This goes out to the lindens

It seems you get a grant to further your work in SL and nothing comes into play.
The downtime increases the bugs are always worse and worse.
Then you take away once again and we the players get what?
Longer log in times lots and lots of downtime.
Inturupted game play(grid restarts). Where does it end and where does the good begin?
I'm sorry I just don't ever see where any improvements are made.
I play souly because of others. I dread thinking of logging in and getting booted, then not knowing if i can log in and or having to wait for how long ?
Yes there are no other games (like) SL out there and yes there will be games to replace SL eventually. You LL need to remember player loyalty only goes as deep as the next (game)if your in the buisness of making a lasting game you really need to build a game that has better content wich means less bugs less log in times and much much less downtime. If you read the forums you'll see that players create what makes SL such a wonderful experience and those players are the very ones that will make a new game an exciting and better place. My word to the wise is put your efforts where best spent.
Add to the game not take away. My post about giving nothing was all about why give anything at all to anyone only in the end to have it taken away.You claim this is all to make SL better and I for one don't see it getting any better.I've played now for over a year and have seen some really smooth game time but it as everything else was very short lived.Pulling out dwell like greatly decreasing stipend will have its affect and maybe it won't matter much or maybe it will? The whole thing with dwell is to stabilize (keeping prices higher) the L$'s.Makes no matter to me how high or low it goes.
I myself never buy or sells L$'s.
My concern is why are you always taking and not improving?
I always hear that downtime is to improve game play yet it never happens.
Its simply a quick fix that might work temporarily.
Its a fact that you can do whatever you want with the game and sooner or later you'll make a decision that will be the last straw even for those that are hard core I beleive in linden lab players.
But hey it is your game after all and not ours that is why I will and never have much stake in SL its just a platform to meet some really nice people and see just how creative and intellagent people are.In saying that yes your the ones that put that together and for that I am very grateful. I'm just a voice telling you that where your headed is the wrong direction. It definetly is the wrong direction if this was a ploy to end a power play between you and certain players.I'll stand by this and know that it is right: Let the players decide what is a fair price for L$'s if you think that it will become worthless then let it be.
We the players will simply come up with a something new and creative.I personally feel there is a monster growing inside of SL and its showing its ugly head($$). For you to feed it will only add fuel to the fire. Once SL is to expensive to play what do you think will happen? I love the people that play and really enjoy the time spent with them. I for one will say that LL your time would be better spent on making SL better not just taking and taking.The day that SL is silent I for one will not be heard from or there to say I told you so. Me like many others will simply be gone.I never was and never will be a yes man. If I am to be of any good then I feel the only thing to do is tell it like it is.From the heart the mouth speaketh.

paragraphs, por favor!

edit: also, the "you take things from us but never give us anything but pain" premise is way played out, dude. Come on, now.

(Give) If you notice is in the context of game play not a free hand out not as in I want something for nothing. Its simply put as (give) less downtime (give) less bugs (give) less interuptions. Not wanting a hand out just given better gameplay is all I'm asking for

It appears to me that most of the problems in SL lately are a direct result of 'we the people'. People glutting the exchange with hoarded Lindens and the disgruntled taking the grid down for seemingly stupid and spiteful reasons. What should the Lindens do about that? Maybe background and/or mental health screens on anyone wanting to join SL? I don't see how you can fault the Lindens for this.

Then I say let the people dictate what is a fair price for L$'s it'll stabilize itself.
It's of no use for LL to step in and help mantain prices.
Player driven game means player driven prices is what i say.
Why take from most and to feed the few?
Answer to your question is the lindens need to let the exchange go however we the players let it go.

Uh, yeah, but if someone with a few million $L to waste wants to crash the exchange/cause a panic (to profit later), it's trivial to do. I, for one, don't want a wildly chaotic money exchange. The lindens should, and are, watching the $L rate and adjusting the economy accordingly.

Most players would love to see the L$'s drop in price.
If this is a socialist game then let the prices be set and not moved.
Seems for the time being its just plain old republican party antics.
Let the L$'s go where they will, I for one don't care I don't buy and or sell L$'s dollars so let it ride.
Republican mentality is make the rich richer and all will benefeit.
Doesn't work never did never will.
Creating oppurtunity like a democratic party always works.
Phillip Linden has the chance to do something positive for all in SL not take and take.
Thats the easy way out.
Lets see some real oppurtunity created for the common player.
Dwell will have its affect and it will be felt by one and all just as stipend decreases did.

I bet they would. Until content creators upped the prices of their products to get the same amount of money when cashout time comes.



Who said it was a socialist game? This is a free market.




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Yet hundreds of people (thousands maybe) rely on the value of the $L to pay for tier, food, groceries, college, and whatever else. Thanks for being shortsighted, you're the best.




And this has to do with...?




Seriously, are you just trolling?



I dunno, playing a game and getting paid for it is a sweet deal to me. I don't want to subsidize your sex clubs.



Last I checked I use the same client you do. That means you have the same build/script/texture tools I do. There's your opportunity. Go fetch.



You're right, I'll lose a grand total of $L134 this month. The museum will have to close ex post haste.

Phillip Linden proved point incase that it is a socialist game.
If you don't like a sex club well its your right to not drop by even with your alt
Its not the ingame build/texture/script tools that make money as you well know thank you for your shortsidedness.
I wished that the ingame creators did up there prices it'll show who's ingame for greed and profit only.
last i looked this is a program that runs for people to enjoy.
Nothing here thats tangable.If you have high stakes ingame sorry bout your luck.
You shiouldn't be so narrow minded as to see who has the first and last call to what goes on ingame.
If you can't see that at all well I can sure see who's shortsided. Now theres a bone for you to naw on

I deem thee "Troller":
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/troller.htm

Well if you're referring to the 11mill LL just recently recieved (assuming they've actually seen the money yet) I think it may take more than just a few days to see any effect from that if it's even visible to us. Ya think?

