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Jonas Pierterson

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Join date: 27 Dec 2005

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03-09-2006 12:26

My main beef with the updates is the downtime.. it smacks right at my weekend

they need to rotate days but thats not the topic this thread so don't keep it going past this post

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Osgeld Barmy

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Join date: 22 Mar 2005

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03-09-2006 16:43

When i played Asheron's Call every month i used to say, ahh 12 hour patch and a 4 hour hot fix (then sometimes another hotfix) SL's patching doesnt really bug me, but there are some things that make me wonder ...

im in agreement with Starax Statosky, i wish they would knock out some of the oldies

altho it personally doesnt affect me they should rotate somewhat to keep others happy

do i really need to download all 20mb for a handfull of changes (main progam aside there will be times the full install would be required)

and these damn post-it note features, i dont find much progerss in having to do something twice, once to implement it, and again to fix it

Raudf Fox

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Join date: 25 Feb 2005

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03-09-2006 17:26

I don't mind the redownload at all! I'm an addict and it doesn't bother me the least bit for the downtime and then the download, as long as they keep the goodness coming.

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Einsman Schlegel

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03-09-2006 17:37

I actually wonder how much its costing LL to port these patches. Bandwith costs a bunch yanno.

Mack Echegaray

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Join date: 15 Dec 2005

Posts: 145

03-09-2006 17:52

Bandwidth is cheap these days. I think I read that they pump out a gigabit/sec on average .... an inefficient patch process really isn't a big deal from that perspective.

As the number of users grow it may become more important though.

Michi Lumin

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Join date: 14 Oct 2003

Posts: 1,793

03-10-2006 11:08

The assumption is that you have broadband.

Similarly, these forums are not formatted for 640x480.

Hank Ramos

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Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,328

03-11-2006 05:33

One thing LL could do to make these updates more bearable is to have them download in the background while you are inworld or outworld, and then update automatically when the update is done (like Microsoft Automatic Update, unless they have a stupid patent on the idea). Right now, you have to stare at a screen and wait a few minutes to log into SL, click an install button, wait, then log in. LL could do a few things to smooth this process over so that it is least intrusive as it can be.

CrystalShard Foo

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Join date: 6 Feb 2004

Posts: 682

03-11-2006 06:03

I think that FireFox is the best example: Up until recently, a FireFox update simply downloaded a new installer and installed a new FireFox over the old one using the standard Installation software.

This is what SecondLife is doing now - downloading a new installer and basicly doing the same as having the user go to a website and re-install everything.

Then FireFox 1.5 came out and introduced modular updates: Updates to FireFox now happen as modules, where only the relevent update files get downloaded and replaced. The download is much quicker and the installation is painless.

I'd like to see SecondLife heading toward the same direction.

(especialy if it means that it doesnt over-write the \character directory!)

Micki Baker

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Join date: 2 Nov 2005

Posts: 12

03-11-2006 07:21

I think that if Linden has to update weekly, they should switch around the days and times that they do it. *Gripes because I have off on Tues. and Weds.

! Let the Aussies suffer sometimes!

Frequent Updates Annoying
Jonas Pierterson Dark Harlequin Join date: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 3,660	03-09-2006 12:26 My main beef with the updates is the downtime.. it smacks right at my weekend they need to rotate days but thats not the topic this thread so don't keep it going past this post _____________________ Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	03-09-2006 16:43 When i played Asheron's Call every month i used to say, ahh 12 hour patch and a 4 hour hot fix (then sometimes another hotfix) SL's patching doesnt really bug me, but there are some things that make me wonder ... im in agreement with Starax Statosky, i wish they would knock out some of the oldies altho it personally doesnt affect me they should rotate somewhat to keep others happy do i really need to download all 20mb for a handfull of changes (main progam aside there will be times the full install would be required) and these damn post-it note features, i dont find much progerss in having to do something twice, once to implement it, and again to fix it
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	03-09-2006 17:26 I don't mind the redownload at all! I'm an addict and it doesn't bother me the least bit for the downtime and then the download, as long as they keep the goodness coming. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	03-09-2006 17:37 I actually wonder how much its costing LL to port these patches. Bandwith costs a bunch yanno.
Mack Echegaray Registered Snoozer Join date: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 145	03-09-2006 17:52 Bandwidth is cheap these days. I think I read that they pump out a gigabit/sec on average .... an inefficient patch process really isn't a big deal from that perspective. As the number of users grow it may become more important though.
Michi Lumin Sharp and Pointy Join date: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,793	03-10-2006 11:08 The assumption is that you have broadband. Similarly, these forums are not formatted for 640x480.
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	03-11-2006 05:33 One thing LL could do to make these updates more bearable is to have them download in the background while you are inworld or outworld, and then update automatically when the update is done (like Microsoft Automatic Update, unless they have a stupid patent on the idea). Right now, you have to stare at a screen and wait a few minutes to log into SL, click an install button, wait, then log in. LL could do a few things to smooth this process over so that it is least intrusive as it can be.
CrystalShard Foo 1+1=10 Join date: 6 Feb 2004 Posts: 682	03-11-2006 06:03 I think that FireFox is the best example: Up until recently, a FireFox update simply downloaded a new installer and installed a new FireFox over the old one using the standard Installation software. This is what SecondLife is doing now - downloading a new installer and basicly doing the same as having the user go to a website and re-install everything. Then FireFox 1.5 came out and introduced modular updates: Updates to FireFox now happen as modules, where only the relevent update files get downloaded and replaced. The download is much quicker and the installation is painless. I'd like to see SecondLife heading toward the same direction. (especialy if it means that it doesnt over-write the \character directory!)
Micki Baker Registered User Join date: 2 Nov 2005 Posts: 12	03-11-2006 07:21 I think that if Linden has to update weekly, they should switch around the days and times that they do it. *Gripes because I have off on Tues. and Weds. ! Let the Aussies suffer sometimes!

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