Do you provide products to ppls alts?

I have had several requests from individuals claiming to be the alt of "whoever" ask for a product that "whoever" purchased because they cannot log into that account or that account is disabled or they are getting stalked on that account. Nonetheless, I do not give it to them because I have no way of verifying who is behind the account.

Sometimes ppl will bring up some converstation that I had with the supposed main account...but that still doesn't prove anything because that person could have just told them what to say to get free stuff.

Have any of you ever had this happen? What do or would you do?
Discuss.

With the explosion of alts in the game?

No. Never...sorry.

New name, new purchase please.

I mean if we're going to get anything out of all this annoyance a doubling or tripling of the economy would at least be something of a trade off.

Ah... the age old question on everyones lips!

As a consumer, I often want to get away to an alt, i've often thought about deleting Willow and starting anew but bugger that, I have WAY too much inventory that I am not prepared to just walk away from, but I would never ask a designer to send me stuff I had already purchased as Willow to another alt, because I wouldn't want to put them into this situation that you are discussing here.

I think if I was a creator, I too would take the stance you ladies have! But I also see the flip side of the coin

Anyone can claim to be so-and-so's alt (especially if they saw them wearing something they want!). Now, if their main asked you to give what they purchased to their alt, that would be a nice thing to do, but I never had the nerve, heh. In addition, how do you know this "alt" isn't just a friend?

I guess if creators wanted to allow their customers to do this, they would have made their items transferable in the first place.

I wouldn't even consider asking. And were I a designer I'd say nay.

the only fix to the solution -- Transferable items - no copy - if they want two copies of an item they must by it.. there is no other way

Most of my items are transferable so if someone tells me they can't trade it, I don't believe it.
If they cant log in their main account either they've been banned or they just need to talk to LL and fix it. If they are being stalked, come on, how long does it take really to log in, go to a private spot, transfer everything you want while on busy so no one can talk to you and leave again?
As far as non transferable items I'm sorry, there is no way to verify so I would have to say no there too.

I suppose if it was an expensive item, then you could always log into their old avatar and delete the original before giving their new avatar the item. Although I'm sure Nanny Linden wouldn't approve.

I did that ONCE because the main asked and I was convinced that the alt and the main were the same person...But I'm not doing that again. I'm usually pretty lenient but I have to draw the line somewhere.

If i was to need my purchased items moved to a new account, i would repurchase them plain and simple... I've had people do this to me before. I usually request verification of some sort.

Lets say i wanted to by a mature outfit for a unverified alt (an outfit i already bought for Yiffy), but can't access the shop do to unverified restrictions. I would contact the creator of the outfit using THIS account and tell them i wish to buy it for my alt, and give them it's name, then i log in as the alt and talk to them proving it's me. Hopefully the creator isn't some jackass and will sell me the outfit. If they don't then i'l just steal it! (JK, i just wouldn't recomend them to my friends).

Well I tried to get a vendor in world to do somethng like that, but he said for the same reasons listed above he couldnt do it. but he would sell me the item at half-price, that was in ummm I think in February and still no dice, even contacted him a few time but no answer. No biggie I bought the item for the alt and went on my merry way. After I asked him and before he responded the lil light bulb lit up and I felt stupid but he was nice and I thought when he offered the half price deal that would rock.

As for what would I do not sure but I have given thought to this and have tried to figure a way for this to happen. But basically the best thing is to tell them cant happen because I cant prove the identity of the alt is yours and vice versa.

Agreed. I would never ask for an item for my alts that I couldn't give from my main account. I have *numerous* old skins and dozens and dozens of hair styles I never use any more that would have saved me thousands of lindens fixing up my alts but it never occured to me to ask... even though the skins all came from the same designer and I not only obviously wear her skins, but I also recommend her skins and her AO to anyone who inquires as to the best of either. The hair came from any number of designers and, while it really sucks to buy the same style I don't wear as Char again for one of the others, gee, its not the designers' fault I'm a) a compulsive buyer and b) decided to have an alt or two or six or whatever.

I've never talked to my favorite texture source (yeah, I still buy them even though I mostly make my own now) about how she'd feel about me transferring the textures to my alts... but then my alts don't build, they just hang out so its not been an issue. I suspect she'd be cool about it cause I can only build as one av at a time and only market as me, but they are lazy. lol.

My buildings are all sold mod/copy/no transfer and, short of a personal friend I *knew* was both people, I'd never give a copy to a supposed alt. If you're being stalked, well, get some friends to help 'guard' you while you transfer what you can, set the rest up to sell at a garage sale and recoup what you can before you shut down the main account. If you've been banned... well, um... gee, a bit of financial reinforcement to accompany the ban to encourage you to toe the line the next time around? Seems fair enough to me, but then I'm sort of on the lawful good side of the spectrum

Char

Here is how I see it. Just because you buy something doesn't intitle you to get a free copy for every alt you might make.

and to many scams would happen that way. New alt av buy the stuff again, if you don't want to have to rebuy the stuff then make sure its transferable before you buy it in the first place.

