Sl Babies... Think Before U Choose The Vendor
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Jen Moonlight
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01-14-2006 22:06
You want to experience the joy of motherhood in SL, and it gets all F'ed up because someone keeps making mistakes... over and over and OVER again???? Sad isn't it??? I encountered many problems, as I have heard many have trying to create a Second Life by adding children to the family.
My SL husband and I thought it would be a wonderful event to have babies. Something to make our relationship even more perfect, to enjoy children, yes i said children. We were expecting twins. At a whopping 3500L, which was nothing to us to be able to experience the joy in SL. Well... what we thought would be a joy... turned into a nightmare.
The "company" in SL is, well... how should I say... incompitant?? That seems like just ONE of the many terms that I could use to explain my thoughts and truths about this company. From Day one there were nothing but mistakes, and lack of communication on their end about the baby birth process. # 1 ... My Shape- I was asked to give them my shape so that they could mod it and give it back to me. I made my own shape, so I had no issue passing it over to them. They said they would have it to me w/i 24 hours. When the time came, no shape was passed. I even waited a little more, because I understood that there were many people out there wanting the same service that I was wanting. I eventually asked the female partner at this "company" about the status of my shape, since it was over 3 days late. She acted like she did not know what i was talking about. I had to resubmit my shape to them, A day had passed, when I finally got my shape... I was SO excited to begin this process. Once I put on the preggy shape, to my surprise... it wasnt me. I was about a foot shorter and looked NOTHING like me. I was livid. When msging the 2 partners (HS & MK) I got NO responses. Completely ignored. The male partner immediately logged off. Hmm.. I left a direct, but respectful offline about the mistake. Withing 24 hours I had my shape dropped into my inventory. The nightmare didnt stop there. It went on and on. Making the ultrasound appointment (where i even left work a little early to be there), Mr. MK was no where to be found. Was told by the female counterpart that "he would get to me when he had time". I was livid, once again. The next day, my hubby msged and msged. Wanting to know when we could get another appointment for the ultrasound. Finally, at HIS "convenience", Mr MK tped us to his office.
I wont go into the other "lack of follow-through" into TOO much detail. But it goes on and on, and STILL is going on! When we received the babies with the wrong clothes on that we requested on the notecards initially when we made our order. RUDE, AND DISRESPECTFUL TO THEIR CLIENTS.. is what I can say to sum up the issues. They have their money... so what do they care right?? You are needing THEIR services!
In a nutshell, these people are in a market on SL where they have a great product and they know it. They do have cute babies. However, they treat their clients poorly, and do not make the experience at all what it should be. By the time you are through, you have a headache, and left with an awful experience. I will NEVER EVER refer anyone to this company. If I could, I would boycot their whole company and send them into a slum without a "diaper to piss in" (parden the joke). But that is what these blogs are for right? To pass the word on so others dont experience the nightmare that others had to? If you want to enjoy raising a family in SL, do not go through these people. You will really regret it. I dont regret the children added, but I regret the experience and who we went through. Good Luck out there!
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-14-2006 22:10
Jen, Sorry for your bad experience  If you have not already done so, check out this thread: /108/8f/72779/1.htmlThis issue seems to keep coming up repeatedly - perhaps what has been discussed there can give you some assistance.
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Introvert Petunia
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01-14-2006 22:15
Better still, this certainly sounds like a market loaded with - as the economists call it - pent-up demand.
Recommendation to all those who ask "how do I make money in SL?" Here is a need, fill it well and the L$ will beat a path to your door.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-14-2006 22:39
From: Introvert Petunia Better still, this certainly sounds like a market loaded with - as the economists call it - pent-up demand.
Recommendation to all those who ask "how do I make money in SL?" Here is a need, fill it well and the L$ will beat a path to your door. Yes, it is an obvious outcome of the sexball epidemic in SL.
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Jen Moonlight
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01-14-2006 23:01
Yes it does come up repeatedly, and out of respect of the game (not to mention TOS) I wont say names. However, I am sure that most of you know of whom I am speaking of. I have encountered MANY people in SL that have had this issue with this particular "company" on SL. You would think that something would have been done by now, but unfortunately nothing. Best I can do is make sure that the people out there know of what is happening, and choose another person to come through. For some people, the closest that they will ever come to having children, is in this game. Sad, but true. It should be a joyous occassion, and for most, its nothing short of a aggrivating experience. This game IS a second life for many, where they can experience certain things digitally, but yet still have the same emotions that they would outside the game, RL as people say. And once again, this is just one more of the events that has been ruined by a non sympathetic or empathetic "salesman", who knows nothing about a "good customer experience". I suggest he learns, because some day... the need for him will be non existant, and someone else will reep the benefits. Someone who knows the importance.
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Enabran Templar
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01-14-2006 23:16
From: Jen Moonlight I wont say names. However, I am sure that most of you know of whom I am speaking of. omg, are you speaking of me? Why are you speaking of me? I don't even make babies in SL. I make robots! 
