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SLX Hacked?

Introvert Petunia
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03-15-2006 05:45
The ATM at SLX headquarters is not responsive, as was just confirmed by me and another player.
Lasivian Leandros
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03-15-2006 05:47
From: nimrod Yaffle
Has anyone gotten inworld to try to withdraw the amount they have?
Edit: They should have wrote "GOMed By Blade."


They're dead Jim!

In-world terminals are not responding.
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03-15-2006 05:50
Set phasers for "kick ass".
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nimrod Yaffle
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03-15-2006 05:52
Oh boy, this is getting good... Er, well, bad. Luckly I only had about 150 in it.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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03-15-2006 06:00
This really sucks. Good luck to Apotheus and the entire SLExchange team; I was running PHPBB on a non-SL related site that got pwned by a script kiddie and it was no fun at all.

Good luck getting things back in order.

Regards,

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Adriana Caligari
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03-15-2006 06:01
From: Lasivian Leandros
Glad I pulled totally out of slexchange and went to slboutique. SL Exchange has big problems with both software and management, they don't care much about their users.



God, dont you just hate it when someone kicks someone else when they are down just because they didn't get their way ?

Reminds me of the school yard actually..

Good luck to the SLX team..
Csven Concord
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03-15-2006 06:26
Sorry to hear, but I expect this sort of thing will become increasingly common.
Introvert Petunia
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03-15-2006 06:34
From: someone
Sorry to hear, but I expect this sort of thing will become increasingly common.
Hmmm, there's a lot of e-commerce out there on teh intarnet but hacks have become increasingly less common over the last decade. :confused:

Did you mean this will become more common in the SL web vendor space because few take it seriously as it remains a nickle and dime proposition? I might agree with that.
Kalley Koala
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03-15-2006 06:47
This is just sad and pathetic!!!! I'd love to find out who hacked the site and slap them with a stinky fish!

I mean, common... it's a GAME... if you have the talent to hack a site... then use your talent to make something worth a darn and sell it on that site instead and make some money for yourself!


For those of you dissing SL Exchange, that's fine, it's your opinion. I use both SL Exchange and SL Boutique. I like them both for different reason. But, even if you hate SL Exchange, you have to feel for them right now and you have to think that this attack was just pathetic.
Enabran Templar
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03-15-2006 06:53
Unreliable? I keep hearing noises to that effect. Untrustworthy? Hard to say. I haven't had anything unpleasant go down, personally, on SLX.

Still, I betcha that the case will be made (internally) to GOM online shopping as the next big push in lubricating the economy by using examples like this one here.

And, y'know, if it works out as well as Lindex did, I might not have a problem with that.
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Merwan Marker
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03-15-2006 07:05
From: Enabran Templar
Unreliable?
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Still, I betcha that the case will be made (internally) to GOM online shopping as the next big push in lubricating the economy by using examples like this one here.
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Not sure what you mean - please explain...
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Kalley Koala
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03-15-2006 07:11
From: Enabran Templar


Still, I betcha that the case will be made (internally) to GOM online shopping as the next big push in lubricating the economy by using examples like this one here.

And, y'know, if it works out as well as Lindex did, I might not have a problem with that.



Do you mean a shopping site run by linden?
CrystalShard Foo
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03-15-2006 08:12
Btw, thats not "hacking" - thats "cracking".

(Someone had to say it)
Enabran Templar
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03-15-2006 08:17
From: Merwan Marker
Not sure what you mean - please explain...


HAY GUYS LET'S MAKE WEB-BASED TRANSACTIONS EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO SET UP! THE CURRENT CROP IS GETTING HAXXED AND HAS DOWNTIME ISSUES. WE GOTS TO CLEAN THIS UP YO.

From: Kalley Koala
Do you mean a shopping site run by linden?


I mean Linden-facilitated mechanisms for web-based transactions. I'm sure they'd host a marketplace along with it, but I think the goal ought to be a standardized interface for exchanging currency for goodies, via the web, that third parties could plug into their own sites, also.
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Merwan Marker
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03-15-2006 08:21
From: Enabran Templar


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I mean Linden-facilitated mechanisms for web-based transactions. I'm sure they'd host a marketplace along with it, but I think the goal ought to be a standardized interface for exchanging currency for goodies, via the web, that third parties could plug into their own sites, also.



Yes - over the years there has been discussion with Phillip and others at LL re: doing this very thing - I was involved directly with such.

And seems what has been done is LL got in to the currency-coversion business - and no LL facilited mechanism to standardize web-based commerce.

Still a mystery.



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Chrischun Fassbinder
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03-15-2006 08:29
From: CrystalShard Foo
Btw, thats not "hacking" - thats "cracking".

(Someone had to say it)
I was expecting such a correction. Actually thought of using cracked in the subject but forgot since I was listening to Off The Hook while soldering a 6.5536Mhz crystal into a radio shack phone dialer and eating some Captain Crunch Cereal. Then this computer kept calling in at 1200bps wanting to play a game.

Yeah I know, it's stupid. Though I bet more black people who have gone to see that movie named Hackers if it was called Crackers.
Keiki Lemieux
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03-15-2006 09:13
It's back up.
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Exchange Street
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03-15-2006 09:16
SL Exchange is back up. Fortunately it was just a script kiddie and I managed to shut things down while he was in the process of tagging various areas of the site. The exploit that was used was an old one that the attacker managed to slip by our security system using a form of encoding in the URL that I haven't seen before.

