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New Way To Warn Against Security Orbs? (PICS)

Chronic Skronski
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07-21-2006 11:15
From: Haramino Itoku
....just like IRL u have alarm systems cause you don't want people comming in your house when you are away
Home alarm systems do not shoot to kill after six seconds if someone inadvertently cuts across the corner of your lawn.

I love those signs - they should be sold in several SL stores.
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Jon Rolland
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07-21-2006 11:25
From: Chronic Skronski
Home alarm systems do not shoot to kill after six seconds if someone inadvertently cuts across the corner of your lawn.

I love those signs - they should be sold in several SL stores.


Mine does *evil grin* although I'm thinkin about buying the vacant lot out back... my backyard is runnin outta room for graves.
Musuko Massiel
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07-21-2006 11:30
Any chance you can send those sign textures my way, Felix?

In fact, you should make and distribute a "landmine fencing kit". For those with orb-wielding neighbours. :)

Musuko.
Felix Uritsky
Prime Minister of Lupinia
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07-21-2006 11:55
Holy crap, thanks for the positive responses! I really didn't anticipate this much feedback, nor did I think there would be demand for the signs :-)

I think I'm going to make a texture kit with the signs, perhaps in different primary languages based on theming (Russian, Spanish, Hebrew, and Arabic?). I've already given the PSDs to two people, I'll set a box with a kit for sale in Lupinia for L$5 (to cover upload costs).
Yeshua Christiansen
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07-21-2006 12:27
From: Rose Bradley
The land owner has every right to use a security orb.


The Lindens have stated more than once here on the forums that using llTeleportHome in a security script is not allowed, except for "repeat offenders". The function llEjectFromLand is preferred.

I quite often get TP'd home with no warning. It's frustrating, and when that happens, I file an AR.
Chronic Skronski
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07-21-2006 12:32
I would definitely buy them if I had a need - but my neighbours are neighbourly. :)
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Felix Uritsky
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07-21-2006 19:51
Alright, I finally got these finished. I have sign kits available in four languages, Russian, Spanish, Hebrew, and Korean. Each kit includes a large informational sign intended to be placed on the border where crossings are likely to occur, a standard minefield warning sign, a striped barrier, an informational notecard, and the raw textures should you wish to integrate them into your own objects.

Kits are L$5 each, or L$10 for all four together. The price associated is purely to recoup upload costs, and any other proceeds will be donated to an in-game anti-grief organization of some sort, I'm open to suggestions.

Buy them here: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kekekabic/14/131/119/?title=Republic%20of%20Lupinia

(I hope this doesn't come across as an ad, as that's not my intention. Once I recover the costs associated with this project, I may release the signs as freebies)
Yiffy Yaffle
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07-21-2006 21:32
From: Felix Uritsky
Alright, I finally got these finished. I have sign kits available in four languages, Russian, Spanish, Hebrew, and Korean. Each kit includes a large informational sign intended to be placed on the border where crossings are likely to occur, a standard minefield warning sign, a striped barrier, an informational notecard, and the raw textures should you wish to integrate them into your own objects.

Kits are L$5 each, or L$10 for all four together. The price associated is purely to recoup upload costs, and any other proceeds will be donated to an in-game anti-grief organization of some sort, I'm open to suggestions.

Buy them here: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kekekabic/14/131/119/?title=Republic%20of%20Lupinia

(I hope this doesn't come across as an ad, as that's not my intention. Once I recover the costs associated with this project, I may release the signs as freebies)

Il take a english one, hehe :P
*copies the url*

I'm not against security systems, i just dislike bad usage of them like making it attack anyone not on its access list, not having it safe on foreign land, and using push. Now if your using eject, and have a fair warning time and only have it set to target specificly banned people, then it's ok with me.
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Felix Uritsky
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07-22-2006 13:23
From: Yiffy Yaffle
Il take a english one, hehe :P


I haven't made one in just English, yet, I kinda wanted to give them an exotic look. I'll see what I can do, though :-)
Ceera Murakami
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07-25-2006 11:25
For anyone who is interested, I have made up a set of 30 textures for 'Police Line - do not cross', 'Danger - Live fire zone', 'Trespassers will be shot', and similar 'barrier tapes', plus a simple 10 M prim that displays 5 repeats of the tape message front and back, with matching solid-colored edges. You can get any single texture plus the display prim from me for what it cost me to upload it.

I'll also be offering a set of three texture bundles at TRU, for those that want the full set.
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-25-2006 11:26
Can I get a security orb that looks kinda like hellow kitty?
Wildefire Walcott
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07-25-2006 11:36
Very handsome signs. I WISH my neighbors used security orbs (with timers and warnings, of course). They all just have damned access lists enabled FOR NO REASON SINCE THEY'RE NEVER HOME and my avatar bounces around like a pinball whenever I have to fly from one piece of my property to the next. I may just do something like that so I see where the banlines are before I slam into 'em. Good idea.
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Ghoti Nyak
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07-25-2006 11:49


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Ranma Tardis
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07-25-2006 11:50
From: Wildefire Walcott
Very handsome signs. I WISH my neighbors used security orbs (with timers and warnings, of course). They all just have damned access lists enabled FOR NO REASON SINCE THEY'RE NEVER HOME and my avatar bounces around like a pinball whenever I have to fly from one piece of my property to the next. I may just do something like that so I see where the banlines are before I slam into 'em. Good idea.


