Furrys are kinda cool, until it gets sexual....

Sorry, but this really bugs me. It's not a small handful, but rather the majority. Even the links in your signature backs that up. Hell, you are apart of that majority yourself. The moment you drew a picture of your furry boyfriend chained to a wall with an erect penis, or when you have online sex with an man-animal no matter how high your standards are, means you have crossed over into that group. This is the group you joined, and you are bound to be associated with everything that certain group does, even if it's "bad". Specially if you yourself does what is considered "bad".

Last two weeks or so, I have been looking into the furry fandom in detail. Heck, the other day I even took a trip into Furcadia. I've had nightmares since. Very very colorful nightmares. Telling me it's only a small handful furries that indulge in the "darker" side of the furry life will make you a god damn liar. It's a shame too, really. If it weren't for the overwhelming perverse nature in the furry fandom, furries would be no worse then most hard core starwars/trek fan in peoples eyes, and I would still like the Rescue Rangers.

As for why people think furry sex equals bestiality; it's a matter of perspective really. Having sex with an animal/animal-human while you are a human/animal/animal-human seems like bestiality in the eyes of many "outsiders". Even if it's only online, a lot of people look at it as bestiality, or the intent of. When an animal cock becomes part of your sex, that is pretty much the definition of bestiality. If it's online, does it still make it bestiality technically? I have no idea, but I'm sure that's something that can be argued much like "online sex with adult avatar and a child avatar equals pedophile". It really has nothing to do with how ignorant someone is, but rather peoples definition or feelings on a issue with a very thin line.

But uh... carry on.

Valid arguement. However, with my response I won't get as detailed.

Ok, so it's a social group that attaches to something, and some delve into 'darker' portions of it. If they keep it out of your business, really, how does it hurt you?

Easy - it doesn't.

But, on the flip side - don't go throwing yourself into it looking for those darker things, and they can't hurt you either.

Many groups/social outlets don't adhere to these boundries - but, for the most part, furries are harmless unless you make them not to be.

Think of it this way - all things aside - do you want to know who I'm poking? No. Do I want to know who you're poking? No.

Doesn't really matter if a little freaky is going on in the background if you have nothing to start a conversation with to dig it up in the first place. :3

hmmm..
so.... a bunch of kids on the teen grid are "furries"... to them they do it cause of anime.....
so.... i would imagine the same is held true here on the adult grid...

but I was curious as well and checked out the furries online, i found it odd

but just cause there are ppl see it as one way doesnt' mean everyone does....

How convenient. You probably will be finally able to get those again.

Yeah. Some of it can be disturbing. But, then again, so can anything else you slap into Google these days. Just go with the flow. I mean, take me for example. I give hugs in threads - and caramel. How can you not like that?

Unless, of course, I'm trying to lure you into a false sense of security...

:3

This is very true in a sense, but the "problem" exceeds that which can truely be avoided. Searching for my old childhood cartoons turns up results of Gadget from Rescue Rangers and My Little Pony doing things that can not be erased from the mind. Some of these furry artist have raped my child hood dreams, filling that newly opened love hole in my brain with very detailed pictures deplicting the misadventures of Donald Duck inside of Micky Mouse. There is alot more connecting the average person with furries besides the art, such as behavior and what not, but remembering those pictures made any vaild point I was going to make unwordable. In short though, as long as internet exist, we are going to have some connection to things that we would rather leave unconnected to ourselves.

very true.

caramel? where?!?!

Sad, but true. :\



EDIT: And ---



9 posts before yours. jrrdraco has it now, though.

/fadeintocrowd

eh.. Been involved in the 'scene' here for about three years and I can definitely say that anyone who wandered by our area with a "pornographic rescue rangers" avatar would... pretty much get dumbfounded stares and a summary eject-from-land.

While this may fall under the furry 'umbrella', (as 'hentai' may fall under 'anime'), I -really- will have to say that at least from my sphere of experience, that's nowhere near the norm. Not even a little bit.

But then again, you may go and do some googling and just throw that back at me. Something has to be said for the fact that we've run a *strictly PG* furry area on here for 3 years, and it's remained popular. To many folks, it's their primary gathering spot. And a lot of regulars like it just for the fact that there -are- no sexual overtones.

As for 'searching the web for proof', you can find Who's The Boss porn if you look hard enough. (actually you don't have to look very hard.) Saying "I found porn relating to XYZ on the internet!" is really not irrefutable proof that XYZ is inseperably bound to porn.

If that was true, I'm not sure what -wouldn't- be considered having 'roots in perversion' these days.

