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Ban Pedophilia from SL?

prak Curie
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03-28-2006 00:26
From: bella Ophelia
What is beautiful and sad about this thread is that in 6 pages, a simple statement like "ban pedophilia in SL" is simply attacked.

The statement is not simple. We do not trust you to limit yourself.
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Kris Ritter
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03-28-2006 00:27
From: Reitsuki Kojima
The sad thing is, you think "ban pedophilia in SL" is a simple statement.


The sad thing is, she thinks there is pedophilia in SL.

Way to trivialise child abuse.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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03-28-2006 00:27
From: bella Ophelia
if you'd take your diaper off I would have talked to you.


Did anyone out in left field see who threw that?
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Weedy Herbst
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03-28-2006 00:27
From: bella Ophelia
if you'd take your diaper off I would have talked to you.


You sure your not a pedo?
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bella Ophelia
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03-28-2006 00:28
From: Kris Ritter
But surely anyone calling for the thread to be locked, as well as anyone that would conspire to lock it, Linden or resmod, must therefore be a pedophile and supporter? Well, we already know that the Lindens are all pedophiles because they refuse to ban roleplay between two adults using avatars. Perverts.

At least, that's what I got out of the last half dozen threads.


considering every other thread I open about paedophilia is locked... I don't think they are pedophiles, I think they don't like anyone suggesting some of their technology is being used by pedophiles at the benefit of their bottom line.
Reitsuki Kojima
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03-28-2006 00:28
From: Kris Ritter
The sad thing is, she thinks there is pedophilia in SL.

Way to trivialise child abuse.


Oh, there probably is. But as myself and others have pointed out, in her mis-targeted emotion-driven crusade, she is hurting the chances of protecting the real children, in favor of protecting adults from other adults.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Yuriko Muromachi
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03-28-2006 00:28
From: Cory Edo
Its a person's right to fantasize about anything they want to.


When it crosses the line into actually involving a child, that's where its against the law, and rightfully so.

Amen!

I have every right to fantasize about murdering my co-workers by using a powersaw, chop them into tiny pieces, putting them in a garbage bag and feeding them to rabid dogs or hurl them over the Pasig River! I have every right to fantasize that I'm in an orgy that involved Sephiroth, Vincent Valentine and Rufus Shinra. I have every right to fantasize that a guy in an afro is banging a chibi-girl, because frankly it's funny.

I have every right to play out my fantasies in virtual format. My characters in counterstrike is going around shooting everyone, am I suddenly guilty of murder now? I'm playing a hentai game and my main character is doing his mother, his girflriend and his little sister. Am I suddenly guilty of incest and pedophila and I should go to jail?

I don't know who you are to tell me what is wrong and right for me to fantasize or even think about. You are not my mother, my boss, the president of the United States or even God. And even they can't tell me what to think.

In reality, no matter how pissed off I am, I am not murdering my co-workers. I have a boyfriend and although an orgy with guys that does not include the boyfriend sounds kinky, I will not do it because I know it's wrong. I do not go out of my way to make an account to get into the Teen Grid SL and harass the minors there. I do not go into chatrooms to deliberately lure unsuspecting teenagers to meet with me so I can capture them and sell them to sex slavers, and if I am doing such things you have every right to call the police and send me to jail.

I don't know about you, but I understand the difference between fantasy and reality as do the rest of the non psychotic/sober/unmedicated folks here do. And until you know the difference yourself you're going to be stuck here harping and trolling, as the more kinder folks will try for the umpteenth time explaining again and again to you the difference.

And no, frankly I don't really care if you or anybody else got banged by their dad, their uncle, grandfather, milkman Dan or whoever. I don't believe what half of the people put in their profiles or claim in the forums about themselves as 100% accurate anyway (the internet makes it so easy to lie about anything under the sun). The way you drabble on regarding that child avatars in SL interacting with an adult avie as a form of pedophilia belittles and mocks the real victims of pedophilia.

If you really want to stop pedophilia, why don't you go and harp about something that actually involves children? I mean, real, alive, breathing and kicking children and not ones made out of pixels in a platform that allows people to create their fantasies?

And yes. I am defending my right to fantasize, to think, of thoughts no matter how obscene, how disgusting, how moritifying, as long as I don't act it out in reality and I'm not harming anyone physically or psychologically, should be fine and left alone.

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03-28-2006 00:29
From: bella Ophelia
if you'd take your diaper off I would have talked to you.


Would you have offered candy, too?
Kris Ritter
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03-28-2006 00:29
From: Weedy Herbst
You sure your not a pedo?


By virtue of participation in this thread and not in 100% agreement with the OP, we are all pedophiles, don't you see?
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prak Curie
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03-28-2006 00:29
From: bella Ophelia
if you'd take your diaper off I would have talked to you.

Now, just to be clear, are you suggesting that I have a diaper on because I am under age or because I am a pedophile?
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03-28-2006 00:30
From: bella Ophelia
Actually you are right... while I'd love to believe that there is a safe haven in every woman, some are just like some men and would rather defend a man's right to jack off to images of children being raped than take a stand and say it is wrong.


I will defend any person's right to think what they want, as long as it hurts no one else.

I will defend any person's right to express themselves sexually however they want, as long as it hurts no one else and, if it involves a partner, the partner is adult and consenting.