Be assured that there was NO data loss whatsoever. No one lost money, and any deposits that were made at terminals during our downtime will catch up over the next couple of hours.

The extended downtime and lack of an informational message were due to extremely bad timing with my full-time job which takes precedence, and I took the time to do a full audit of everything the attacker did to report to the appropriate authorities.

Chrischun, thank you very much for the call. I didn't answer, but I did hear the phone ring and your call allowed me to stop things while they were in process. You saved the day!
Shirley Meiji
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03-15-2006 09:23
From: Exchange Street

Chrischun, thank you very much for the call. I didn't answer, but I did hear the phone ring and your call allowed me to stop things while they were in process. You saved the day!


Thank you Chrischun!
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03-15-2006 09:23
From: Introvert Petunia
Did you mean this will become more common in the SL web vendor space because few take it seriously as it remains a nickle and dime proposition? I might agree with that.


Virtual goods vendors. Partly bc few take it seriously. Partly bc some will take it very seriously now that $$$ are starting to permeate the mainstream.
Dianne Mechanique
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03-15-2006 09:35
From: Keiki Lemieux
I hope they get this cleared up soon.

It's interesting though when threads pop up about slexchange that invariably we get slboutique fanboi posts. slboutique seems like a well run site, but something about it just doesn't connect with consumers like slexchange does. I do 20 times the business at slexchange that I do at slboutique. Unless slexchange really implodes, I don't see people giving up much higher sales and lowers comissions to move to another site.
I disagree.

The "anti-SL Exchange" stuff exists for a reason, they have a poor history and have screwed some people around in the past.

I also disagree abbout "connecting with customers" I can never find anything on SL Exchange, I find their interface confusing and clunky at best. SL Boutique has some problems with poor categorisation but at least it's a clean no nonsense interface that you can get the hang of in a second or two.

I would bet SL Exchange does better just cause its a better name with an easier to remember URL, or perhaps more aggressive marketing. As a product it's clearly second rate.
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Dianne Mechanique
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03-15-2006 09:37
From: Keiki Lemieux
I hope they get this cleared up soon.

It's interesting though when threads pop up about slexchange that invariably we get slboutique fanboi posts. slboutique seems like a well run site, but something about it just doesn't connect with consumers like slexchange does. I do 20 times the business at slexchange that I do at slboutique. Unless slexchange really implodes, I don't see people giving up much higher sales and lowers comissions to move to another site.
I disagree.

The "anti-SL Exchange" stuff exists for a reason, they have a poor history and have screwed some people around in the past.

I also disagree abbout "connecting with customers" I can never find anything on SL Exchange, I find their interface confusing and clunky at best. SL Boutique has some problems with poor categorisation but at least it's a clean no nonsense interface that you can get the hang of in a second or two.

I would bet SL Exchange does better just cause its a better name with an easier to remember URL, or perhaps more aggressive marketing. As a product it's clearly second rate.

Note the earlier comment by a seller about "not wanting the hassle of setting up her vendors again." SL Botuiques vendor is a one click deal and as simple and sensible as teh site itself.
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Keiki Lemieux
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03-15-2006 09:41
I use both sites, and I don't see why people should feel like they have to make a choice. Use them both. I've never had a problem with either. I prefer the feature set I get with slexchange (and the smaller commission), but slboutique seems like a good site too. When I say slexchange connects with customers better it's only based on my limited experience that I sell far more at slexchange than slboutique.
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03-15-2006 09:48
From: Dianne Mechanique
I disagree.

The "anti-SL Exchange" stuff exists for a reason, they have a poor history and have screwed some people around in the past.

I also disagree abbout "connecting with customers" I can never find anything on SL Exchange, I find their interface confusing and clunky at best. SL Boutique has some problems with poor categorisation but at least it's a clean no nonsense interface that you can get the hang of in a second or two.

I would bet SL Exchange does better just cause its a better name with an easier to remember URL, or perhaps more aggressive marketing. As a product it's clearly second rate.


I'm not suprised that you disagree, to be honest. However, talking frankly neither site is organised particularly well in view of what it's trying to achieve. slexchange.com has more functions but the overall organisation is messy, slboutique.com may look simple but is also simple in it's feature set. Neither comes close to the way an e-commerce site should be presented, in terms of usability or functionality. I've been authoring e-commerce systems for 7 years now, and they both miss the mark by a long shot.

That's not to say that neither are welcome, because they are, but neither really has been what it could and should have been. slexchange.com does have more traffic than slboutique.com and I suspect part of that is because it was first to market and slboutique.com really doesn't offer anything exceptional to challenge that.

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Note the earlier comment by a seller about "not wanting the hassle of setting up her vendors again." SL Botuiques vendor is a one click deal and as simple and sensible as teh site itself.


Personally i didn't understand that comment. It's a matter of taking it into your inventory to remove your items from the site and putting it back out to get them re-listed. So, in fact, it's actually simpler than slboutique.com's as you don't even have to click :p

As for the poor history of slexchange.com, I was a very vocal supporter of the percieved injured party in that debacle at first but gradually realised that it wasn't quite as clear cut as it was being made out and that the injured party was really just playing to the crowd. As he still does, incidentally. It's something he does not appear to be able to let go of and needs to give the knife a further twist at every opportunity. So, you live and learn.
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03-15-2006 10:22
Just checked and they are back up. All looks well.
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