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Wildefire Walcott
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02-14-2006 12:50
This girl is often on between 11pm-2am PST and she's been having trouble finding any 'mature' sims populated with anyone who's actually awake. All the "trafficked" ones just have a bunch of zombies sitting in chairs collecting money (or in one case I discovered last night, doing unwholesome things to stuffed animals). These folks never respond when I kick, scratch, or whip them, so I guess they're either really busy or really jaded.

I've also found a number of clubs that have more active people, I guess, but the primary activities there seem to be dancing in circles and saying "VvVHowlzzzVvV" or some variant- which is fine I guess, but I don't see where the "mature" fits in.

Last night I even slipped on a pony costume and sneaked into a furry bar, but they caught me out right away and never let poor Wildefire join in any reindeer games. We did do some pretty cool synchronized dancing though, until I got kicked out for trying to offer free pony rides. Summa those fuzzy li'l guys can jump!

So, I ask- nay, I beseech you... where in Second Life does a girl go when all her friends are offline and she desires some... entertainment? Recommendations? Solicitations? Biohazard warnings?
Enabran Templar
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02-14-2006 13:40
Which girl?
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Eboni Khan
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02-14-2006 13:48
Maybe when DI goes away, and camping leaves, you will find live people, or the world will be mostly empty like it was before.

Unless it is the weekend you arent going to find many people up late partying in SL.
Gabe Lippmann
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02-14-2006 13:51
I never sleep, but I am not that entertaining either.
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Wildefire Walcott
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02-14-2006 17:16
From: Eboni Khan
Unless it is the weekend you arent going to find many people up late partying in SL.

Blast all those players with day jobs! [She types, in her cubicle, bleary-eyed from lack of sleep.]
Corvus Drake
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02-14-2006 17:24
I'm thinking the answer to "which girl" is herself, as it's the way Gorean women speak, and she's likely Gorean.

For those who don't know, Goreans follow the concepts outlined in a series of RL books. They usually RP that they are visiting from another planet, or that their home planet is the one they're playing in, or that they're a cult, or some other "keeps us separate from the rest" outline. In the end, they also are found politically as "The Free People of Gor".

Gorean women typically assume a slave role and refer to themselves in the third person as "girl", either using "this girl" or "Girl" instead of the pronoun "me".

Thank you Sociolotron for exposing me to that bit of oddity.

In answer to the OP, I've noticed the same thing. Lots of zombie-dancers and, worse, slumped over "away" people standing around. My lady Susi Soothsayer says she's been to an island filled with Goreans that has been claimed by them, maybe you should get directions from her?
Wildefire Walcott
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02-14-2006 18:00
From: Corvus Drake
I'm thinking the answer to "which girl" is herself, as it's the way Gorean women speak, and she's likely Gorean.

More like a Gorean wanna-be, but you're on track. I wanted to imply the general kind of activities I was looking for while still keeping this a safe-for-work thread. I chose to only word the first sentence that way because I figured people who knew would pick up on it and understand... but doing the whole post that way may have alienated others... or just made me sound very odd. Well okay, both. I also did it with full knowledge that I was setting myself up for smart-alecks, but hey I'm one too and I wouldn't have it any other way.

From: someone
Thank you Sociolotron for exposing me to that bit of oddity.

Sociolotron, eh? Now what sort of thing would that be I wonder?
/me puts a hand to her mouth and snickers knowingly.

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My lady Susi Soothsayer says she's been to an island filled with Goreans that has been claimed by them, maybe you should get directions from her?

Consider your lady IMed, my friend. I actually did find an interesting Gorean enclave last night with more moving greenies on the minimap than normal, but was never able to actually locate the players... I'm guessing they were in some hidden underground... uh, rumpus room. Plus I didn't approach the handful of players I DID see because I was a little unsure about my attire... my avatar looked terrible in the free Gorean silks I found, so I slipped on something more attractive, but likely too revealing. I'll be better prepared next time.
Feynt Mistral
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02-14-2006 20:19
Actually it depends on which furry areas you head to if you're offering free pony rides. Lusk for instance is a PG area, while the Forest is a mature area with the restriction that "what you do in private stays in private." In either local the conversations can be a bit tongue in cheek at times (yours or someone elses. o.o; ), but again anything a bit too involved is relegated to player owned homes (the Forest has house rental systems) or deep, dark recesses of the sims (if you know where to look. >} ).

