Sense does the sentence not make.
It's funnier when you read the post that he was replying to.
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Tren Neva
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06-28-2006 19:33
Sense does the sentence not make. It's funnier when you read the post that he was replying to. |
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Bizzy Weeks
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06-28-2006 19:39
> - Sexual content depicting actual minors (Real Video, Real Pictures, and now even > drawings/cartoons depicting underage persons) Ok, how much more of a depiction of pornography does it have to be than SL?? If you are in an underage av and having sex, you are guilty of a crime just as if you were distributing hardcore child pornography (i personally do not agree that cartoons are the same as rl photos, but until that part of law is struck down...) Phil Hanner aka Kord Clifton aka Esa Replacement I would love for you to tell a midget they can't have sex cause they look like children. There is no crime involved, they are smaller AVs, just like its not beastility because furries are wearing 'suits'. |
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Usagi Musashi
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06-28-2006 20:07
I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality of those that think that people who do age play sex are pedophiles, even if there are no real children involved. But people who have furry sex aren't commiting acts of bestiality. SL is full of creepy and "morally" wrong kinks, but the thing is that it's all pretend. I would rather have Gors, Furries, Age Players, and what not to have their itch scratched in SL rather then in real life. These people aren't really having sex with their personal slaves, or sex with animals, or even sex with children. It's all fake, thus doing no harm to you. You may think it's morally wrong, but most of the alternatives would be ALOT worse. Have you been to one of the popular listing sex clubs these days/ OMG talk about you scary sick and totally tastless clubs around SL these days. Its never stops me from thinking why people think sl sex is so great to start with? Sex with dogs, under 18 year old avies, and otehr tastless and sick minded role play leads many to think sl is only a dirty sicking and totally safe way to release their tastless taboos........AGE ROLE PLAY.............maybe sooner of later THE FBI will be comign to you and finding out you are a pedophile and you are now in deep sh`t with the law...........I don`t now about you but thisis not safe sex as some people lead you to believe...... ANd yes i seen underage avies having sex on sl among other tasteless otehr acts of sick role play. |
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Tren Neva
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06-28-2006 20:12
Have you been to one of the popular listing sex clubs these days/ OMG talk about you scary sick and totally tastless clubs around SL these days. Its never stops me from thinking why people think sl sex is so great to start with? Sex with dogs, under 18 year old avies, and otehr tastless and sick minded role play leads many to think sl is only a dirty sicking and totally safe way to release their tastless taboos........AGE ROLE PLAY.............maybe sooner of later THE FBI will be comign to you and finding out you are a pedophile and you are now in deep sh`t with the law...........I don`t now about you but thisis not safe sex as some people lead you to believe...... ANd yes i seen underage avies having sex on sl among other tasteless otehr acts of sick role play. Oh, I think they're horrible as well. But I would much rather them do it in SL then in RL. People have done a "farm sex" event in real life, in a sense. That didn't fly too well. |
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Usagi Musashi
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06-28-2006 20:28
Oh, I think they're horrible as well. But I would much rather them do it in SL then in RL. People have done a "farm sex" event in real life, in a sense. That didn't fly too well. People always thinks its ok to do on sl..........it wil not harm them in their rl. But really! If your sick minded in rl its more then likey that you goign to bring it to sl as well. one person i know this seesm to be the fact. |
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Michael Seraph
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06-28-2006 21:03
I closed my gay sex club in SL for two reasons that kind of intermingle. The first was the whole age sex play issue. The club's group voted and banned it. I added a requirement that all avies who visited the club be adult in appearance, but that didn't keep it from happening. The second reason was the complete lack of age verification in new accounts. So I felt it was time to close shop. I didn't like the thought that the age sex play that I couldn't seem to stop would turn into real cybersex with minors. I think that consenting adults should be free to do anything they want that scrolls their nerds, but that doesn't mean anywhere they want. And I don't want to enable pedophiles in their online hunt.
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Usagi Musashi
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06-28-2006 21:11
Are we ever going to get any real answers to problems frm llabs?