No way i would give free stuff just because someone claims to of bought on a alt av.

That would be like asking linden to give you a new private island for free, for your new alt because you bought one with your old av.

Not going to happen.

just my two and a half cents, on the matter.

I've only had this happen once, personally. Someone IMed me and informed me that her friend couldn't pick up her table! After a little back and forth I learned that her friend's main had been banned and that the alt had modify rights but couldn't pick up the table. I noted that they're 'modify' rights, not 'steal' rights. Then she wanted me to give her friend's alt a new game since she couldn't pick up the other one. She refused to give the name of her friend's main or alt when I asked, and refused to tell me why she had been banned. She called me a bag lady and starting tell me how rich she was and how should could buy 100 of my games. I was like 'Okay? So then buy your friend's alt a new game. Bye!'

In general, I'd have to say no. There are a few people that I know that I've given games to their alts because I had enough dealings with them to trust them. I like to believe most people are honest, but there's just no way to verify that an alt is really an alt. The only thing I can think of would be a way for the two accounts to grant permission to compare their hardware hashes. Not actually give you the hardware hash, but just be like 'Yes, these two avatars have the same hardware hash.' But it sounds like a pain to implement and not really worth LL's develop time right now.

I've done this in the past for several people. I am not do this anymore given the new registration system. And really customers shouldn't even ask IMO. Every account in SL should be treated as a different person.

As for transferable items: many items I sell can be remodified after being purchased (such as hair). So I set permissions as mod/copy/no transfer. This means the customer can modify several variations of the same hair style if they'd like, in all different copies. I've tried selling transfer/no copy hair in the past and all I've gotten was requests for no transfer/copy permissions.

As for the "being stalked" excuse. I've had a few of these. One person had aproached me and wanted a transferable version of a hair style for her alt. I needed some kind of proof between the two accounts before I actually sent her the product. Well, she didn't want to tell me so what does she do? Calls live help and gets a Linden involved....this was pretty rediculous and had gotten way out of hand so finally I just sent her the hair....common people. what does $L200 equal in RL money?? $0.62!

I've also gotten several requests to fix transfer/mod/no copy items, when the product hadn't even been purchased by them in the first place, but given to them by someone else.

This is part of the reason why I don't buy no transfer. The other part is 1) being a guy, I wind up buying a lot of gifts for my gf and 2) I have a tendency to buy stuff on impulse, then hate it when I try it on and want to pass it on to someone else. I can't do either of those with no-transfer items.

As to free copies for alts...no *way*! If you buy a Barbie, should you have a right to ask for identical outfits if you buy a second Barbie? Hell no! Different AV, transfer across if you've bought transferable stuff, otherwise buy it again.

I have generally only sold transferable items and with the new registration I am very glad that i have done this.

Answer to OP, no way. There is no way to verify.

Thanks for your feedback. Now I don't feel so bad that I have said no.Lost,
I am shocked that someone actually involved a Linden. They have a lot of nerve. It shouldn't have been much to that Live Help Conversation. You had no way of knowing who was behind the account. I am surprised that a Linden even reponded.

Regards,
~Mad

If you have an alt account, that's exactly what it is, an alternate. I'm learning how to make my own objects right now, and eventually hope to have my own space. I intend to have all my items transferable, no mod, no copy. If this doesn't suit someone, too bad. It's my hard work they're buying.
That's my opinion...

I treat every avatar as a single, separate, unique individual. Even if I knew that was my friend's alt, they are not going to get a new and separate items for their alt account on none transfer items. I don't even care even if the Linden says that they are the same person (I'm in a country where people with credit card info actually register accounts intended for friends without credit cards), so no go.

If they start bitchin' about it, I have a Mute button and I'm not afraid to use it.

;0 I'm Willow's alt.. Please give me all the stuff I purchased on Willow ;0

in a word - no.

I don't do this, but I sell cars, so unless someone buys a highly customized model, I wouldn't send it to an alt. Also, they'd have to have a very good reason, and be able to have the original account confirm it.

On the other hand, if I sold avatars, I'd do this on a case by case basis. For example, when Luskwood first came out with their wolf avatar, I bought two, and essentially had two different characters with one name. I later decided to split the two into separate avs, so I talked to one of the head Luskwood folks, and she was very helpful in making the transfer to my new account. Definitely one of the best customer service experiences I've had in SL, but with the influx of alts, who knows if they'd do it again.