Really. Very few furries you'd meet around SL are even a little bit into "rescue rangers porn."

"Googling for proof" is a lot easier than actually getting to know people on SL. If you don't want to get to know anyone in a certain category, that's certainly your right.

But you really can't profess to know all about them, and what their motivations are, if you don't.

You are right, really. I was just making an example of one of the ways "furries have harmed me". Most furry art doesn't involve licensed characters. And you are correct that if you look hard enough, you can find porn for about anything. The truth is however, is that a large percentage of furry art involves porn, and is ever growing. As of the last 15 or years or so {as far as I can tell from sites I've read}, furry art as grown more and more perverse, 2000-now seeing the biggest increase.

But then there are groups like yours, which sadly are the minority. If most furries were like those in your group, furries wouldn't have such a negative name attached to them. They would be in the same league as starwars geeks, instead of being compared to not so desirable groups by the public.

Yes the fact is kids that liked furry and cartoons are now grown up and want something that matches their age, even if it is non consensual, and new kids are getting used to this excessive show of dirtiness and behaving to follow the fashion. It is against public desires because mostly of us want it to be private and not banal.

Drawing and sharing got alot easier today, it means we can see everything everyone makes easier than before, blame media, internet.

You can see archives of things past (easier to archive today), so it will give a fake impression that there is a lot more production today than it really is, however you might be seeing repetitive items and you will think it is added to the previous memories.

PS.: by kids I mean the people that can use the internet and watch tv and it goes in the range from 4yr to 80yr. Young kids, grown kids, old boys.

More Google for evidence search phrase ideas:
Star Wars Lego Porn
Starsky and Hutch Slash
Harry Potter Porn
Spongebob Squarepants Porn (I know, horrifying.)
Star Trek Slash
Final Fantasy Porn (Would anyone like to see Cloud in drag?)

More evidence that people can be really really amus-er-sick?

~Kami, laughing at it all

Yes, I believe I mentioned this earlier!

But you missed Cardcaptor Sakura!

I dunno, a picture of a gender-swapped Sephiroth I saw once was pretty cool.

But then, he's a bishonen, you'd expect it, really.

While i cannot see tren's posts since i have him on ignore for being anti furry... I saw the quotes and heres my reply.

Tren STFU you don't know anything about my lifestyle. How dare you acuse me of being like what you described. Thats is prejudism if i ever saw it. Also globalising. It's people with a lack of acceptance like you that make SL the horrible place it's become. Yes i draw furry art, and i have drawn sexual stuff. Does any of that contain Real Life 4 leged animals? NO! Asuming i'm into those sorts of things is why i have muted you. Your obviuosly a troll who can't handle adult behavior. Feel free to flame me as much as you wan't it only proves my point.

Err, what? I said that you drawing and/or doing "adult" things with a furry puts you in the group that does adult things with a furry, which is oddly something you deny being a part of yet admit doing. I wasn't flaming you before, or ever really.

Edit: Can you seriously not see what you are saying? "Don't put me in the same group as the furry perverts just because I draw sexual furry stuff and have sex with furries!"

Alright Listen up and take your earplugs out. What yiffy is trying to say is She isn't into the perverted yiff stuff your trying to blame her on. I know yiffy and i was her boyfriend at a time. She is hardly ever sexual. Shes a nice furry though. Calling her a Furvert is like Calling George Bush a Genius. Also as people have quoted above, You have stated that yiffy draws furry art. It's easy to find it just visit her website.

If being a artist makes you a pervert then that meens picaso is a nut job. I guess since i make sonic type avatars that makes me wana have sex with them? O.o I've never given it a thought.

Yiffy is female?

Maybe this is a logical fallacy but take out references to 'furry' and you get:

"Don't put me in the same group as perverts just because I draw sexual stuff and have sex."

At the opposite end of the amusing cale try swapping furry with teddy bears or broccoli. The sky's the limit.

~Kami, still laughing

Believe it's a Furry.

If Picasso drew erect penii, the he probably would of been considered perverted. The point I was making was that she can't pin the blame on a certain group of furries, even though she herself induldges in the same behavior. Like it or not, she became part of the furries that drew cocks on dogs when she went and drew a cock on a dog.

Yes.. yes i am. Always have been. O.o

Thank you frost. I would also like to note one thing about frost. He dated a FEMALE FURRY. So hes not Gay. Hes actually bi though. But that should be irelivant anyway. I'm just stating facts to prove the oposit of what the trolls are trying to feed you all.

I prefer this one. Satire, but not so much blatant flame bait.