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Darkfoxx Bunyip
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06-28-2006 22:37
I'll throw in my two bits....
Ageplay as I understand it from a few ageplaying firends, is NOT about having sex with children, at least not to themselves. It's about the possibility of experiencing the 'first time' over and over again. Now I know that this of course doesn't count for eveeryone, but people like throwing similar looking things on one big pile without looking deeper to see if those things actually belong on that pile at all. Whatever two (or more) concenting adults do in private or in an area where no-one else minds, it's their buisness and no-one as the RIGHT to judge them on that or even cry out for removal of the people concerned. I have seen lots of things on SL that I really REALLY didn't want to see or experience, like walking into a club with RL pics scanned from Playboy... I'm not causing a fuss or going "Hey you people are SICK" cause the only thing it is is a difference in tastes and preferences. To each their own... and BTW, 'normal' is relative. If 75 % of the world for instance would be gay, straight people would be kicked to death in the streets for 'not being normal'. The 'net is full of sick and twisted people, EVERYONE has a certain something that would make others go 'FREAK' that they're hiding. Kick all 'weirdo's' out, and alll that would be left on the 'net would be politics. Doesn't sound like a Utopia to me... |
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Usagi Musashi
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06-28-2006 22:43
The 'net is full of sick and twisted people, EVERYONE has a certain something that would make others go 'FREAK' that they're hiding. Kick all 'weirdo's' out, and alll that would be left on the 'net would be politics. Doesn't sound like a Utopia to me... Oh so you been to thatsex club i talked about......... ![]() |
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Subversive Vavoom
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06-28-2006 23:21
LOL you dont know what a furry is do you ? LOL and Yes Ageplay sex is not legal and it is wrong. look it up ![]() Hmmmm, what rule book are you playing by? I distinctly remember having sent you mine to abide by, and if you'll refer to page 22, paragraph 3..... ps)please don't think i ageplay anymore on SL... it's pointless, boring, and attracts too many wankers. |
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Deviant Edge
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06-28-2006 23:21
Me I have age played, and I run an archive of erotic fiction from every desire and need you can think of for the last 9 years.
In reality i'd hang up pedophiles by there painful parts, sterilise them, i'd jail or turn into uniques every rapist of man woman child and or animal. I have a very clear definition of reality and lines. In a first person shooter, I can kill destroy, head shot, maim.. Would I do this in real life no. In GTA I kick people out of there cars get in the car then run over them. Would I do this in real life ? no. In roleplay I have played evil killers, rapists, I run my own adult online game (a txt based mud) and as the god pyros I have in the past slept with everything and anyone daughters, sisters, the odd cat (following the mythology of zsues in a way)Would I do any of it in real life ? no. In a roleplay world in a roleplay game I can suspend my ethics my beliefs and do all the what ifs i'd never touch in real life. I can experience what its like and then i can very healthily go back to my life. And yes I love roleplaying evil people because it can be fun to explore. I put no limits on my roleplay and would go to court to fight for that right. In reality I help my neighbours out, I go my mums anytime she picks up the phone to help her in any way, I am a full time carer of my wife, I love animals. In real life i'd never look at an under aged person sexually or want to kill anyone except in defence of my wife and family. fine you don't like some roleplay but it is all roleplay, is it really any worse furries sex or age play or BDSM than roleplaying a killer, because it seems fine to blow up the world , to take up a gun and gun down the bad guys but wow you show a womans beautiful breasts in public and its time to call in the morality police? Sexuality in all its forms is unique like all of us, and I would never condone taking most of what i see in roleplay to reality. Drawing lines is a very dangerous path to follow how far is too far? Two consenting adults in private exploring ageplay ? Harry potter books because some say they have witchcraft in them ? The name of the second book of lord of the rings because it reminds people of the september 11th bombing (two towers) When you start drawing lines, what you think is fine others will not Some would outlaw kissing in public some would say gays should be jailed I honestly believe and have a huge community who believe it too that the only rule in fiction /fantasy should be that it isn't real. As sam rami once said when a female reporter called him sick for depicting sex between a tree and a woman in evil dead 1, come back to me when you have the first case in real life of a tree and woman having sex. to me it goes one step further If we as adults, with a clearly defined sense of right and wrong, reality and fantasy then aslong as it is fantasy, aslong as no real people were violated or hurt, then anything goes. If your ethics and morals cross over into roleplay and fantasy, I feel sorry for you going to see most of the films out these days, most contain atleast some event we wouldn't want to happen or enjoy in real life, but most of us suspend our beliefs its what makes a good story when the author can make us forget its just a book. |