If you're into unrestricted "access," a good portion of FurNation is open to all manner of weirdness. The furry fandom pretty much spans the whole of the fetish field, which is probably why it gets a bad view in the public's eye. I was talking with someone the other night who was complaining about Goreans screaming at them for entering their sim in a furry avatar. I believe her the rebuttle was, "Goreans just fear furs because most of us are into weirder stuff than they are, including slave/dom. roleplay." Not that I agree or disagree either way, I know next to nothing about Gorean "society."
Wildefire Walcott
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02-15-2006 09:42
From: Feynt Mistral
Actually it depends on which furry areas you head to if you're offering free pony rides.

Well, it was a little more involved than that. Apparently some people in the club looked up my profile and saw that I was a slave. (Folks never seem to notice the collar.) This offended them, and they told me so. I indignantly responded to one of them: "Okay, so you're a fricking anthropomorphic squirrel and you've got a problem with MY lifestyle?"

Things devolved pretty quickly and the pony rides were actually my gesture of good will. People seem to really like it when animals do things that a person would do, like when a bear rides a tricycle. So, I figured, perhaps the furries would like it if a person tried to behave like an animal and offered them a little prance around her pony pole?

As mentioned earlier this didn't go over well, so I packed up my pole and galloped out of there post-haste.
Burke Prefect
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02-15-2006 09:46
From: Enabran Templar
Which girl?


"This Girl..." usually means a Submissive speaking of herself in the third person.
Your subbage may vary.

Now. I don't find it offensive. But I'm a 'whatever works for you' kinda guy.
As for places to hang 'after hours', idunno.
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Noh Rinkitink
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02-15-2006 14:05
From: Wildefire Walcott
Apparently some people in the club looked up my profile and saw that I was a slave. (Folks never seem to notice the collar.)


To be fair, collars aren't necessarily viewed as an indication of being a slave, particularly among furries.

As for opinions regarding master/slave relationships, what consenting adults do amongst themselves is as much a concern to me as the price of tea in China, as long as they don't try to force it onto others.

(hint: I don't drink tea. :p )
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02-15-2006 14:13
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Ceera Murakami
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02-15-2006 14:29
How a Gorean slave girl might get responded to in a furry sim or among groups of furries also depends a lot on which furrs you encounter. As someone already said, furrs tend to run the full range of 'interests'.

Some furrs wear collars just like most Humans would wear necklaces, and they mean little more to them than that. For them, a collar is just a furry fashion statement. They would hardly have noticed your collar.

I am also aware of quite a few furrs who are into D/s play, and who wouldn't be at all bothered by the behaviors of a Gorean slave girl, in fursuit or looking Human. Some even use Gorean-designed collars and similar toys for their own 'Pets'. But in general, most of those furrs would prefer to play such games with other furrs, and not with someone who looks Human. Those who play the D/s game will usually at least talk civily to a Gorean slave girl, even if they aren't personally interested in her.

On the other paw, I know other furrs who immediately seek to sell their land if they realize one of their neighbors is a Gorean. You probably ran into some like that. People who fear Goreans or distain any form of 'slavery'.
Fenrir Reitveld
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02-15-2006 14:29
One should not idle in a dance club around Fenrir.

Me? I live on a Mature sim and I do stuff alllll night long, baby: Build.

To me, SL is more a tool of my creative expression than anything else, so I can't recommend good places to find action.

I just wanted to add that yes, if you see a doggy wandering around wearing a collar in a furry area, that does not mean the doggy is owned or even interested in such things.

Personally, I do know of a fairly large master/pet overlap with furries, so I really can't think of anywhere in particular you have had such a problem with it. Half the folks who hang out at a furry club I like to help out at (Rainbow Tiger) has a pet, or is a pet, or has some sort of setup like that going on.

Hooooowever, I've had to get on to folks at the Rainbow before about having the "ewwwww human" reaction. I think it's silly and immature.
Wildefire Walcott
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02-15-2006 14:56
From: Noh Rinkitink
To be fair, collars aren't necessarily viewed as an indication of being a slave, particularly among furries.

An excellent point. Well after hearing from you and some others here, I've decided it's time to return to that club on a mission of reconciliation and understanding- and this time I'll be prepared, not just mentally but physically. I'm leaving the pony-girl stuff in the dungeon and bringing out the big guns (of love and harmony). I'm dubbing the undertaking "Operation Horsey Love."

/me narrows her eyes and strokes her chin for a moment, eyebrow raised.

