Rude newbies / fake newbies

Why not just make the sim private? This will end your newbie, griefer and alt problem.

Because I don't own all of magenta (YET!!!), and mainland sims can't be private anyway.

Well then just limit it to your group using the land controls. You can set it to group access only and add visitors as desired. If you want more "privacy" start setting up security scripts with a 6 second tp home. These actions will put a stop to those annoying newbies and others.

I actually enjoy having people drop by, my own house is open walled, I wouldn't want an indescriminate security system keeping them out. The others whom I've granted a place to live have their own homes on the plot.

As for the tools.. The tools however are woefully underpowered, access restrictions only extend so far. Plus, again, with three separate living areas, we have different people over.

You'd do a lot better with a well done scripted security orb then. The one that I have allows you to set the range it covers, to switch it from allowing all but a few banned individuals to only allowing a preset list of people, and allows anyone who's set as an authorized user, land owner or not, to quickly add someone to the ban list and send them home.

You'd do a lot better with a well done scripted security orb then. The one that I have allows you to set the range it covers, to switch it from allowing all but a few banned individuals to only allowing a preset list of people, and allows anyone who's set as an authorized user, land owner or not, to quickly add someone to the ban list and send them home.

I would be more than happy to do the same, except I cleared my inventory of all freebies that i got when I was a NOOb! Well not everything but when I signon tonight I am gonna sit at my private island and create a noob folder! I too have been on my private isalnd and had somebdoy just land there, most of the time they are confused and disoriented becasue the sim they was on crashed, and yes I was itchy to freeze and eject but I actually took the time to talk to them and gave them some of the gestures I created. Of the many times this has happened only once did the avatar appear to be a griefer, but i gave the benifit of the doubt and found out he actually was a decent person just here to have fun and kick ass!

So I say this if you dont want unwelcome people just "popping" in put out a security orb, which anybody can operate once your name is in as a operator. I suggest pykse's it fair priced and just freakin awesome! Or have your partner add you as a officer of the land group, butthe security orb is prob the best Idea.


"Maybe a wig will make their day so they can stop hustling on the grid like pimps on food stamps."

I had to quote that it made me laugh out loud and wake my kids up!!!!!!!

Why did you not spread the "love" and goodwill of second life and do it? TP them back to the welcome center. Bloody Noobs landing and bothering you. So the sim they were on just crashed but it is no excuse for landing on my island! So they will dislike you afterwards, it is not my problem is the reply.



Private Islands Sims do not need such scripts.



Why not restrict access to your island?

As a barely day-old newbie who fell in love with SL after just a few hours, I feel a need to offer my two cents on the topic, since it hits close to home. I joined SL only yesterday and was incredibly overwhelmed once I got off newbie island. I wasn't sure where to start exploring and what to do first, so I pretty much just flew around and stopped from time to time at whatever patch of land caught my view. Truthfully, I did enter a few homes without giving it a second thought. I never realized I could be considered an intruder. I ran into a few blocked properties and assumed if I could enter a property, that meant it was open for visitors. I also really wasn't even sure which establishments were private homes and which were public places, since so many of them seemed so vast in size to me I couldn't imagine they were homes, although I now know better.

If anyone had asked me to leave I would have done so immediately. I did actually get ejected from one property, but I was flying at the time and not stopping anywhere so it was a bit confusing. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes and then try and excuse it by just being new, but there IS a lot of protocol and etiquette to learn that, though I wish otherwise, doesn't reveal itself overnight.

One property I stopped at, attracted by the colors (mostly purples <3) and music, wound up being a night club that the two owners were in the process of building, -while- I was there. I apologized profusely for interrupting their work, but they were incredibly nice people and let me 'kick back' for a bit while they worked, also giving me an invitation into their group, sharing notable landmarks, and offering to share tips. I was excited by their assistance, their friendliness, and the property itself, and in retrospect probably acted like an annoying puppy leaping at their every word, haha. But as much of an idiot as I seemed, these two people extended a great deal of courtesy to me, both an intruder and a newbie. One even invited me to an event later in the evening (me, in my infinite newbie wisdom, asking "how will I get there?", ha) that was packed with people and should have probably been a good social opportunity for me, but I was a little intimidated by so many people at once and wound up not really saying or doing anything. Plus, I had no idea how to dance, literally!

But I'm really rambling now, apologies for spamming up the forum. I just had to say, newbies might behave rudely or foolishly, but it might not always be intentional. Something that seems like common sense to a veteran could be a foreign concept to someone just starting out. Please don't just grow annoyed with us and ignore us, let us know what we're doing wrong so we can learn from it. Being shown a little patience can go a long way, as can kindness leave a lasting impression. I don't know if I'd be looking so forward to getting back into my 'SL' tonight if I hadn't met those two club-owners, and I'm most appreciative that they took time away from their own activities to befriend me.

Welcome to SL, Reina! People like you are just fine. We need an influx of new people who honestly want to enjoy SL, so the metaverse here can continue to grow and expand. Like the builders of that club, if you had stopped by a build I was working on, I would also have welcomed you.

What worries me is the flood or people who are creating new accounts that they feel they can just discard at a whim, and who seem to think they have no need for good manners or civilized social conventions here. It worries me that nice people like you are going to get lumped it with those others, by people who decide their only defense against troublemakers is to assume anyone with a 'new account' *is* a troublemaker. That is not good.