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Tren Neva
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06-29-2006 00:03
Points This is what I wish people would understand. The concept of consentual roleplay, specially in a medium like SL doesn't hurt anyone. Morals don't play any factor in roleplay, or at least not as big of a factor as it is in real life. Roleplaying has always annoyed me, but the thing is, it harms no one. |
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Saur Holt
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06-29-2006 06:50
I am adding this , a lot of you think furry is having sexy with animals. it is not .(look it up)
having sex with animals is called beastly, big diff. I RPG furry and I Have never want to have sex with a animal. as for age play I am cool with that, as for ageplay sex, i am not, it is wrong and can lead to someone really hurting a child. it has happen in other chats ,and can happen here . You can say all you want your not hurting any real kids, some people fined out they like it and try it IRW, it has Happen in other chats. as for furry i am fighting a losing battle , but at list if some weird furry go's out and sleep with a animal, it is not hurting anyone. |
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Lupus Delacroix
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06-29-2006 08:41
I really don't want to have this furry debate in the forums with some that uses LOL as a sentence starter, so I'll just throw in some quick critical thinking questions. 1) If two furries have sex, wouldn't that equal one human and one animal having sex? 2) Is the concept of an animal-human being the idea of man's sexual lust for animals? What about when you put a dog penis on that animal-human? 3) YOU ARE FUCKING AN ANIMAL YOU SICKO OLOL If you want, you can message me in game and debate it with me all you want, mainly because this thread isn't the place for it. I warn you though, I've made furries cry. Your self mastabatory urge to do some chest pounding really doesn't intimidate anyone here... you know that right? 1) Yes but technically if you engage in cyber, your fucking your computer. Technophile much? 2) Could be, I don't particularly engage in this bit of furry myself. There are about a dozen and one reasons to do it, all the way from "It just looks more normal to have a furry dick ona furry body" all the way to "I want to fuck a dog". If I had to take a guess at why most furries do what they do its a roleplay thing, escapism at its finest. But more importantly, why and wherefor each person does what they do ISN'T any of my god damned business. If some guy wants to wear a penis on his forhead and headbutt his girlfriends crotch, its up to him. As to why I have a furry av (I'm not furry all the time, I rotate AV's, I've got a really good looking human av who mostly wears club clothes, a really good looking furry av who is dressed as a Samurai, some robot av's two of Daryth's dragon av's so on and so forth) its just because I think they look cute, they are fun to play around in, and honestly I love the furry comunity (not the insular ones) they add flavor to the world of dull clubrats wearing bling. 3) No actually if I chose to fuck as a fur, I'd still be fuckin the person on the other end of the connection at best, or just interacting with my computer at worse. Last time I checked I don't have a doggie dick irl. As a side note you really seem to have some hangups with a furry critter making with the unf unf unf, did you get molested by your high school mascot or something? As far as messaging you in world, no thanks, SL is for fun, I don't associate with your ilk there, but I'll gladly fight on the forums as I'm not living my second life at the moment. |
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Tren Neva
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06-29-2006 08:55
Your self mastabatory urge to do some chest pounding really doesn't intimidate anyone here... you know that right? 1) Yes but technically if you engage in cyber, your fucking your computer. Technophile much? 2) Could be, I don't particularly engage in this bit of furry myself. There are about a dozen and one reasons to do it, all the way from "It just looks more normal to have a furry dick ona furry body" all the way to "I want to fuck a dog". If I had to take a guess at why most furries do what they do its a roleplay thing, escapism at its finest. But more importantly, why and wherefor each person does what they do ISN'T any of my god damned business. If some guy wants to wear a penis on his forhead and headbutt his girlfriends crotch, its up to him. As to why I have a furry av (I'm not furry all the time, I rotate AV's, I've got a really good looking human av who mostly wears club clothes, a really good looking furry av who is dressed as a Samurai, some robot av's two of Daryth's dragon av's so on and so forth) its just because I think they look cute, they are fun to play around in, and honestly I love the furry comunity (not the insular ones) they add flavor to the world of dull clubrats wearing bling. 