The 1L Freebie!
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Elinea Richard
Owner of 7th Heaven
Join date: 23 Oct 2005
Posts: 123
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08-09-2006 10:38
From the makers of "An Escort is a Prostitute" comes "The 1L Freebie"
Does anyone really know when a something that was 1 linden became a freebie. Ok I get that most ppl have at least 1 Linden to spare but for the sake of boredom doing something to make time go faster while we wait for the grid to go up...a freebie is something that is free right? So how is something that costs 1 linden a freebie?
And before you complain about the pointlessness of this post, its the Linden's fault not mine...if the sooner the grid goes back up the sooner my boredom goes away.
And yes I have a life but I dont leave for college until the 13th so between now and then I dont really have anything better to do.
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Dismay Wilde
Bleed Designs Owner
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,771
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08-09-2006 10:40
I think... people get them to pay them $1 so they can keep track of who buys what..even though if you go to the main website under My Account-> Transaction it says who buys products for $0. I know my freebies I have set out at newbie center are $0 and I keep track thru my Transaction page 
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Zoe Llewelyn
Asylum Inmate
Join date: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 502
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08-09-2006 10:42
My freebies are 0L, but I sell demos for 1L.
As far as I know, the practice started so freebie makers could track how many freebies they were giving away...since under the old system 0L transactions didn't register at all and couldn't be tracked.
I know I am very happy to now be able to track the number of people who grab one of my freebies. The number turns out to be much higher than I ever expected it was before they let us track 0L transactions.
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Mojavewolfpup Hearn
Registered User
Join date: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 46
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08-09-2006 10:42
the word "freebie" is the bait to get the people into the area, and the $1 linden is the hook. disappointment at it not being free gives way to "wow, look at all this stuff in the box for $1.00! I can't go wrong, it would cost me thousands of dollars to buy it all seperately!" if 100,000 people show up and 60,000 walk away from it going "false advertising! not buying that on principle!" you have 40,000 others paying a buck a pop for it, not a bad profit 
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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08-09-2006 10:43
It's a leftover - used to be a 0L$ sale wouldn't show up on your transactions, so to keep track of the popularity of free items, they went for 1L$. I've a gob like that, I've just been too frelling lazy to change 'em to 0$L now that those show on the transaction page.
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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08-09-2006 10:43
Another reason some people may charge 1L$, think of Yadni's. He sells boxes of dozens upon dozens of items for 1L$ for the entire box and he has land tier and other expenses to pay for. Given the amount of items a person gets in a box, I think it's reasonable to charge 1L$ for it to help offset expenses.
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Savonah Madonna
Registered User
Join date: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 168
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08-09-2006 10:45
From: Elinea Richard From the makers of "An Escort is a Prostitute" comes "The 1L Freebie" ROFLMAO [edit: Ok to answer the questions. It seems there is a bug in second life that if you have an item at L$0 the permissions change on the item being sold. What this change is I am not exactly sure. It could be that it makes the item inside copy/mod/transfer (full permissions) or may also change something with full permissions to nocopy/nomod/transfer, etc. I'm not positive but I did hear there is a bug that crops up with the L$0 setting and permissions.]
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Elinea Richard
Owner of 7th Heaven
Join date: 23 Oct 2005
Posts: 123
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08-09-2006 10:45
From: Mojavewolfpup Hearn the word "freebie" is the bait to get the people into the area, and the $1 linden is the hook. disappointment at it not being free gives way to "wow, look at all this stuff in the box for $1.00! I can't go wrong, it would cost me thousands of dollars to buy it all seperately!" if 100,000 people show up and 60,000 walk away from it going "false advertising! not buying that on principle!" you have 40,000 others paying a buck a pop for it, not a bad profit  ...MY GOD THATS BRILLIANT!
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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08-09-2006 10:45
True, the L$1 is cheap, and nothing to complain about... Claiming it's "free" is nothing short of a lie.
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Eryn Curie
Lost in the fog
Join date: 24 May 2004
Posts: 205
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08-09-2006 10:46
Yes, before the changes which now list zero-linden transactions in one's transaction history, the only way one could keep track of who is buying their freebies was to put them for sale for one linden, thereby ensuring the transactions would show up on the list. All the freebies I give out have been adjusted to zero now that freebie transactions show up. 
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Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
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08-09-2006 10:47
From: Elinea Richard Does anyone really know when a something that was 1 linden became a freebie. 1 L$ costs about 1/3 of 1 US cent. Pretty close to free.