On second thought, perhaps this mission doesn't need a name.
Feynt Mistral
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02-15-2006 14:56
Another side to it, and probably the cause of the perceived furry/Gorean animosity is the fact that a lot of furs value freedom and see open slavery as an afront to their values. On SL you can be anything you want, and imagining yourself as a humanoid bat or wolf (or in my case cougar) is a means of expressing your inner self.

But some people view SL as a means of escape, so being a slave girl there is a role to play with all the "perks" of a dominating master and none of the downsides of them (unless you want them). I think that's the Gorean view of it anyways. The two views conflict however: One views it as a means of self expression, the other seems to view it as a means of escape from one's normal inhibitions. Viewing the other side of the disagreement through their side of the glass is insulting to the other group.
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02-15-2006 15:00
From: Wildefire Walcott
An excellent point. Well after hearing from you and some others here, I've decided it's time to return to that club on a mission of reconciliation and understanding- and this time I'll be prepared, not just mentally but physically. I'm leaving the pony-girl stuff in the dungeon and bringing out the big guns (of love and harmony). I'm dubbing the undertaking "Operation Horsey Love."

/me narrows her eyes and strokes her chin for a moment, eyebrow raised.

On second thought, perhaps this mission doesn't need a name.


I would love to witness this first hand.
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Wildefire Walcott
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02-15-2006 15:03
From: Fenrir Reitveld
Half the folks who hang out at a furry club I like to help out at (Rainbow Tiger) has a pet, or is a pet, or has some sort of setup like that going on

Funny enough, I just checked my screenshots and the club was indeed the Rainbow Tiger. The night might have gone more smoothly had you been there to mediate.

On another note, this girl would like to formally acknowledge Taco Rubio's That Girl joke. Bravo.
Corvus Drake
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02-15-2006 15:03
I have to say, I was either too drunk to notice or there weren't any horse attachments and skins at xCite!. That was a little shocking.

Then I realized that I felt the store was odd for not having one. That was much more shocking.

The straight jacket is on mail order.

Edit: Wilde, add me to your friends.
Fenrir Reitveld
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02-15-2006 15:17
From: Wildefire Walcott
Funny enough, I just checked my screenshots and the club was indeed the Rainbow Tiger. The night might have gone more smoothly had you been there to mediate.


Huh. That's odd, as the owner of the club has happy relationship with a pet -- both on SL and 1L. Exactly what do you mean kicked out? Was this something official (ie: one of the DJs or staff) or was it just you were made unwelcome?

I *am* a manager on the island, though the day to day operation of the club isn't my speciality. But I always am on the lookout for anything disharmous.
Wildefire Walcott
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02-15-2006 15:43
From: Fenrir Reitveld
Exactly what do you mean kicked out? Was this something official (ie: one of the DJs or staff) or was it just you were made unwelcome?

No I wasn't so much 'kicked out' as 'shut out.' Basically, out of the blue, one of the critters stopped dancing and started chanting "No slaves! No slaves!" and everyone else in the room did a "/me agrees with so-and-so."

I tried to reason with them, but I'm not one to overstay my welcome, either. No biggie though, really. Everything stayed in character on both sides, which is the most important thing to me. I made some mistakes and learned from them, and now I'm going back to set things straight, the only way that I know how...

/me dramatically trots off toward the horizon, awaiting nightfall...
Feynt Mistral
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02-15-2006 15:48
Hope you're doing that in a sim that doesn't have permanent daytime. >D
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Corvus Drake
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02-15-2006 15:49
Yeah, that's the problem with furries.

If you disagree with them, they often have 6 inch claws and 4 inch teeth, wheras you're just a sweaty, horny, squidgy thing that happens to go well with red wine and fried potatoes.
Feynt Mistral
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02-15-2006 16:02
From: Corvus Drake
Yeah, that's the problem with furries.

If you disagree with them, they often have 6 inch claws and 4 inch teeth, wheras you're just a sweaty, horny, squidgy thing that happens to go well with red wine and fried potatoes.


Mmm, leg of pony, fava beans, and a nice Chianti. ^.^

Then again some furs are understanding and accepting to the point of a disturbing open-mindedness. Their cries for harmony or reason usually go unheard though when others are out to snub a particular culture.
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02-15-2006 16:19
From: Wildefire Walcott
I discovered last night, doing unwholesome things to stuffed animals). These folks never respond when I kick, scratch, or whip them, so I guess they're either really busy or really jaded.


I so want that for my sig line :D roflmao
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