Wholesale sim discussion thread

Crazy shit! Kind of exaggerated if you ask me... they should start with blocks of 4 sims.
I mean, you could certainly have an island that was attached to the mainland.
I'll give whoever buys those blocks of sims L$10,000 if they name one of their sims Eggy
Seriously. I would give more, but I don't have more

I'll take the 40 sim continent, please! Here's the keys to my house and car for this months tier.

Actually, whilst us tourist peasants might not have that kinda money, I think the grid is just about to get a whole lot bigger fast!

What did I miss?

Thanks!

lol once again, a link to what I think... Sorry, but 3 threads all started up a the same time. Seems silly not to be all taking part in the same discussion.

Wholesale Land Sales Test

Wholesale is wholesale, not a starting bid price of 1k. I don't see the big draw tbh. Marketing hype imo.

maybe, Martin. But think about it; this isnt the kind of thing you cook up outta the blue and go 'hey, this'll work!'. It's a mind boggling leap in scale from current land sales methods.

I'd wager someone must have asked for this. So I'll wager it'll happen almost as soon as it's offered.

That's basically what the computers cost. They can't make it much lower than that or they'll be selling at a loss.

If I read that properly, it looks more like they'd rather have residents (read: Dreamland staff) do the dirty work of designing infrastructure, land formations, and new continents. This looks directly influenced by the success of resident-run island continents in that respect.


In that, I agree. Letting the landowners do that for them potentially opens up dev time for other things.


However - connecting it to the mainland... hrm. Well, I've already vented about the whole contiguous grid thing, so I'll give that a rest. Doing this with mainland sims makes me a little uneasy though, since it limits the compartmentalization and portability of potentially huge swaths of land. We'll see.


Ultimately, I think it's half "do our work for us," half an attempt to grab headlines with huge figures in the bottom line. Which isn't unwise on LL's part. Just... hm....

I don't think they're likely to make a lot of money off of this, Jeffrey, that's the point of wholesale

sure they will. If land goes online via auction "someone" is paying tier on it .

Didn't say it was about money per se. Think about it. "Second Life Resident buys virtual land for $40,000" sounds much more impressive than a constant stream of a few thousand.

Plus, it cuts costs, and (potentially) bottlenecks sim demand to bid higher.

(And yes, there's tier, but I doubt this will have significant impact on the market for that, Rick)

1)Simple business girl buys 40 mainland sims.
2)Simple business girl implements her "you buy it but you're really sorta renting it and I still own it" methodology.
3)Simple business girl can implement her own rules in "her" sims since she still technically owns them, but is collecting "tier" from them.
4)Repeat until the majority of the mainland (now) is the minority - until Dreamland owns the majority of the mainland, by far.
5)Bam, mainland resident-run government.

.. I wonder what the non-Dreamland mainland sims that remain will be called or regarded as. Will they be the outlands? The rebellious colonies?

Mainland land owners: what'll be -your- price?

Eventually, Dreamland will own the majority if not all of the mainland. Sure, this does free up time for LL to do development. But I think Philip's statement a while back about someone being "the government" was more prescient than we may think.

Things are gonna change around here. Big time.

.... Hmmm.....

*makes a couple calls*

If there is really a market for a $40,000 pop to buy 40 sims then the idea is brilliant. Saves man-hours LL would have to pay an employee to design the sims, run the auctions, track payments, give customer service as well as other advantages that come with a market of scale. I doubt however that many if any would be willing to do this with the exception of maybe Anshee.

I have no problem with non-LL owned sims, but still don't see why anyone would do it on the mainland. Apart from maybe being a little cheaper to buy initially, what advantage does a mainland sim have over a private continent?

On the mainland, there's always a danger of being next door to some sanctioned griefer in the next sim over, on a private continent, it's just water to the horizon. Plus, the 1 week limit on terraforming is pretty constraining (and I don't see the point).

Hmmm, $70,000+ for sims, and $164,000 a year in land fee = over $234,000 on the books starting into 2006 (minus leased equipment costs of course).

Awesome !!!

And to think lots'a people are like WOOT! if they made $1K Lindens in sales today, ROFL!!

Ugh, I could have an online degree in less hours and for less money than I've spent trying to make $1K Lindens in a day, omg hahahaha....... ok that sucks.

Wouldn't it be smarter to just buy those 40 sims as estates, seems like managing mainland rentals are a lot more hassle, and if you want to sell it, you have to terraform and zone it really quickly to not get a extra month of 40 sim tier.

Exactly. These sims WONT be another "Dreamland" because after they are sold they are EXACTLY like mainland sims. Its just someone did the landscaping and decided how to carve up the sims for selling. Also does it clearly state in that post by Robin that once you buy the sims you can put them individually up for auction? Or even auction them at all. My impression was that *poof* you own 40 mainland sims WITHOUT private estate powers/tool or anything else. Basically you can only do regular sells not auctions. And if you could auction them, who'd doing the auction? LL? What if there's a problem with payment? LL wouldnt care, you've already paid them. Would be nice for a little more clarity.

At this point I have the "More Power To Them" attitude.

MJ

You can buy and sell mainland plots which you can't do on private islands. With the little connector to the mainland, it sounds like a gated community.

It wont be. Mr Impeach Bush can buy some land there with this alt and set up shop. (Well assuming the person that bought the sims sells the land) Once the land is sold to Mr Impeach Bush, its HIS land. The original owner of the sim CANT take it back. This isnt going to be zoned or nothing like dream land.

But if all your implying by saying gated, ie due to the passage to get to it, well big deal with P2P and no estate powers. It will become stained like the regular mainland with no significance. But Im sure the person that buys the sims will paint them as being special. I know I would.

Did you expect them to do Blumfield? Or sell sims in large blocks connected to the mainland? Or turn over land formation of the mainland sims to large sacle land buyers?

I guess my point is that Boardman is zoned, one is issued a restrictions notecard upon purchase, no? Maybe guidelines could be issued. If they were to start something like this, wouldn't it be easier to do it on a mass of sims physically separate from the mainland?

And what's up with the land down under, too?

I wonder if a major investor will attempt to landscape a large scale urban environment? We could end up with a cityscape two or three times the size of Nova Albion complete with affordable rent and lag control.