Your entire posts makes it sound like you don't even like the game you're playing. If thats the case why play it? If thats not the case and you are enjoying it and clearly changes like dwell won't directly affect you... then what's your complaint?

As for the downtime recently... that was caused by a pissy little player, a griefer. LL fixed his damage (well probably not the damage in his head which makes him do dumbass things like that) Blame him not the professionals busy working on the problems he caused.

Hi Darque.

Sorry to see you are disappointed with SL's performance and progress. The system works much much worse for me now, in a technical sense, than it did when I started over two years ago, so I can see how a person would be disappointed with the current state of affairs.


What is it that you like to do in SL? Do you build or script or make clothes or other working, creative type activities, or is SL's main use for you as a chatroom, or what?


There's no program virtually identical to SL, but there are similar ones, such as there.com, which is free now, and Active Worlds, and there's an old thing called Cybertown you might like.

On the contrary Allana I like the game.
I like the players and I really enjoy some controvercy to flavor it all.
Would you yourself knowing and seeing that something isn't right stand by and do nothing say nothing ?
I would say not.
Its a right we all have to voice an opinion and as well that we voice a difference with that opinion. Your opinion is as good as mine right ?
What i find wrong is that LL continues on a path of taking wich is the easy road.
Its obvious that bugs are inherent to this game and will always be there.
Yes its a game ahead of its time and yes there are other games out there that are different but as well are much more bug free than SL is.
I use the word game simply in a reference to simplify Secondlife.
No its not the normal type game and yes it has its fantastic points , but to never say anything would do nobody any good at all.
And oh yes Heya SuezzanneC, thank you but I'll stick around here for fun

Sounds like you've made the rounds there Suezanne.
thank you for your suggestion, but i like it here just fine.
I'll refer you to the post i just finished. and ask the same to you. Would you sit silent as things went wrong around you in total silence or would you do and or say something about them ?
And as for what i do in SL: I build I do textures and make clothes.
none of wich matters wether I make money on or not i do it for the creative output and give most away to freinds.
If you actually knew me ingame you'd see that I am a very easy going fun loving person.
I come here to voice an opinion and vent concerns.
Ask anyone that knows me and you'll see
oh yes i might add that i build all of my own computers and debug them till they run just as smooth as silk.
I'm as critical about my own work as i am about others.

Politely shows Darque the door and sings that old fave 'if you dont like what you see here get the funk out"

I do do that.
When I'm tired of SL i log out.
Don't you ?
I also play other games as well do you ?
And as well some doors swing both ways do you ?

The inevitable result from having many masters is madness.

If you're the only person in a theater yelling "FOCUS!" perhaps you need glasses?


Clearly your expectations are higher than Linden Labs can meet.

Is that their fault? Or yours?


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Hope leads to expectation, expectation to disappointment, disappointment to destructive behavior. Therefore: Hope kills.

Politely shows Boliver the door and sings that old fave "if you dont like reading other people's opinions get the funk out of the forums"

coco

I think I found my new sig quote!

Pot, meet kettle, kettle meet pot - you should get along notoriously - you have something in common!

Or perhaps the film needs to be focused, and only one person had enough gumption to do anything about it.

Occam's Razor. Those MIGHT have been giants Don Quixote was attacking, too.

You're right, we all have our opinions. I guess then my opinion is that there isn't a lot thats wrong with SL. I see everything as having an explanation and while I might not like the explanations for some things, I can see that other people do and that in some cases I'm in the minority.
The bugs, yes there are some and though I haven't played a lot of online games before this one, I imagine there are bugs in all of them too. I think one of the reasons we may see more is that SL is (forgive me for not being technically challenged here) constantly changing and constantly adjusting to those changes. It isn't a situation where we download a game and maybe an update ocassionally and what we have is always what we get. This universe is running on a constantly altering stream. (maybe someone else can explain that better).. Anyway, what I'm saying is that for LL that will simply always mean having to keep up and play catch up.

As far as things like the dwell change, I'm not overly thrilled about that either.. I'm about to open a new place and getting those little dwell payments would have been nice. But at the same time I hate all the camping chairs everywhere and the fact that traffic just doesn't mean anything anymore. Popular places now only means they have more chairs than the other places. I see that going away as a positive change that just might be worth upsetting some people.

I have actually seen this situation with films being out of focus and almost everyone just sitting doing nothing and one or a very few people shout "Focus!". In every case the film was out of focus. Also, there is a high probability that even if the whole crowd starts to yell "Focus!", some particular individual said it first, at which point they were the only one to have done so.

I have been the only person in a theater to get up an get someone to find the projectionist to tell him the projector stopped and the film burnt up on more than one occasion, and similarly for sound that has stopped.

Occam's Razor should not be used to the point where one simplifies explanations by eliminating observed results.

Well I guess its only a little time till this one is no longer topical, so I'll post it again before it sinks into obscurity:

*singing*

Without our DI check the end is plain to see...
To keep our club alive we must think laterally...
Our daily dwell must increase exponentially....
We must find, 50 ways to lag a clubber...

50 ways to lag a clubber..

So rez some physical prims Jim..
Now set em to light Mike...
Go stream in some porn Shaun..

Are you following me?

Res a partical ball Paul,
Go put on your Hair Claire!
Start the dance machine Jean..

Bring that framerate to 3....