Run a large club and it is mental. Known troublemakers and trolls come and dump on conversations. Are they new and don't know better or is this trouble. Before 6/6/6 tried to talk to them give them the benifit of the doubt. Now it is ban finger on the ready.

Uggggg, now there is worry all the time. On top of that are now the offers for "Protection". If we don't pay are we a target?

So what the account is banned 2 min later they back and over and over and over till all left and your store business club is messed. Add to this multiple logins on one machine and there will be denial of access as the sim is full of fluff. Not participating, not spending, and stopping ppls who do want to from entering or moving for the lag. How do you know if this person is just afk. If they fly up to 50K plus you can't even find them.

This whole change was a hasty move and only solution I see is to add a verified status and keep them off mature land and any other home owner that does not want them.

Jamie

I've had total strangers/noobs turn up on my portion of an island sim, and when asked how they found the place, they usually said "Just exploring." I'm pretty sure that most of them were not newbies.

That said, I personally don't mind when people explore my land and home. Though I really enjoy showing people around, if I'm not there, it's fine for someone to look around.

I would never enter someone else's house without first asking though. I think it's just the polite thing to do. I remember seeing this gorgeous house when I was new, and I was just dying to look inside. I never did though.

I think a good thing for genuine noobs to remember: when in doubt, just ask.

I had this happen with a person i was greeting. he tp into a home and looked aroundand asked me to join him. Well as a greeter i was to help guide this person. But as it turns out this person is nothing more then a griefter teasing and distrubing people and the mentor/greeters as well. I sure hope this losers really enjoy this kind of playing. If their rl sucks that bad to do such things then by all means do it HAHHAHA! But really they need to put a stop to the endless signup thing. SL birthday is coming and all i see between now and the 23rd is a one big ******* mess. This is a total joke letting unlimited signups. What purpose does this do for us and the LLabs.

It lets them claim to have a really large number of members, so that they can say that SL is a big game with lots of players.

It lets them claim to have a really large number of members, so that they can say that SL is a big game with lots of players.

Well Jack like all companies with stockholders...........This is very common hapenings. Who are we to say whats right and whats not. We can only voice ourselves right?!

Got the hiccups, Jack?

I don't know why these things are posting twice, but I've had a couple of posts do that recently. One thing I do know is that the ones that do it, hang absolutely *forever* (Like over five minutes.) before they actually go through.

So...I'm blaming it all on LL.

I'm somewhat of a "noob" if that means im new to this game,
Didn't bother going through orientation and just wanted to figure
everything out for myself, and there is alot to research i'll say.

I'm one of the few guilty of doing a little -too- much exploring,
meaning i walked into a few peoples houses, but most of them
were generally cool about it and i left shortly anyway after
introducing myself.

I mean damn.. Isn't this game supposed to be interactive?
All you people do is bitch about like, people bothering you..
It's a computer game! and you already sit in solitude all day
playing it.. why NOT interact with HUMANS!?

You get on your computer, and play GAMES in the GAME!?!!

This is the next step in human detachment from the world / reality.

You'd think if they wanted no one to go in they'd lock the door,
only in Holland do they leave their doors unlocked and blinds open
for everyone to see. :/

Thankfully, I have not run into anyone from this forum yet!!! ;p

ZOMG n00B!

Not all of us are extreme privacy driven. You are welcome on my land if you can find it Just dont go through locked doors.

There is a big difference between meeting someone in public, like in a club or a store and just walking into their homes and interrupting them.

Many of us use our homes in SL as a retreat from the chaos of chat spam and griefers. We retreat to our houses to build, write scripts, or just sit quietly with a couple of close friends and have private conversations. If we want to be gregarious and meet everyone who flies by, we'll go where people congregate.

It's not really a game, but it is a virtual world and in that sense the way we behave in SL reflects our real lives to some degree. That means we expect a degree of respect for our privacy, but to some people it might also mean they wouldn't respect that privacy in SL or in real life.

Anyway, what's the point of paying thousands of Lindens to buy land and build a house if we can't expect some degree of privacy from wandering visitors?

In Second Life this is how things used to be. So long as you were polite, nothing was thought of people exploring other people's houses. However, people seem to have become obsessed with secrecy since then, and unfortunately you are likely to get an unfriendly response now.

A great shame, in my opinion.

SL has gotten bigger. It used to be a small town where everyone could afford to be friendly to everyone else.

Withmore people, people have their own circles of friends and have come to view other people wandering in as an intrusion, because there are more people doing it.

It's not an obsesion with secrecy IMO, it's just that for a lot of people the house and land has become less of a showplace, and an actual home, with the idea that it's personal reserved for "family" and invited guests.

I eliminated the doors on my own house as a very clear signal that people aren't welcome without an invitation. But when I meet them on the ground, or wandering around out workshop areas, I'm generally polite and attempt to be helpful to new people, and if somene is particularly interested in the house and I'm not busy, I usually don't even mind giving tours.

The important thing though is for people to realize that I *am* doing them a favor and that they don't have a *right* to impose on my time or my space, nor do they have a right to be offended if they're hovering around my house and I ask them to leave if I *don't* feel like dealing with others.