NO SHAKING HANDS—gaping holes and missing the obvious in SL

An ingame catalogue system, think like ebay stores where everything is buy it now. Clashes with SLboutique and SLexchange unfortunately but it's really difficult for anyone small to have anything bought right now as specific product searches don't really work and you have to go everywhere to look around.

Classifieds is like a bandaid for a missing arm.

- Mid-length and full-length dresses (wedding gowns and Elizabethan hoop-skirts don't count)
- Ability to selectively 'hide' from people on one's friends list (persistent across restarts), because sometimes you just don't feel like listening about how so-and-so is afraid to hurt so-and-so's virtual feelings
- Ability to filter friends list so it only shows online friends
- Ability to permanently disable Fog and Clouds (persistent across restarts), the Debug menu is too much to explain to newbies every day
- Ability to search Notecards by content instead of just by name (is this already possible?)
- Ability to rename no-modify items so you can properly organize your wardrobe
- Ability to open a box without having to drag it to the damn floor

If any of these things are already there, please please PLEASE correct my ignorance. But be nice about it, 'kay? Muah!

One simple thing that's driven me nuts several times in the past:

Why doesn't the right click menu work in mouselook mode? It's annoying to be navigating through some cramped space and want to pull up the menu on an object, but you can't because you're in mouselook, so you drop out of mouselook and the camera instantly clips through several other prims and you can't see the object you wanted in the first place.

Also, the camera controls can be needlessly complicated at times. Why can't I hit a key and just use the regular avatar controls to fly the camera around? Why do I have to have it anchored on some object?

Anime companies are historically very tolerant, even permissive, of fan-derived works such as cosplay.

Ah, Julian, one reason certainly is because of exponential growth over the last stretch of months--it's nice to see those changes. What I said is no longer true, I'm happy about this!

Altho, I'd like to see more SL-created anime content where I may initially think it's a preexisting creation, but no, it's just that good.

So many nice ideas here...

YES!

Also I agree with built in animation override.

Why the heck is this still broke'd?


CS just saved me alot of typing.


This idea wins alot.

I'm not gonna quote what Dianne just said on page 2, but she's right. For a social game, SL avatars are very zombie-like. Some very basic interactions should be built in, for example, that handshake. Granted, certain interactions are possible through the use of gestures, and I often use them, but they are, at best, clunky to use. Setting them up and using them is akward enough that most people just don't. Would be nice to get something more than a blank stare out of new people I meet and some text. Think of perhaps a default way to greet people not on your Friends list, people on your friends list, and those on your ignore list that triggers automatically when you meet them for the first time since your last login. It's a stretch, but it would be really neat.


LOL!!! ... -_-


god please... *tears up* ;_;


Okay, this is just dreaming on my part, cuz of LL's track record (zing ), but have any of you played Half Life 2? I recall just walking around and watching people, most noteably their faces. The level of expressiveness on an unimportant character in the game blew my mind. Looking at one of the faces of the people at the beginning of the game, you could see sadness, loneliness, fear, and that was just an idle state of their face, when they talk to you its even more amazing. I know, again, its just wishful thinking, but, having a facial "mood" set you could choose from would be awesome. Say there was a "depressed" mood set. If you used a smile anim while your face was showing depression, it would look half-hearted.


... that's actually a *really* good idea. Yeah, it'll be used in less-than-upstanding ways, but, that handshake anim would become possible, and doable by people that are not scripting geniuses. Attach the two hands together, and animate one of the two avatar's arms, for example. More wishful thinking, I guess.


About that... there REALLY needs to be a way for a script to get the scale, rotation, and position of attached objects... really really really really needs to be a way. Think of all them giant mech avs. They could have *real* moving parts based on avatar movements, just scale up the positions on the floating parts. Not gonna go into all the other possible uses, but yeah, it'd be really freaking nice.


Yarrrr, ground vehicles are pretty useless right now, would be nice if they weren't. Flying vehicles work pretty well, they tend to freak out on low-altitude sim-crossing though, so I don't use them below 1,000 meters. I've noticed a trend moving towards flying vehicles that move non-physically. This is a response to two issues I believe: 1. As stated, vehicles that use physics are so unstable to the point where they are mostly useless. 2. 31 prims is a pretty crappy limit to make something that should be visually interesting, and may require extra prims for invisible things, like particle emission points (though I understand that increasing the linked prims in a physical object would only make the instability issue even worse, which is why we've been begging for Havoc 2, or Havoc 3, so I hear).

And now for some ideas of my own! One thing I think SL sorely lacks is the ability to do "only-manual" things with scripts, for example, wearing clothing. Would be quite nifty to click on a dresser, get a dialog with a list of clothing its got in inventory, click on one piece of clothing, and have worn on your avatar in the same motion. Say somethine like llDressAvatar(key avatar, string clothing), and it uses clothing from the object's contents (I assume you'd need copy permissions on that clothing).