Bloody stupid restricting the ban lines visibility to a few meters. What are the Lindens thinking?
So the land is less ugly without the lines. It makes moving around SL a lot harder!
Maklin Deckard
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07-25-2006 11:50
From: Haramino Itoku
i don't see why this could piss u off...if someone does not want unwanted visitors on theire land for whatever reason the have the full right to do so....just like IRL u have alarm systems cause you don't want people comming in your house when you are away sl has security orbs so that no one can come desacrate your land i pesonaly used one and it hase come in handy in the past


These systems irritate people because they are NOT like RL. RL security systems make noise, flashing lights, notify the owner and the cops and are USUALLY in buildings, not triggered by setting foot on the neighbors grass. RL security systems also do NOT throw you several states away (sims in SL) for a single footstep.

Hopefully you can see the difference between an RL security system and a SL one... I doubt anyone would complain if the security orb just pushed you back off the property...its the teleport HOME part that annoys folks.
VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-25-2006 11:51
From: Ghoti Nyak


-Ghoti


Exactly!

lol
Burnman Bedlam
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07-25-2006 11:57
I would think with the warning message, people would have the sense to leave the parcel. :)

From: Maklin Deckard
These systems irritate people because they are NOT like RL. RL security systems make noise, flashing lights, notify the owner and the cops and are USUALLY in buildings, not triggered by setting foot on the neighbors grass. RL security systems also do NOT throw you several states away (sims in SL) for a single footstep.

Hopefully you can see the difference between an RL security system and a SL one... I doubt anyone would complain if the security orb just pushed you back off the property...its the teleport HOME part that annoys folks.
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Sara Sullivan
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Omg I Love It
07-25-2006 12:24
Can I buy those red trinagle mine signs or have a copy sent to me?
I cant believe I laughed so hard, I have just the place for them, My partner is a Like MR security and I WOULD LOVEEEEE to put that on his office door
LOl
Alex Fitzsimmons
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07-25-2006 12:43
From: Ceera Murakami
*laughs* It's not a half bad solution. Rather creative. I've always disliked the concept that I might inadvertantly cross a completely unmarked border, and find myself in a free-fire zone of some sort.

The one suggection I would make would be to make the signs and barrier tape 100% alpha from the other person's side. If you want to use that kind of markings for protecting your guests from inadvertantly stepping into danger, that's cool. But the person on the other side might be less amenible to having their view cluttered up in such a way than your neighbor was.


I wouldn't. Definitely not. For one, for the safety of visitors, it's good for them to be able to see the eye-catching fence and signs early on, from any angle. For another, I wouldn't feel the least obligated to coddle a tp-home orb user. You want mean, nasty and unfriendly? You've got it. You lie in the bed you've made.
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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07-25-2006 12:46
From: Felix Uritsky
Holy crap, thanks for the positive responses! I really didn't anticipate this much feedback, nor did I think there would be demand for the signs :-)

I think I'm going to make a texture kit with the signs, perhaps in different primary languages based on theming (Russian, Spanish, Hebrew, and Arabic?). I've already given the PSDs to two people, I'll set a box with a kit for sale in Lupinia for L$5 (to cover upload costs).


That's more than reasonable. :) I'll make a note -- I might even drop by and buy them someday just to support the idea. ;)
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Burnman Bedlam
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07-25-2006 12:49
I wonder if this would be considered harassment.
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Ranma Tardis
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07-25-2006 12:52
From: Burnman Bedlam
I wonder if this would be considered harassment.


Wht do you think could be harrassment? Warning signs?
Alex Fitzsimmons
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07-25-2006 12:55
From: Ranma Tardis
Bloody stupid restricting the ban lines visibility to a few methers. What are the Lindens thinking?
So the land is less ugly without the lines. It makes moving around SL a lot harder!


I agree. In fact, I think ban lines should make a property as ugly as possible. I wouldn't mind if the entire property, not just the border, were absolutely covered with ban lines visible from any distance whatsoever.

If you're saying "I don't want you here," why should it be pretty to the person you don't want there? And if you're saying "I don't want anyone here, ever," why should your property be pretty to anyone? It should as unpleasant-looking as possible, just like the wart on the face of the grid that it is (unless you were considerate enough at least to restrict your unwelcoming build to a skybox hundreds of meters up).
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Burnman Bedlam
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07-25-2006 12:55
From: Ranma Tardis
Wht do you think could be harrassment? Warning signs?


A warning sign is one thing... implying the person on the next parcel is a griefer is a little different.

Keep in mind, I don't have an auto-TP script active on my land... just throwing a pondering out there. :)
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Maklin Deckard
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07-25-2006 12:56
From: Burnman Bedlam
I would think with the warning message, people would have the sense to leave the parcel. :)


That is IF they turn on the message (The OP said his neighbor did, but most ingame do not, a fact I have discovered to the point I gave up flying vehicles....after about 20 ports home, I had ONE message and they had their timing set so low I could not clear the parcel before being homed....so a really useful warning, eh?) and give one enough time to back up. Unfortunately, most do not. Personally, LL should require teleport home to have a confirmation box if not triggered through LL land mangement tools...and force alarm systems to eject rather than home.

There is NO reason for using teleport home over eject, both serve the same purpose...using the first one is just being an a**hole...something SL has no shortage of.
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