotes for the baby(baby kicks, baby moves etc)) from the person going through the pregnancy.
Like that should be in Deluxe packet they had thought
Well what?s the difference from basic and deluxe then they started to wonder. Basically nothing is different.
So the happy couple asked for the money back they just paid this person from [edited].
But she refused to give refund though she has at that point rendered no services at all, no scripts no shapes nothing.
This was 5 minutes after payment and she was still there with them Even though she was pulling the equivalent of a bait and switch.
You do not tell someone you are getting the full package then after they pay you say ?oh? but to really get the full package you must buy this 2k attachment to go with it.
Is this what we call good service? I believe this is what we call a bait and switch shyster.
Well I want warn others from [edited] and her deluxe packet because it?s only a 1\2 deluxe packet... its does not contain everything for the full experience.
There are quite a few others out there that give the same things. cost bit more but give full packet.
With Animations over rider and all the things needed without pulling a bait and switch after you pay them.
So when time comes to become a parent use some time before you decide. This person completely ruined what was to be a happy time for the couple as they can now not even afford to go elsewhere since they paid her in good faith and got nothing in return.
I do not recommend [edited] as service provider.
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nimrod Yaffle
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03-29-2006 21:59
This won't end well.


*ducks* Ok ok, I'm sorry, but someone had to say it!
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Glory Takashi
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03-29-2006 22:05
From: nimrod Yaffle
This won't end well.


*ducks* Ok ok, I'm sorry, but someone had to say it!

Sweets this already isn't ending well I was looking forward to this silly as it may seem.
Persephone Kirkorian
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03-29-2006 22:09
It's like deja vu all over again...
Zepp Zaftig
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03-29-2006 22:15
They wanted a prim baby for ageplay. OMG childmolesters. Quick, someone call the FBI.
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Memir Quinn
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03-29-2006 22:19
From: Zepp Zaftig
They wanted a prim baby for ageplay. OMG childmolesters. Quick, someone call the FBI.


Sad thing? Someone probably already has. :P What is with the naming of names thing anyway? There is actually some folk around still that've been here a while and are still confused about that? O.o
Elspeth Withnail
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03-29-2006 22:19
The TOS is vaguer on the subject than I'd previously thought, but a good rule of thumb is: If you're involved in a dispute of some sort, and name names on the forums, your post is going to be edited to remove the names, and possibly the thread will be locked. Basically, if you're making a claim that in the real world could potentially be libellous, the mods will be unhappy.
That's why this won't end well.
Cid Jacobs
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03-29-2006 22:21
Please take a few minutes and read the SL Forum Guidelines .

Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
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Glory Takashi
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03-29-2006 22:22
If you feel the need to flame then please ignore this thread, your opinions are not needed or wanted. Ripping someone off for anything silly or not in game or not is wrong. I wish to roleplay motherhood that is my buisness you go have sex with your virtual whores ok?

Good point El but without names how can you make people aware. You can not settle disputes in game if the other party refuses to talk and mutes you.

All I am asking for is a refund for no services rendered and it was refused.
prak Curie
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03-29-2006 22:28
Is it that there have be an abnormally large number of complaints about the prim baby business or is it just that they stand out more because I find it so strange?
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Enabran Templar
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03-29-2006 22:28
From: Glory Takashi
Good point El but without names how can you make people aware.


Nobody's going to be aware of anything when the moderators edit the out the names and lock this thread.
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Charisma Carroll
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03-29-2006 22:29
people should be a good bussiness person and if your not happy and willing to return the product opr havent received it then you should get your money back , think about if you buy a house and it is never built for you and you spent a fortune on it would you not want your money back and would you not be angry if they refused to return your money??? same thing
Mulch Ennui
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03-29-2006 22:29
i prefer the word secrets to be spelled seacrets, it is much more elegant a spelling

you should make a poll about changing the spelling

and also, if LL is so worried about people defaming other people, they need to give equal attention if one resident steals from another
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prak Curie
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03-29-2006 22:30
From: Glory Takashi
Good point El but without names how can you make people aware. You can not settle disputes in game if the other party refuses to talk and mutes you.

The forums are not for making other people aware of problems with specific people or settling disputes.
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Charisma Carroll
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03-29-2006 22:31
the forums are for people to speak their mind, thats what i see in here hmmmmmmmmm
Mulch Ennui
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03-29-2006 22:35
From: prak Curie
The forums are not for making other people aware of problems with specific people or settling disputes.


this is the "community" section

if someone in the community is stealing from other members of the community, then it is the obligation of the communtiy to police itself and warn other users, despite LLs opinion.
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Cid Jacobs
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03-29-2006 22:35
From: Charisma Carroll
the forums are for people to speak their mind, thats what i see in here hmmmmmmmmm

General is for your ideas and observations about SL, you can make a poll about forum policy, or you could make a post about your ideas on how to allow in world contracts. Anything like that. But it is still against forum guidelines to "name names". We all may not agree with this policy, but it is the policy.
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prak Curie
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03-29-2006 22:36
From: Charisma Carroll
the forums are for people to speak their mind, thats what i see in here

What you see here is a proscribed speaking of one's mind.
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vivi Odets
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03-29-2006 22:36
From: Persephone Kirkorian
It's like deja vu all over again...


ditto
Charisma Carroll
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03-29-2006 22:39
well i see an observation about a place that ripped someone off in SL so i guess it belongs here, put yourself in her shoes for a sec and think about how mad you would be , it dont matter what steps she is taking to get her anger out what the point is that some people in here dont care about others feelings and those people should be pointed out im thinking about doing the same thing and am glad that place was pointed out to me
prak Curie
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03-29-2006 22:40
From: Mulch Ennui
if someone in the community is stealing from other members of the community, then it is the obligation of the communtiy to police itself and warn other users, despite LLs opinion.

The TOS and Linden precedent could not be clearer on the subject of the community using the forums in this manner. If the community is obligated to police itself then it is obligated to find some other manner in which to do this.
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Charisma Carroll
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03-29-2006 22:41
cant help it if you are her friend or family and dont like what is posted but i know now i wont be shopping at that place and ALOT of my friends wont be either thanks to that post
Glory Takashi
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03-29-2006 22:43
From: Mulch Ennui
i prefer the word secrets to be spelled seacrets, it is much more elegant a spelling

you should make a poll about changing the spelling

and also, if LL is so worried about people defaming other people, they need to give equal attention if one resident steals from another



NM I decided not to have any response here at all I thought it was to inflammitory
Hugsy Penguin
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03-29-2006 22:44
From: Cid Jacobs
Please take a few minutes and read the SL Forum Guidelines .

Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.


Emphasis mine.

I don't see any names named in the posts title. ;)

(yes, I'm aware that the policy has been enforced no matter where the name was named, but the written policy only mentions the title, not message body)

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prak Curie
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03-29-2006 22:45
From: Charisma Carroll
put yourself in her shoes for a sec and think about how mad you would be , it dont matter what steps she is taking to get her anger out

Anger does not excuse poor behavior. If it was not for the restrictions on the forums they would have long ago become little more than a continual flame war. That would help no one.
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