There are many, many manual-only things that should be able to be done with scripts. One that is badly needed that comes to mind is being able to "drop" attachments on the ground with a script call instead of detaching into inventory. When I first started scripting, I just assumed you would be able to do this, and kinda did a double-take when I saw you couldn't.

Anyway! Enough outta me. And quite frankly, I'll be suprised if anyone reads my post. Adios!

mew,
Ani

I'd honestly rather see more bugs fixed than adding more bloody widgets.

>_>

<_<

Me too.

But. The thread is about new features that Torley'd like to hear about, so, might as well add in that direction. But yah, I'm with you, if getting the long list of bugs fixed means no new doodads for a while, I'm for that.

mew,
Ani

My mouth moving when I talk. Right now I have a script that *almost* does this. However everyone around me being a mime is kind of creepy.

I actually thought the characters in HL2 looked creepy. They're actually creepier looking than the zombies in SL or HL1.

Hell, I'd like to be able to bend my avatar's limbs in animations just a little, maybe have a call to modify an animation to move a joint to a prim identified by key. That would work without having to have the server know about it... it'd be like particles.

That way I could have the "sit" animation put my hands on my knees instead of having them floating in the air above them.

llSetAnimationParameters(string anim_name, list params);
ANIM_TARGET_OBJECT,integer joint_number,key target_object
ANIM_TARGET_JOINT,integer joint_number,integer target_joint
ANIM_IGNORE_JOINT,integer joint_number
ANIM_PRIORITY,integer priority
ANIM_SPEED,integer multiplier
ANIM_NEXT_ANIM,string next_animation

This would need client-side scripting. Things like the "manual stuff" you talk about might have to be client side as well. And for obvious reasons client-side scripts should be sandboxed *and* user-auditable.

Heya!

1.9 actually seems to make vehicles behave a lot better. Where the train that runs from Olive to Purple used to go underground for about 5 seconds at each sim border, it now just does a small "hop" at sim borders.

Facial expressions... check out Siggy's Mood HUD here:
http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?p=buy&itemid=33349

Built in video capture does exist (under file) but FRAPS works better, as mentioned above.

Damien and Washu experimented with making hair that was a mix between prims and a particle system, but as I recall, if never really took off. I believe it was called Mirada GoHair - hair that moves with you.

Regards,

-Flip

[FOLLOWUP] It's literally getting nearer!



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YAYZERAMA!!!

All I can say is WOW. The stuff I could make with these capabilities are endless!!

Of course I hope all animators like myself see what I just read....in world Poser coming soon...can we raise a fuss like GOM?

Traditionally, the Handshake is a Method for disabling the weapon Hand of anyone you are meeting. (Beware of Southpaws. Lol) Personally, I prefer the Bow or the Hug. Greetings with a less sinister connotation.

Angel.

Cool beans..


Heres my list of goodness:
* Prevent rendering of other plots(client side) -- why render the 10 trillion prim build of the garbage can next door.

* Privacy options(apear offline, etc)

* Physics. (don't kill me) havok 2/3 so we can add back the good stuff, Hinges, and scriptable motors. I was listening to the town hall today and totally forgot about motors, they were super fun. (for those who dont know, making a car with actual physical spining wheels that are'nt just for looks! -- It would be super awsome if real physical cars/objects could be made)

* Performance enhancments -- General optimizations and some in the way of more graphics controls. Like adjustable min and max detail. Also adjustable tessilation(lighting) so slow videocards can have faster(but crapy lighting) or even higher quality. Also a way to disable lighting altogether, and in the progess remove all unnecessary lighting related tessilation(for the ultra slow videocards )

* Super-far-fetched. This one is hard to do, It may require DirectX 10(SL uses OpenGL, I know) But.. part of DX10 cards is the geometry shader unit... Imagine the prims being created on the card itself.. The routines for creating prims could be on the card and would be uber-cool. For those who have no idea, Think more FPS. (And I know, I dont even own a DX10 card, lol -- Like I said, far-feched)

* Graphics.. Maybe add a layer map to prims for use in lightmaps. Why use huges textures for each surface when a low res one will do? Also could take advantage on multi-texturing so theres not a huge performace penalty(of couse client side disableable.). Ability to use animated particles. much awsomeness ability there. -- Other things too, I can't think of right now.

* Avarar, hmm. Philip already mentioned more layers were going to come anyway, but need that(I don't even have a skin, but some people want it, lol). Physical avatars sound neato.

* Scripting, speed. I hear talk of Mono, but not much of what the benifits are. But It would be nice if scripts used less CPU time on the server. Plus more things like arrays, writing to notecard, or some other storage system.


Ok, ill stop there. All of these are linden things I know, sorry.
But If it were possible by rezies Id have done it myself, lol.
Cool stuff, I like all the ideas in here.

I think that SL is lacking in personal privacy. I do not like my payment info being advertised in my profile and REALLY don't like the new feature allowing people to discriminate against those who havn't paid for anything in SL or those who have chosen not to place a credit card in their file. It doesn't personally affect me I just don't think my payment status is anyone's business.

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Pancakes?