3) No actually if I chose to fuck as a fur, I'd still be fuckin the person on the other end of the connection at best, or just interacting with my computer at worse. Last time I checked I don't have a doggie dick irl. As a side note you really seem to have some hangups with a furry critter making with the unf unf unf, did you get molested by your high school mascot or something? As far as messaging you in world, no thanks, SL is for fun, I don't associate with your ilk there, but I'll gladly fight on the forums as I'm not living my second life at the moment. First off, what I said was a joke, which I thought I made obvious with those "questions". Secondly, no, I was not raped by my school mascot {which was a viking by the way}. No, it started when furries took my childhood cartoons and drew them with penises. Porky Pig was just find the way he was without a huge murder erection, and My Little Pony was peachy without being raped by the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. But really, that's just the tip of it for me. If you really want to discuss it with me, then you can do so in SL. |
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Phedre Aquitaine
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06-29-2006 09:24
I am adding this , a lot of you think furry is having sexy with animals. it is not .(look it up) having sex with animals is called beastly, big diff. I RPG furry and I Have never want to have sex with a animal. as for age play I am cool with that, as for ageplay sex, i am not, it is wrong and can lead to someone really hurting a child. it has happen in other chats ,and can happen here . You can say all you want your not hurting any real kids, some people fined out they like it and try it IRW, it has Happen in other chats. as for furry i am fighting a losing battle , but at list if some weird furry go's out and sleep with a animal, it is not hurting anyone. Anecdotal evidence? "ZOMG some people I heard of in chats had sex with kids because they called their partner daddy, so anyone who does age play is going to be pedophiles"? Really? That's what you've got? Thank you for your input, Senator Santorum. _____________________
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Darkfoxx Bunyip
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06-29-2006 09:57
as for ageplay sex, i am not, it is wrong and can lead to someone really hurting a child. it has happen in other chats ,and can happen here . You can say all you want your not hurting any real kids, some people fined out they like it and try it IRW, it has Happen in other chats. Well in those cases, just as with the cases of people shooting up their school's cafateria with machine pistols after listening to Marylin Manson and playing GTA, the roleplaying in itself is not at fault, neither are the muscician or the makers of the game, but the people bringing that FICTION into reality. E.G., they were already insane *before* acting as if they were 'playing'with a kid or running over pedestrians in GTA. It's the simple knowledge of the4 difference between Real Life and a shared fantasy. it's all PRETEND... If you or anyone else isn't able to see the difference, please visit a shrink before hurting anyone. and let us sain people enjoy our little fantasies in a safe adult conscentual and free environment. |
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Lorelei Patel
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06-29-2006 10:05
I am adding this , a lot of you think furry is having sexy with animals. it is not .(look it up) having sex with animals is called beastly, big diff. I RPG furry and I Have never want to have sex with a animal. as for age play I am cool with that, as for ageplay sex, i am not, it is wrong and can lead to someone really hurting a child. it has happen in other chats ,and can happen here . You can say all you want your not hurting any real kids, some people fined out they like it and try it IRW, it has Happen in other chats. as for furry i am fighting a losing battle , but at list if some weird furry go's out and sleep with a animal, it is not hurting anyone. Soooo.... Person playing an animal pretending to have sex with an animal does not lead to bestiality. Person playing an adult pretending to have sex with a child does lead to pedophilia. I could just as easily say about furry, "as for yiffing, i am not (OK with that), it is wrong and can lead to someone really hurting an animal. it has happen in other chats ,and can happen here." And that would be consistant. Right? _____________________
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Jake Reitveld
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06-29-2006 11:47
anything done between consenting adults is their business only. thus age play is fine. If a minor is involved, then its obviously illegal.