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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08-09-2006 10:47
From: Mojavewolfpup Hearn if 100,000 people show up and 60,000 walk away from it going "false advertising! not buying that on principle!" you have 40,000 others paying a buck a pop for it, not a bad profit Ummm no one is getting 100,000, 60,000, or even 40,000 people on their land anywhere. Think of it more like 100 people show up, 60 people walk away, 40 people paying for it and no profit but maybe if it happens enough times you can offset some tier expenses.
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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08-09-2006 10:49
From: Annah Zamboni 1 L$ costs about 1/3 of 1 US cent. Pretty close to free. Sure if you're used to currencies like the dollar, euro etc... but what if you are from a country where 1 cent is something like a 1000 of your currency? Then it's not free, is it?
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Elinea Richard
Owner of 7th Heaven
Join date: 23 Oct 2005
Posts: 123
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08-09-2006 10:50
From: Allana Dion Ummm no one is getting 100,000, 60,000, or even 40,000 people on their land anywhere. Think of it more like 100 people show up, 60 people walk away, 40 people paying for it and no profit but maybe if it happens enough times you can offset some tier expenses. Those poor saps that spend all that time making clothes...all they need to do is rename the freebies that are there and set them out...all the teens on the Main Grid will be all over them...it cant fail!!!
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Macphisto Angelus
JAFO
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
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08-09-2006 10:51
From: Allana Dion Another reason some people may charge 1L$, think of Yadni's. He sells boxes of dozens upon dozens of items for 1L$ for the entire box and he has land tier and other expenses to pay for. Given the amount of items a person gets in a box, I think it's reasonable to charge 1L$ for it to help offset expenses. This is how I feel too. I don't see the $1L as a price for the freebies themselves, but for the time it took the person to compile them. land fees, etc. It is like when someone puts a public domain script in an item they build. They are not charging for the script, but the build and the time they put into it. I notice Yadni doesnt charge anything at all for the new adds. Just the older stuff that he took the time to compile into boxes and put out.
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 1,492
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08-09-2006 10:51
thats it! im so tired of freebie threads!!!
ok, had to make fun of myself.. carry on.. -.-
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Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
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08-09-2006 10:52
From: Siobhan Taylor Sure if you're used to currencies like the dollar, euro etc... but what if you are from a country where 1 cent is something like a 1000 of your currency? Then it's not free, is it? Depends. Is 1000 of my currency worth anything to me? Just because its 1000 of my currency doesnt mean its worth jack to me. There are countries where they need suitcases to carry around $20.
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Ricky Zamboni
Private citizen
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,080
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08-09-2006 10:57
From: Allana Dion Another reason some people may charge 1L$, think of Yadni's. He sells boxes of dozens upon dozens of items for 1L$ for the entire box and he has land tier and other expenses to pay for. Given the amount of items a person gets in a box, I think it's reasonable to charge 1L$ for it to help offset expenses. If it's cool for YadNi to sell a box of free items for L$1, then how about charging L$10 for the same box? If I only get 1/10th of YadNi's traffic, it's not unreasonable of me to charge that in order to cover my tier. And, if I only expect to get 1/100th of YadNi's traffic, then people shouldn't gripe if I charge L$100 for a box of free items. And if I only expect to get a couple of people a month, then why not charge L$2,000 for a box of free items? After all, I only want to cover my expenses. And, hey, nobody really wants all the crap in one of those boxes. Why not unbundle them and sell them individually? How about a price of, say, L$100 per item. Again, just so I can cover my own costs. Congratulations! You've just given a greenlight to freebie reselling! 
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Zoe Llewelyn
Asylum Inmate
Join date: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 502
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08-09-2006 11:01
From: Ricky Zamboni If it's cool for YadNi to sell a box of free items for L$1, then how about charging L$10 for the same box? If I only get 1/10th of YadNi's traffic, it's not unreasonable of me to charge that in order to cover my tier. And, if I only expect to get 1/100th of YadNi's traffic, then people shouldn't gripe if I charge L$100 for a box of free items. And if I only expect to get a couple of people a month, then why not charge L$2,000 for a box of free items? After all, I only want to cover my expenses. And, hey, nobody really wants all the crap in one of those boxes. Why not unbundle them and sell them individually? How about a price of, say, L$100 per item. Again, just so I can cover my own costs. Congratulations! You've just given a greenlight to freebie reselling!  None of which applies if you are only offering or selling freebies you made yourself. Not every place that offers freebies sells other people's freebies, even for 1L. Some of us stick to our own work alone.
