1503 Acknowledged

Yes, idealistically that's true. However, there will always be people who fire up the griefers. Find me one message board where absolutely no one feeds the trolls.


I see where you're coming from with this, but it still doesn't address the server issues. So what if I can set my client to ignore hordes of griefers...I still won't be able to enjoy anything because the sheer number of them are killing the servers all the time.

Well at least we are no longer totally ignored.

Robin's posting on an external website about a pat each other on the back conference in Boston where he says, "My role, in addition to being part of the "fun stuff", was to talk about issues of identity and trust building in virtual worlds. " Was interesting but not a responce to 1503.

Rome burns and we are hearing about the Boston conference.

They are looking at " the integration of additional identifying validation, such as the new Higgins system being developed by the Eclipse Foundation." Sounds very impressive until you go to the website http://www.eclipse.org/org/ That is not a working solution, that is something neat that might work in the future.

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So do we bail our Votes from 1503 to a new proposal? Me thinks 2nd time around going to be loads harder to get the numbers. Have to remove from one and place on another. Lets make 1503 it. Make it grow till they have to delete it and then we can go again.

Freyr, at the least we both believe that tools will reduce the griefer population. If Jillian's proposal gets considered and implemented it will mean the end of most of the griefing to individual landholders.

The server crashing issue can be tackled separately once an effective block can be found. It's in our best interest to never give up and constantly seek solutions.

Of course, Aodhan, the new tools will be a good start. I'm just a bit concerned that it will be a half-solution treated as a full solution.

Any votes that were applied to 1503 have been returned to the voters, and can be applied to a new proposal.

I would suggest that a new proposal be started, clearly and unequivocaly stating that the only acceptable acknowledgement is IMPLEMENT AGE VERIFICATION THAT MEANS SOMETHING, and ram that back up to the top of the charts for action.

Not "Of course I am an adutl! Girl Scout's Honor!" Yeah, right...

Not "Well, the door's wide open, but if we catch a kid in here we'll throw them out."

For Gods sake, the current policy makes about as much sense as operating a combined XXX Porn store, movie theatre and escort service in the anchor location of a major mall, with no doors or walls at all between the mall and the adult content! Placing a tiny sign over the counter saying "Adults only. If you are under-age, you will be told to leave." would be completely unacceptable in the RL world. I don't see how they think they can get away with it in SL.

Ceera:

I've just posted new prop 1523 which is basically a re-assertion of the general clamouring for a return to the Old Signup System. (except with a bit more "no, this ISN'T about better anti-grief tools" wordage in it)

I know the old system still had some age-lying problems but did set the bar a good deal higher than "no serious checks at all" - would you consider placing votes on my repeat-prop as a starting point?

Well Buxton, you got all my votes, and all my friends, and the few alts that I created.

I'll bet L$100 that the "Official Linden Response", if there is one at all, will be to refuse to return to verified ID. Why, I can't possibly imagine. But it's clearly their opinion that allowing unlimited, unverified free accounts is somehow a good thing, and they don't give a flying F*** about how badly it screws over the existing residents!

There's also no mention of the teens-on-main-grid issue being addressed.

Sigh Creea you are so right........They might do a "LITTLE adjustment to make people happy. But As long as there is free money for newbies and or problem people wanting to hurt the quility of the game. ell have nothing but beggers, griefters, just plain outcast people causing harm and hurting the over all quility of the game.

Newbies use to be easy to spot, but these days OMG ````` Even i can`t tell that well. All of us mentors, and greeters really needs to bond together to get thur this dark time on sl.
Peace and love.

Usagi

They evaded the second vote as well. They didn't reply about the signup page.. they just dangled another treat in front of our noses "Oh, looky, shiny anti-grief stuff" and hope we'll swallow and forget about the original question. We don't. We won't. They seem to be so very secure that people won't run off. And maybe they won't. SL _is_ addictive. But they'll be surprised how much more hard everyday Linden Life can get when you have half your paying population against you.

*growls*
Sheila!