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-14-2006 23:25
From: Enabran Templar omg, are you speaking of me? Why are you speaking of me? I don't even make babies in SL. I make robots!  Tell that to the string of avatars you have knocked up.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-14-2006 23:27
From: Jen Moonlight Yes it does come up repeatedly, and out of respect of the game (not to mention TOS) I wont say names. However, I am sure that most of you know of whom I am speaking of. I have encountered MANY people in SL that have had this issue with this particular "company" on SL. You would think that something would have been done by now, but unfortunately nothing. Best I can do is make sure that the people out there know of what is happening, and choose another person to come through. For some people, the closest that they will ever come to having children, is in this game. Sad, but true. It should be a joyous occassion, and for most, its nothing short of a aggrivating experience. This game IS a second life for many, where they can experience certain things digitally, but yet still have the same emotions that they would outside the game, RL as people say. And once again, this is just one more of the events that has been ruined by a non sympathetic or empathetic "salesman", who knows nothing about a "good customer experience". I suggest he learns, because some day... the need for him will be non existant, and someone else will reep the benefits. Someone who knows the importance. It is amazing to me how this person still has a business. I think yours is about the tenth thread I have seen on the same topic, and I have heard from countless people in SL about the same issue, as well as from friends who experienced the same problems you have. Introvert is right, someone needs to pick up the slack. Enabran, we need to make prim babies.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-14-2006 23:30
Are the babies always scripted objects or are there services have a tiny avatar playing the role of a baby?
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01-15-2006 01:25
From: Cristiano Midnight Enabran, we need to make prim babies. Someone needs to add that quote to their signature...
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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-15-2006 01:31
From: Cristiano Midnight Yes, it is an obvious outcome of the sexball epidemic in SL. And I've yet to see a condom machine anywhere.
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Torley Linden
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01-15-2006 01:39
From: Ordinal Malaprop And I've yet to see a condom machine anywhere. Psssst one place you can get them are on the east coast of Midnight City, at the Escort Services shack. Not too far from my dumpster. They're even Thai, and I happen to be partThai. Well for all I know that could be one big coincidence, but likely not......
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Introvert Petunia
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01-15-2006 05:48
From: Ordinal Malaprop And I've yet to see a condom machine anywhere. Could this be the actual cause of the viral plagues that sometimes infect the grid? Are mentors going to have to give lessons in safe sexballs?
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Introvert Petunia
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01-15-2006 05:52
From: someone Someone needs to add that quote to their signature... Done.
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Enabran Templar
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01-15-2006 08:16
From: Introvert Petunia Done. Except Cristiano actually spelled my name correctly. :| edit: haha, that was a quick fix. 
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Enabran Templar
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01-15-2006 08:17
From: Cristiano Midnight Introvert is right, someone needs to pick up the slack. Enabran, we need to make prim babies. Can they be shiny prim babies? With glowing microfusion power plants? And glowing eyes? See, I'm no good at this. 
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01-15-2006 08:19
From: Enabran Templar Except Cristiano actually spelled my name correctly. :| I beg to differ, I think you spelt it incorrectly Enebran. At least I didn't type "Christiano" again.
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-15-2006 10:36
I think this must be different from those babies which are avatars. I had a customer last week who was with a friend who was actually a BABY. And the baby looked more real in the face than we do. The baby talked and everything - it was a person with a baby avatar.
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Joy Honey
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01-15-2006 10:46
From: Cocoanut Koala I think this must be different from those babies which are avatars. I had a customer last week who was with a friend who was actually a BABY. And the baby looked more real in the face than we do. The baby talked and everything - it was a person with a baby avatar.
coco I think these are scripted prim babies... I will refrain from further comment 
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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-15-2006 10:49
Do they dance as well?
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Lecktor Hannibal
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01-15-2006 10:52
From: Ordinal Malaprop Do they dance as well? oooh good call!! Enabran snap to!
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-15-2006 10:55
A person in a baby avatar could get a job being a baby, with a series of avatars to represent growth.
The baby avatar would type "Wahhh Wahhh" and play crying sounds, put on frowning animations when it needs to be fed, etc.
Later it could use sitting up animations, rolling over animations, learning to stand animations, etc. Its chat could advance through babytalk to MaMa when seeing the mother and increase in articulateness and vocabulary use. Unlike a scripted object it could actually act like a child, eventually complaining the its sibling got more ice cream than it did, and someday just asking to borrow the car keys and have some gas and food money, then not coming home till the next day in the afternoon.
Then people would start asking for their money back.
Hee hee.
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-15-2006 12:33
From: Joy Honey I think these are scripted prim babies... I will refrain from further comment  Really? Well, it sure had me fooled! Big time. coco P.S. Lol, Suezanne!
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Jonquille Noir
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01-15-2006 12:39
The one you saw, Cocoa, was most likely one of DarkDharma Daquerre's Little Tyke Babies. Adorable baby avs you wear with a supplied animation overrider. They have sounds and come with a little rattle and diaper. http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?&p=buy&user_avatar_id=453
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-15-2006 13:15
Yes, looking on that page, it was the Little Tykes baby avatar with brown hair. Good to know I wasn't talking to an object! lol
coco
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