30 minute log out when not at computer

sometimes i leave sl on when i go for something to eat, or maybe a bath or whatever, only when i return i have this logged out because ive been away for 30 mins, it can be a bit anoying when you have everything set up in sl and then you have to do it again because you have been logged out, can this be changed?.....

Nope. The 30min kick is server-side.

Just wear one of the many available anti-idle prims or if you can afford it get God Mode.

If you paid for it... you got ripped off. There is a free god mode from what I have been told, as much as I hate to advertise for them, but it's better than letting people get ripped off.

Ack yet god mode will keep you logged in. I have been idle for less than 10 minutes and it seems to freeze the client. Maybe its just me but......

Then stick to anti-idle prims, or maybe even set a brick on your keyboard

Why would you want to stay logged in for that long if you aren't actually at the computer anyway?

For most of us outside the US, we don't have unlimited broadband; we pay for a monthly bandwidth allowance (mine is 30gb, which is the top package on my ISP), and if you go seriously over that you get charged extra.

Just imagine forgetting to log out, then finding yourself with a nice hefty bill at the end of the month because of it.

Not to mention that, you are using up Linden Lab bandwidth, and costing them money for something that you needn't be, if you are in fact paying for it in the first place (can't check whether you have payment details or are a free unverified account at the moment).

Don't forget, of course, that avatars are limited per region, so you could be preventing an active player from getting somewhere they want to simply because you happened to be stuck there unattended - plus, of course, you might well be causing lag.

Essentially, it's for everyone's benefit including yours.

Lewis

*sets watch*

I do agre with Lewis. Best to not be idle in SL if you can help it. Though I do understand there are times when being online is needed, while your presence at the keyboard isn't. Like stated, use the anti-idle programs/items for sale thoughout the world. Use with thought of the grid and your fellow Residents, though.

~Jessy

Bandwidth does not cost Linden labs money. There is a cost, but the cost is to the network itself. Plus, if you're just sitting there, why would it be using any bandwidth anyway? If there's nothing to load, there's nothing to download.

What about those people who own shops and are online all the time just to provide customer service, but they don't sit in front of the computer the whole time. They just wait for someone to contact them so that they CAN be available. Then it doesn't take a minute or two to log on.

If the bandwidth is too high, I'm pretty sure the service will charge LL more. And I'm betitng that charge will trickle down to all of us in one way or another. You're SL program is jsut a viewer. That means you are constantly uploadling/downloading data, even if just standing there.

There are ways to communicate while offline to inworld. Many buisness owners do this. You send an IM which goes to thier 3rd party program (not sure, but I believe YIM supports such) and they inturn send a message which appears as an IM to those inworld. That way they only need to log in for "physical" customer care.

~Jessy

Incorrect Assumptions: You ARE potentially using bandwidth as long as you are logged in. All it takes is the environment to change while logged in.

And for the record, staying logged in because it's 'inconventient' to reset a few windows while you are away 'taking a bath' does not seem to be a valid reason to do it.

So log out, take your bath, and log in. It's not going to take you THAT long to setup.

I had that, I purchased a neat wolf decoration to hang on my wall and didn't realize it was turned backwards for some reason, so I thought I spent $40 on a brown 1 prim square block. I recieved a message about 20 minutes later advising me to try turning it around and it worked, it was obviously seen offline and replied offline of the sl grid, I thought it was pretty nifty!

Bravo Lewis, you said it very well. Just sign back in when you come back. I don't understand why so many people want to be in-world zombies.

Customer and employee service my man. I am the lead DJ at a club and unlike the some of the previous lead DJ's I want to be able to respond to questions and concerns.



Very valid point except the lag. This is why I go to my house and take of space there.


To reply to the post about the me getting a anti idler...I have one and dont like using it cause the one I recieved make me appear as if I am fall down drunk! Plus I allready paid for god mode, was hoping somebody had the same thing happen and could tell me what they did to fix it. BTW this only happened since the new fix came out.

I can think of one reason, for newbies especially with no linden to speak of, to want to stay logged in long periods of time. I've seen examples of this at almost every major casino/mall/club.

Just a thought.
jes

If they are logged in and not at their computer and someone IM's them, the customer will not get an answer until they happen to come back to their computer. The costumer will see them logged in and will probably get more ticked off due to the no respnose. If they are logged off, the customer will get the not on line notice and their PM will go to their RL email and they will have an email notification. If they are logged on, get a PM and then their computer crashes, they won't get notified. Staying logged on while away from the computer gives very poor customer service.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Email to IM is a valuable tool for providing good service. I provide support to my clients from work, since you can reply by email and it gets to the client in IM. Beautiful thing it is.

If it's server-side then how come godmode can disable it? Godmode only hacks the client. O.o

Also Lewis is kinda right about the bandwidth thing. I usually only leave SL running if I'm really at my computer but not touching it. If i'm watching TV and still wish to observe something in SL. If i'm about to take a shower, i turn it off.

Yes, but it's the client that either does something, or does not do something, that alerts the server to the status of the user. I can imagine that God Mode would have the client ping the server at regular intervals to simulate user activity .. though there are many other possiblities.

The 30 minute idle built into SL triggers the "away" animation, and then logs you out after X number of minutes from when the animation starts.

Such could be countered with an external application which takes control of the mouse cursor and moves it, or some other similar interaction.

Or, the anti-idlers which detect the active animation and fires off llStopAnimation to disable the idleness of your av.

What about all the happy "campers", sitting in the camping chairs, earning L$ while sleeping?

"Earning" implies that they deserver the cash from doing some sort of work. It's more like collecting.

Happy? For who?

The owners of the zombies who are earning mere pennies per hour, which has been calculated to be the equivalent of the electricity consumed (which someone somewhere pays for even if you don't individually)?

Those with properties in the regions full of campers who can't even get onto their own land because of a club full of campers, and their land made worthless so they can't even move?

Those who can get into their region but can hardly do anything because of the lag caused by the campers?

The owners of quality places who can't get anywhere on the popularity list, being overtaken by box-like properties full of zombies who are only there because they are bribing people to visit, and making themselves artificially look popular?

Newbies soon realise very quickly that camping/dance pads are not the way to make money, and move on to better things. We need to organise a campaign so that there are people at the welcome area to help educate newcomers against this scourge on Second Life which encourages the 'welfare state' mentality.

I still refuse to accept that someone paying $50 a month for internet accss on a $1000 computer to play Second Life can't afford $5 every now and then to obtain some play money.

Lewis