I will defend these things because realistically, there is no way to control the thoughts of others. You can ban or outlaw anything in this world, and the minds of people will still be free. You can help educate and heal those who are sick, and you can work to prevent abuse from happening using methods that actually provide results.

You're full of hate and anger and hurt. You need to get help to let this go and get control of your life back. Until then, you're still letting your abuser hurt you.
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bella Ophelia
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03-28-2006 00:30
From: Kris Ritter
The sad thing is, she thinks there is pedophilia in SL.

Way to trivialise child abuse.


Yeah... so sad... she also thinks that there are computers used in SL.

Such a lost and uninformed soul. Doesn't she know that this is Utopia?
Reitsuki Kojima
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03-28-2006 00:30
From: bella Ophelia
considering every other thread I open about paedophilia is locked... I don't think they are pedophiles, I think they don't like anyone suggesting some of their technology is being used by pedophiles at the benefit of their bottom line.


Or, they could be closed because you have attacked me, alone, in this relativly short thread a half a dozen times already, and others just as much. Personal attacks are verboten.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Kaboom Pow
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03-28-2006 00:31
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Still waiting for one single solitary example of a pedophile attacking you in these threads, though...
I'm still waiting for bella to put forth a single well defined idea of what she'd like done about this issue.
Nepenthes Ixchel
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03-28-2006 00:31
Bella, would you mind recruiting a few more people to backup your posititon? Flame wars are far more fun when the two sides are evenly matched, this feels like a one-man-versus-the-world sort of deal.

I was going to post about how I support the right of consenting adults to do things I want no part in, as well as some evidence of ageplay being beneficial to abuse survivors and so on but looking at the posts so far it's all be said before.

XCite! Whip is aimed at dead horse.
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bella Ophelia
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03-28-2006 00:31
From: Belaya Statosky
Would you have offered candy, too?


anything to get you to stop dressing as a child!
Reitsuki Kojima
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03-28-2006 00:31
From: Yuriko Muromachi
I have every right to fantasize that I'm in an orgy that involved Sephiroth, Vincent Valentine and Rufus Shinra.


Mmmmmm... Sephiroth...
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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03-28-2006 00:31
Jesus FUCK people!

I too, am in Cory's boat, it happened to me, by a teacher, when I was 12/13. Do I let it control my life? NO! Do I think every person I come across that has a fantasy is a paedophile? NO!

For example:

I have a daughter, she is 5, almost 6. Her father is 11years older than me and started dating me when I was 17. Is he a paedo? We've done the whole schoolgirl thing, yes yes, hes pulled on the pigtails and we both had a fucking GREAT time, DESPITE what I went through as pre teen. Hey, I tell you what, shouldn't I be being reported to social services? Isn't my daughter in danger because i've been involved in a schoolgirl fantasy?

ZOMG!!111oneoene!!11elventyone! ALERT THE PAPERS CHARLES.

Get a fucking grip, for real.

It really makes you wonder if the people that are so adamently insisting that everyone else is a paedophile or supports it for allowing people to have fantasies (IN THEIR HEAD OR A VIRTUAL WORLD) aren't REALLY the ones you should be worried about doing something wrong. Denial much, or just plain fucking stupid?
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Belaya Statosky
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03-28-2006 00:32
From: bella Ophelia
anything to get you to stop dressing as a child!


So you want me to remove my clothes now? Are you sure there's something here you're not trying to tell us all...?
bella Ophelia
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03-28-2006 00:32
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
Bella, would you mind recruiting a few more people to backup your posititon? Flame wars are far more fun when the two sides are evenly matched, this feels like a one-man-versus-the-world sort of deal.

I was going to post about how I support the right of consenting adults to do things I want no part in, as well as some evidence of ageplay being beneficial to abuse survivors and so on but looking at the posts so far it's all be said before.

XCite! Whip is aimed at dead horse.
Nepenthes Ixchel flogs dead horse.
Nepenthes Ixchel flogs dead horse.
Nepenthes Ixchel flogs dead horse.
Nepenthes Ixchel flogs dead horse.
Dead horse spasms as rigor mortis sets in.


I know... It is like being in Mississippi in 1963 fighting for civil rights... but someone has to be the sane voice in the crowd...
Starax Statosky
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03-28-2006 00:33
if this carries on, Bella is going to end up being even more famous than Prokofy. She might even make the front page of the Herald at this rate!.


Get your autographs now while you can.
Reitsuki Kojima
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03-28-2006 00:33
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
Bella, would you mind recruiting a few more people to backup your posititon? Flame wars are far more fun when the two sides are evenly matched, this feels like a one-man-versus-the-world sort of deal.


It will be like David and Goliath, only this time, DAVID wins!

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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
bella Ophelia
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03-28-2006 00:33
From: Belaya Statosky
So you want me to remove my clothes now? Are you sure there's something here you're not trying to tell us all...?


I just want you to look like an adult... a naked adult is fine...
Belaya Statosky
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03-28-2006 00:34
From: bella Ophelia
I just want you to look like an adult... a naked adult is fine...


Are you coming on to me? :eek:
Yuriko Muromachi
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03-28-2006 00:35
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Mmmmmm... Sephiroth...


^_~ Guess what...I'm actually fantasizing him right now...him in whipped cream and strawberries, and 16. :D
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