but there is nothing morally wrong with age play sex between consenting adults. _____________________
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Wulf Duport
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06-29-2006 14:12
Soooo.... Person playing an animal pretending to have sex with an animal does not lead to bestiality. Well, I personally don't see much of a problem with fantasy being fantasy (though I personally find sexual Age Play to be incredibly distasteful, according to my personal standards), I might add that in my eyes, claiming a two-legged sentient furry creature is an animal is to say that the two-legged semi-hairy sentient creature is an animal; I.E., the human being a monkey. That's just how I see it, personally. I see fur, ears, muzzle, etc. to be more of "accessories" than the actual mindset and being of the creature. In a way, it's more like envisioning furries as humans with add-ons to make 'em "cute" and "fuzzy". I know that it's pretty much an argument for another thread, but I had to comment. To go back to the original post and topic... Once more, I reinforce my idea on fantasy being fantasy, and that just because someone has fantasies doesn't mean they will act out on them in reality. If so, murder and theft rates would be pretty high. In fact, I'm having a fantasy of robbing the local bank right now. Mmm... Or maybe the local bakery. Mm mm mm... toasty! But that doesn't mean that I don't view some fantasies to be utterly distasteful, nor would I ever desire to either share in them or view them. So you have a fantasy of killing your boss, ripping out his eyeballs, and eating them in your ice cream; I don't mind that. But I certainly don't want to SEE it, in a fake environment or not. |
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Lorelei Patel
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06-29-2006 15:02
So you have a fantasy of killing your boss, ripping out his eyeballs, and eating them in your ice cream; I don't mind that. But I certainly don't want to SEE it, in a fake environment or not. How did you know? ![]() _____________________
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Teddy Wishbringer
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06-29-2006 15:17
As with the previous half dozen threads on this matter that came before a few months back, I sense this one being locked soon as well.
It's always been a matter of a few narrowminded individuals imposing their preceived morality on others, even when it has no basis in fact. As a furry SL cub myself who's been in SL for quite a while, the whole idea of you accusing me or fellow cubs of turning into pedos is purely laughable at best. Who exactly are you accusing here, the cub or the 'adult avie'? What if it's two cubs yiffing? Are they both future pedos in your morality? I'm curious.. Anyways, ageplay and ageplay sex has been around for WAY longer than SL.. neither of which are illegal, nor immoral in my opinion. |
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Obic Malaprop
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06-29-2006 15:36
Are people's who disaprove of ageplay upset with those who play younger AVies? It seems most hangups seem to be with those who interact with the child imatators?
Also is a 18 y/o innaporpraite ageplay, 17, 15? 12? and how in the world do you determine someones AV is 17 and not yet legal. I've seen some 12 year olds in Real life who look 30, and 30 year olds who look 12. _____________________
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Ewan Took
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06-29-2006 16:14
Since this has been dug up again, what's the law on using a photo of a real child to make an avie for sexual purposes? I've seen the same thing done for adult avies. It sounds well dodgy to me. Damn I'm getting narrow minded in my old age!
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Saur Holt
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06-29-2006 16:31
Soooo.... Person playing an animal pretending to have sex with an animal does not lead to bestiality. Person playing an adult pretending to have sex with a child does lead to pedophilia. I could just as easily say about furry, "as for yiffing, i am not (OK with that), it is wrong and can lead to someone really hurting an animal. it has happen in other chats ,and can happen here." And that would be consistant. Right? i did not say that . i said furry is not beasty and it if did at list it would not be hurting a child. |