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Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
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08-09-2006 11:03
From: Ricky Zamboni If it's cool for YadNi to sell a box of free items for L$1, then how about charging L$10 for the same box? If I only get 1/10th of YadNi's traffic, it's not unreasonable of me to charge that in order to cover my tier. It is unreasonable. If your entire income and support for tier is reselling freebies then sell your land and drop the teir.
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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08-09-2006 11:03
From: Ricky Zamboni If it's cool for YadNi to sell a box of free items for L$1, then how about charging L$10 for the same box? If I only get 1/10th of YadNi's traffic, it's not unreasonable of me to charge that in order to cover my tier. And, if I only expect to get 1/100th of YadNi's traffic, then people shouldn't gripe if I charge L$100 for a box of free items. And if I only expect to get a couple of people a month, then why not charge L$2,000 for a box of free items? After all, I only want to cover my expenses. And, hey, nobody really wants all the crap in one of those boxes. Why not unbundle them and sell them individually? How about a price of, say, L$100 per item. Again, just so I can cover my own costs. Congratulations! You've just given a greenlight to freebie reselling!  I'm way too tired to try to explain why thats not even close to what I said, forget it. When I gave Yadni a big box of my older designs to give away and he set it up with a display and pictures and charged 1L$ for the whole box, I was perfectly fine with that and knew in advance. When a certain person took ONE dress out of that box and set up a display in her store and sold it for 125L$, I was not fine with it. If you can't see the difference I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.
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Ricky Zamboni
Private citizen
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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08-09-2006 11:14
From: Allana Dion I'm way too tired to try to explain why thats not even close to what I said, forget it. What you said is: From: Allana Dion Another reason some people may charge 1L$, think of Yadni's. He sells boxes of dozens upon dozens of items for 1L$ for the entire box and he has land tier and other expenses to pay for. Given the amount of items a person gets in a box, I think it's reasonable to charge 1L$ for it to help offset expenses. To me, that implies you think it's fine for someone to resell free items in order to cover their expenses. From: Allana Dion When I gave Yadni a big box of my older designs to give away and he set it up with a display and pictures and charged 1L$ for the whole box, I was perfectly fine with that and knew in advance.
When a certain person took ONE dress out of that box and set up a display in her store and sold it for 125L$, I was not fine with it. If you can't see the difference I'm not going to bother to explain it to you. So, it's a matter of degree, is it? If a person is making L$20,000 per month reselling your free items, why do you care whether they're sold as a giant bundle or one at a time?
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Addison White
Just call me Assi!
Join date: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 127
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08-09-2006 11:15
I know that at my store I have my "Freebie" boxes filled for 1l and the reason that changed was of the resellers stacking up my so called freebies for amazingly high prices and doing the 1l kept track of them for me in world. Yes, I know I can see the 0 on transactions, but sometimes the website does not pull up for me or it takes ages...so it's easier for the 1l. But..for the 1l yes I do pack several different boxes FULL of stuff..that I have made, and not some freebie knock offs. I've had to cut down almost all permissions on those items b/c of the resellers market and always getting Im'd to fix something that a person bought at a yard sale and the "seller" screwed it up..
Long story short, I've never heard anyone complain about the quality of items they get in a box of mine for only 1l. Most understand why it's that way... and seriously, it's only 1l. It's not some "Bait" line to get them in the store...if I used bait, I advertise the 20l flexi dresses I have at my store, that ARE 20l flexi dresses for sale. I have no reason to make up "fake freebies" to get people to visit my place.
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Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
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08-09-2006 11:17
From: Addison White I know that at my store I have my "Freebie" boxes filled for 1l and the reason that changed was of the resellers stacking up my so called freebies for amazingly high prices and doing the 1l kept track of them for me in world. Yes, I know I can see the 0 on transactions, but sometimes the website does not pull up for me or it takes ages...so it's easier for the 1l. For this and this reason only, a 1 L$ price should not be frowned upon.
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Venus Vaughan
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Join date: 3 Dec 2005
Posts: 66
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08-09-2006 11:21
With YadNi's Place and the Mantabian place (I think that how you spell it )? they advertise not all freebies ...
But when i go to a Store - or a desiner who are saying they are giving away freebees ,then when i get there , find out its not free it like from 1l -10l for this so called free bee --- I think about the Integerity of the person , and how honest they are ? Makes me feel that Hey! if they are going to be dishonest .. Then how much are they over changing for there stuff they make in the stores . I go around to see simular items Priced way less -- So thinking ok ! That designer has now made my black list and i won't Contuct or buy any of there Products .... Simplie as that ... Just to your rescearch just like with every thing else ....
Iwont buy a anything before this ... it's all about Honesty!
Got rip off ppl where ever you go !
V-girl
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