How rude can someone be?

The vehicle is now gone(much thanks to the Linden that helped me), but a similar occurrence happened to me when I was helping a newbie to learn how to build, and he left his couch right in front of my place for a few weeks. I asked live help if there was a way to get someone to move it for me, but the person said that ONLY the landowner can return the objects. Just got conflicting information, thus led to me giving an exasperated bribe to move the damn vehicle of the second person in question. The thing that bothered me the most was the person didn't care one way or another, UNTIL I offered the bribe.

Oh well, live and learn, I'm still less than a year old. I'm over it, gotta work on selling more, that's all. Kharma gets people in the end right?

This corner seems to accumulate even more garbage because there is an Academy of Second Learning right close to it. One day I logged on to find 3 vehicles stuck in that same corner. The first two people gladly logged on quickly and took them. The last person, created my ordeal.

-Cheers!

There seems to be more to this story, what else is located around the corner of those four sims?

I thought this thread was going to be a contest.

Judging from his post, I'd say his house.

Very funny, a house on land he does not own or seem to be able to contact the owner of the land. It is all very strange.

I believe the person stated that the owner of the land, who had a house on his land, is currently on "vacation" and is unable to attend to any "litter" on the property.

for those not getting what i said -.-

no the owner is gone and the stuff there he can't send back since he doesn't own the land.

I can not find this message. I have my own thoughts but am keeping them to myself until this person answers. This whole thread is so strange.

I can not find this message. I have my own thoughts but am keeping them to myself until this person answers. This whole thread is so strange.

This is more of a rant than anything else.
Here's the scenario.

Abandoned vehicle stuck at the corner of 4 sims, somehow they all gravitate towards this spot for some reason... sticking out of my house, and generally unpleasant looking. This isn't the first time this has happened, but people are nice and come get their crap quickly.
I do not own the land it's on, and the owner of the land has their account on hold. I have politely messaged said person to come and grab their vehicle off my land several times without any response.

Reply #1 - maybe a month into this annoyance
"just return object to me"
-Launch into complicated reason that I cannot and that they have to come and get it.

Wait another month.

Finally, I say... can you come and get it, hell I'll give you $500L to come and get it.

Pretty soon, I get messages, "teleport me", "where are you", even though I gave them exact locations of the sims. Finally they and I are on at the same time, so I teleport said person. They come and get the vehicle, and this is what they say...

"ok i moved it, give me my $500 bones f*cker"

I said, "Why are you being so rude, it's not my fault that you leave your garbage lying around. This isn't my problem."

-Said person launches into hostility mode, "you liar", "this isn't how you should do business with people", "i don't deal with liars", "if you won't pay, i'm putting it back", and begins rezzing every vehicle they have in their inventory back to the same location.

Fine, I'll cave to this ass... gift $500L of my EARNED money to person, and tell them thanks for being such a bitch, move your crap. Vehicles disappear, and poof, they are gone. One minute later, I get the message to grab newly placed objects as they will be returned due to rollback from patch. D'OH. I was about to orbit them, but I like to keep my record clear of ARs, because I'm sure they would file one.

Sorry long story, had to rant somewhere while the grid is still down. Peace.


*** GOD DAMN IT. Just logged on, and the rollback put the vehicle right back there. This is getting annoying. I don't want to go through this again, there has to be a way to remove this damn thing.

I can not find this message. I have my own thoughts but am keeping them to myself until this person answers. This whole thread is so strange.

I do not own the land it's on, and the owner of the land has their account on hold.

You mean this part? Is the owner on vacation? Did the owner pay for a year membership and then leave SL not bothering to log back on? This is not a lot of infomation. Tek made this thread and I am interested in "the rest of the story".

Now that I reread what you typed I see what you are getting at. You are wondering if the owner is truly out of pocket and what the heck is going on. But is there any reason to doubt this person, do you perhaps know the person that left their vehicles there or demanded the lindens?


which if i knew this worked i would have so done it.. heh

Who is this resident to you? Tek made this thread and thus made the whole story a public and not private story.

Ok here's the scoop.

The land I'm using is owned by one of the people that were involved in that huge land scandal where they bought sims for $1 each. I still am in contact with them and they don't care that I am using their land, but since they are still banned from SL they cannot log on and manage their land. It's kind of complicated. Since the vehicle is usually straddling 4 sims, I don't think anyone but a Linden can return it, but I could be wrong.
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If you have any other questions, go ahead and ask and I'll try and clear them up.

Our group land is along a sim border, a river, and a road. Consequently, we see a fair amount of crashed vehicles – which often ends up on our neighbors land, but partially overlaps onto our own. When this happens, we are unable to remove the objects ourselves.

We are also unable to contact the owner of the land where some vehicles have crashed. Adjoining our property is a large plot whose owner – according to his profile under Groups/Officer of …/Members – has not logged into SL since November 2004. In the past 20 months we have never met the land owner, and have never been successful in contacting him by IM on other varied matters.

The opening parts of the original post are not atypical of the runaround we’ve often faced in getting vehicle owners to come for retrieval. The consequences of the last crash we saw took a total of four IMs along with coordinates or landmarks, plus an AR, over the course of three weeks before the object was removed by it's owner.

I suspect the inclination to press for a back-story to the OP -- which has dominated this thread and distracted us from the initial question -- comes from disbelief that such a simple issue might require vast efforts to resolve. The OP is entirely credible to me because our group faces similar situations with increasing frequency.

The central issue here is that it is a matter of simple courtesy for people to promptly pick up their toys when they encroach upon someone’s land and cannot be policed up by the property owner.

Speaking as someone who once shared her living room with an airplane wing for five weeks, I’m of the opinion that it should not require repeated requests, lengthy explanations, or Linden intervention to administer the 90 second job of TPing to a place, right-clicking on an object, and selecting “take.”

Most flyers I have encountered have lost a vehicle at some point with no idea where it was lost. And most of them are more than willing to come remove it in my experience. Its a shame when a few bad apples make life rough on so many folks becuase as a rule flyers are great about dealing with such things (IMO).